Fall 4K UHD (Unrated) (2022)

[emailking]

I pre-ordered it.

[itsadammatt]

Really wish this wasn’t best buy exclusive - hoping for a wider release for a huge fan of this film in Ireland - I would preorder this in a heartbeat

[Mobe1969]

Originally Posted by itsadammatt

Really wish this wasn’t best buy exclusive - hoping for a wider release for a huge fan of this film in Ireland - I would preorder this in a heartbeat

Yeah I'm sick of this moronic distribution idea. Let's limit our sales as much as we can.

[itsadammatt]

Originally Posted by Mobe1969

Yeah I'm sick of this moronic distribution idea. Let's limit our sales as much as we can.

Makes so little sense.

What especially sucks is how average the transfer is on the UK blu is - I bought the film on apple cause it was 2.99 and the picture is better on disbursal than the blu

[1924]

Does the unrated part have the more bloody elements that they mention they cut down in the commentary?

[itsadammatt]

Originally Posted by 1924

Does the unrated part have the more bloody elements that they mention they cut down in the commentary?

Pretty sure it’s just f-bombs - I watched the unrated and didn’t notice anything visually different

[bigrob]

didn't they use AI to alter the mouths as well to remove the f-bombs?

[Zimrann]

Originally Posted by bigrob

didn't they use AI to alter the mouths as well to remove the f-bombs?

Yes they did. Recall the director mentioning something about that in the short making of documentary on the UK Blu-ray.

And yes, as many have already previously mentioned, the banding on the Blu-ray is quite bad, especially during the night scenes when the red beacon is on.

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by Zimrann

And yes, as many have already previously mentioned, the banding on the Blu-ray is quite bad, especially during the night scenes when the red beacon is on.

There’s the bad banding of the U.S. disc and then there’s the absolute wretched offensery of the UK one. I’m counting on this 4K to deliver miracles.

[Zimrann]

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

There’s the bad banding of the U.S. disc and then there’s the absolute wretched offensery of the UK one. I’m counting on this 4K to deliver miracles.

Yes I was quite disappointed when viewing the UK blu-ray disc. I had to go back and check on Netflix to see how poor it was compared to even their HD stream!

Suffice to say the banding is terrible on both but you'd expect that from streaming services, not a pressed blu-ray disc! Can only think that the distributor just straight up used the file that the online digital platforms have.

Either way, we'll all be hoping for something better from the 4K disc.

[itsadammatt]

I bought the UK blu on day one and then picked it up on Apple movies for 2€ and the picture on Apple movies is crisper than the Blu-ray. Which sucks.

Have preordered this steel book on eBay

Originally Posted by Zimrann

Yes I was quite disappointed when viewing the UK blu-ray disc. I had to go back and check on Netflix to see how poor it was compared to even their HD stream!

Suffice to say the banding is terrible on both but you'd expect that from streaming services, not a pressed blu-ray disc! Can only think that the distributor just straight up used the file that the online digital platforms have.

Either way, we'll all be hoping for something better from the 4K disc.

[tyrok]

[itsadammatt]

I NEEEEED THIS

Is the banding gone in the night scenes ?

Originally Posted by tyrok

[fteixeira]

Dang. Clicked on this thread excitedly, but not attentively... hoping a new thread for "The Fall" 2006 and a 4K miraculously announced.

Anyways, this thread perked my interest in Fall 2022. May very well pick up this 4K.

[emailking]

Only a few more days! I'm excited and will let you know what I think next week.

[emailking]

Originally Posted by emailking

Only a few more days! I'm excited and will let you know what I think next week.

As promised, I am ready to tell you what I think. I watched this after work on Tuesday with [redacted].

This is what I wrote when I saw the movie.

Originally Posted by emailking

Great movie! A challenging watch too, well at least for me lol. A shame there's no 3D version or UHD. I think I'm giving this one a year before buying it ends up being one of these delayed UHDs.

[Show spoiler]One thing I didn't understand and may be a plot hole, is I think the message should have posted while the phone was falling. Certainly there would be coverage at like the height of an apartment building. Even falling at 100 mph that's enough time to send a text before the phone shatters. They didn't even need a shoe.

I have another plot hole now though, later.

The first think I would say is that if you have a fear of heights this is not the movie for you. There are many, many shots of very large heights meant to make you uncomfortable. When I saw it last year I had to take many breaks because it was making me so antsy and emotional. And I don't have a fear of heights. I did much better this run, only needed 2 breaks. It helps knowing exactly what's going to happen and when.

If you can stand it, it's a great movie and a great ride. It's also an incredible technical accomplishment, both practically and with CG. Most of what you see is real and filmed on a miniature tower, and the girls did all their own stunts so most of the movie looks very real.

[Show spoiler]On second view I obviously paid attention to Hunter after she is dead. And while this is a cool twist and all I actually don't think it could actually work like that. Becky is not insane. She doesn't hallucinate. yes I can buy that being hot, hungry, thirsty, and tired she might get confused. But to see her friend sitting next to her for over a day is really not believable. Maybe when you're half asleep you could think this briefly. By the way, the human brain cannot actually make a detailed hallucination like we see in the movies. It doesn't have the processing power to form a whole person like would see if they're standing right in front of you. So the whole time this is happening Hunter should have a dream like quality to Becky. Yet she has her bearings together well enough to form multiple clever rescue plans. I don't buy it. Works as a movie but I don't think anything like that could actually happen. Every else seems physically & biologically plausible, if that tower existed.

When I out in the UHD I got the region lock message. I could have blown a gasket. I keep the Oppo on Region B because it's a pain in the *** to change the region and that way I have a player ready to go for Region B stuff and UHD is 98% region free anyway. Often when I put a blu-ray in it (usually to watch specials) I don't know if it's going to work because the region locks don't really get posted. But the PS3 is all ready to go for blu-rays so when I put in a BD I'm always hoping it just plays but if it doesn't I sight and boot up the PS3. I never would have thought such a big movie released by a major label in the USA would be region locked with the java BS. I guess the closest equivalent is Greenland? But there's no NA release of that on UHD.

I spent 10 minutes trying to change the Region to A because I *really* did not want to use the PS5. It hs a game disc in it and the media remote for that is dead. After 10 minutes of messing with it I couldn't get the region changed and my [redacted] was on the way so I finally just put it in the PS5. This was a mistake. I couldn't figure out how to hit "play" on the PS5 remote. X button doesn't work (turns out it's circle, wtf? that's cancel) I googled and all I cold find was PS4 which is X, duh. I got it playing but only with opening the full controls menu every time I wanted to do something. Rewinding and pausing were a pain. Finally when the [redacted] came I decided to give one more try on the Oppo and the region changed first try (tested with SATS BD first which I know is A, because I think stop-resume may have been bringing me back to the wrong region screen). So then I was finally able to enjoy the rest of the movie on the Oppo.

Sorry for my first posts about the region. I was just so mad.

The picture is really good. It is unfortunately HDR-10 which was kind of disappointing since most stuff is Dolby Vision now. it still looked really good and great in 4K! I did not notice the banding that has been mentioned. Not on the tower reveal scene either. I watched that again today. I also don't see it on the BD. However, my screen has plenty of burn in after watching 6000 movies so yes it has "banding" but it always does. I just don't see any from the movie or it seems mild if it's there. Anyway, the picture is very detailed and I think is worth an upgrade. I used headphones for this and the sound was really good, particularly the sections with howling wind though those aren't that common.

Specials are the behind the scenes and a music video, and a new 15 minutes featurette which is only on the UHD. All specials are 1080P, including the one that is exclusive to the UHD and not on the BD, go figure. The BD just has the behind the scenes and music video. But the behind the scenes is better and more informative than the new featurette so while it's nice you're not missing too much if you've seen the other behind the scenes.

I also wanted to say the case is really nice and is how a steelbook is done right! I like steel books but hate how they just stick a floating piece of paper with it as the back cover and you have to somehow keep them together. This has a slipcover case with the steelbook and stays on it easily. It's also really cool how it's day on the out cover and night on the inner cover.

It's a great movie with a great 4K release so I would highly recommend this if you have a region A or region switchable player!

[Angry Virginian]

Originally Posted by emailking

The picture is really good. It is unfortunately HDR-10 which was kind of disappointing since most stuff is Dolby Vision now. it still looked really good and great in 4K! I did not notice the banding that has been mentioned.

I don't think that Dolby Vision will help much when the max brightness in the video is only 579 nits and the bitrate is already very high especially for what seems to be a digitally shot movie.

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
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MPEG-H HEVC Video       83,962 kbps         2160p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / Main 10 @ Level 5.1 @ High / 4:2:0 / 10 bits / HDR10 / Limited Range / BT.2020 / PQ / BT.2020 non-constant / Mastering display color primaries: Display P3 / Mastering display luminance: min: 0.0001 cd/m2, max: 1000.0000 cd/m2 / Maximum Content Light Level: 579 cd / m2 / Maximum Frame-Average Light Level: 129 cd/m2

[GasmaskAvenger]

just got my copy reserved for store pickup

[tehill]

Originally Posted by GasmaskAvenger

just got my copy reserved for store pickup

Me too. I have the Blu-ray, I wonder if the 4K is worth the upgrade

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by tehill

Me too. I have the Blu-ray, I wonder if the 4K is worth the upgrade

In terms of compression and the improvements that will have on the video quality, it simply has to be. As has been discussed as nauseum in this thread already, the U.S. and UK Blu-rays are arguably the most poorly compressed discs of the last year.