Prophecy 4K UHD (1979) (Kino Studio Classics)

[Monterey Jack]

Originally Posted by James Luckard

Ah, interesting, I guess I assumed it was a flop because it's considered a camp classic now.

Wikipedia is your friend.

[RalphoR]

I don't why this film takes so much. It's well written and acted. The majority of the f/x are very good. The cinematography is gorgeous. I can't wait to see this on 4k.

For those who've already received this, did you receive a shipping email prior to delivery or did it just show up?

[Driver78]

Orbit shipped my copy along with Iron Rose 4K on Friday. Two great additions to my 4K library

[SpacemanDoug]

Originally Posted by James Luckard

That's the great part about movies that were flops in their day, the negatives were rarely touched in the years that followed, unlike classic hits where the negatives often got damaged from overuse.

The flops that were by major studios at least. Indie movies were an entirely different issue.

[Dingus1539]

You can pre-order this at Barnes & Noble’s website now and get the 50% off price, $22.49.

[Dailyan]

Originally Posted by RalphoR

It's well written and acted.

As someone from Maine, some of it makes me laugh.

[RalphoR]

Originally Posted by Dailyan

As someone from Maine, some of it makes me laugh.

Can't say I'm from Maine so I'll take your word on that

[RalphoR]

Finally shipped. Hope it gets here before the weekend. I forgot where Kino ships from.

[Dingus1539]

Amazon is now matching the 50% off price, I expect Wayne’s World 2 could be next.

[jmorrow5]

Originally Posted by DaylightsEnd

Aaannnnnnd....preordered from Atomic Gimme dat! Sloppy encode and all. We takes what we gets. I doubt any other boutique will be touching this one.

...and therein lies the problem.

[DMRI2006]

Took a quick gander last night as my disc came in and honestly the DV doesn't do much on this. Looks pretty flat for the most part. I'd have to go back to the older master but gains are pretty minimal here in terms of HDR. Granted the earlier 1080p master was pretty good too as memory serves so maybe my expectations were set a notch too high.

[RalphoR]

Originally Posted by DMRI2006

Took a quick gander last night as my disc came in and honestly the DV doesn't do much on this. Looks pretty flat for the most part. I'd have to go back to the older master but gains are pretty minimal here in terms of HDR. Granted the earlier 1080p master was pretty good too as memory serves so maybe my expectations were set a notch too high.

Coming Monday but that first impression is disappointing. How about 4k detail over the bd? There has to be some gain there, hopefully.

[Ruined]

Wow my slipcover for this came in horrendous shape. All 4 corners smushed in, creases on the spines, and the front right half looks like a dog was scratching on it. Cant all possibly be due to shipping damage. I also got another Kino in that was recently released that had the scratching on the right half front. Must be yet another factory issue

[Blacknapkins]

Originally Posted by Ruined

Wow my slipcover for this came in horrendous shape. All 4 corners smushed in, creases on the spines, and the front right half looks like a dog was scratching on it. Cant all possibly be due to shipping damage. I also got another Kino in that was recently released that had the scratching on the right half front. Must be yet another factory issue

Where did you order it from?

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by Blacknapkins

Where did you order it from?

Prophecy from Target, the other one from B&N.

I think they use the same warehouse, but two completely different releases with weird scratch damage on exactly the same place of the slipcover under the undamaged shrinkwrap indicates a manufacturing error. The dents on the Target one were likely shipping damage.

[DaylightsEnd]

The prior Shout blu ray has a more contrasty look to it, with a bit of black crush or at least solidification creeping in on the darkest objects, the primaries are a bit oversaturated along with some attendant overly-hot pinkish skin tones, and the coarser grain is fairly exacerbated now and again in brighter scenes. From recollection it appeared to be a 2k scan of an ip. Par for the course, it looks pretty good and has that darker, more dupey film print look to a degree.

The new Kino 4k looks to have the usual expected uptick in fine detail, more relaxed color palette that’s not over-boosted, and looks more like what you’d expect from a scan of an ocn in terms of finer grain (what there is of it). It’s just a damned shame that Kino consistently serves up such rubbish encodes now, and there’s no denying the mushy grain, macroblocking, frozen or sluggish or pulsing grain at random, chroma noise, etc etc. It clearly does hamper depth and fine detail when the compression is so naff, but this is Kino doing Kino, and it’s highly unlikely to change on the uhd platform. As usual, the transfer is good and the color mastering is fine but the encode is daft as expected. It’s why Kino in its present mode of production will never tender a definitive uhd. It’s probably the best way to view the film now, but if any other boutique like Arrow grabbed this title for a uhd drop, and did up the compression properly, the Kino uhd would be an instant coaster (as usual).

[Dingus1539]

I got my email from Barnes & Noble, it’s ready for me to pick up, I couldn’t get there this evening, probably tomorrow. Looking forward to watching it. I only have this on DVD. Nice uptick in detail, color that isn’t over-boosted and it looks like a proper scan from the OCN. Sounds good to me.

[Bobbyjoe766]

Originally Posted by Gosszilla

Remember reading this article in the June 1979 issue of Newsweek in which someone from Paramount was questioning why "ALIEN" was doing so well in the cinema, but that their horror release "Prophecy" was doing so poorly. Even going so far as to say that their (mutated bear) monster was scarier! -lol
But I digress, I do love me some cheesy "Prophecy" mutant bear madness!

Lol.

These people simply have no clue of what is quality and what isn’t.

[ScareBearDan]

Anyone else have issues with their copy? Got mine and it froze and stuttered at 45 minutes in. Sent it back for a replacement and that one froze at the 36-minute mark.

[Rockercub]

I tried to watch it with headphones on and had to turn it off about 20 minutes in. It looked better than I was expecting, but the dialogue sounded really tinny. Both tracks. Anyone else hear anything like that?