Wayne's World 2 4K UHD (1993) (Kino Studio Classics)

[Spearmint701]

Great news!!! Was beginning to think this wasn't happening. been a long time since I've seen #2, but will be pre-ordering this one.

[meremortal]

Big step down from the original, imo, but still pretty fun.

[steve_dave]

Originally Posted by Kamdan

I still find this to be a fallacy. The song credits just acknowledge the title and the composer. If it was “the original,” there would be indication of the “courtesy” and “arrangement.”

OK. Cool.

[Cliff]

Originally Posted by HuggyBear73

But ..Fletch .. isn't good enough for 4K.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Universal had their own 4k release planned for the 40th anniversary this year. I’d bet money Kino doing Fletch Blu-ray only was less about Kino not wanting to do it in 4k and more about Universal wanting that release for themselves.

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by Kamdan

I need a full explanation on this “issue” during the Batman parody with the pole sliding. I’ve always heard a distinct guitar rendition of the Neal Hefti Batman theme from the VHS, TV airings, DVD and Blu-ray. It’s definitely not a Stairway to Heaven situation.

Originally Posted by steve_dave

The filmmakers secured the license to use the original for the theatrical release. Since home video at the time was not as collector friendly as now, they did not include non theatrical releases in the contract. So to keep the joke, they used a sound alike replacement. Unlike Stairway’s problem, no one went after them for this so it remains.

Originally Posted by Kamdan

I still find this to be a fallacy. The song credits just acknowledge the title and the composer. If it was “the original,” there would be indication of the “courtesy” and “arrangement.”

Is there any clips of the original scene anywhere online? I've tried repeatedly to find it but can't. And both my VHS and DVD of WW2 are edited.

[jstxanothrxstory]

Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

Is there any clips of the original scene anywhere online? I've tried repeatedly to find it but can't. And both my VHS and DVD of WW2 are edited.

If it was theatrical only, it'd probably only be there on scans of theatrical prints. I don't think any have surfaced.

[dubhousing]

Originally Posted by meremortal

Big step down from the original, imo, but still pretty fun.

I don't know if this has been discussed on these boards, but the story behind Wayne's World 2 is pretty wild. Mike Myers wrote a script that was, basically, a remake of Passport to Pimlico, with Wayne and Garth starting their own country and seceding from the U.S. The details are murky, but at some point, Paramount either couldn't get the rights to the original story, or, in one version of events, Myers didn't tell anyone at the studio that his script was a remake of a British comedy from 1948. With the sets being built, I suspect the latter is probably closer to the truth (why start production if they hadn't already secured the rights?).

Whatever happened, Paramount informed Myers well into pre-production that he better start all over with a new script, and finish it very quickly. A release date was already in place.

That story, and Penelope Spheeris not returning are two reasons why I think it's not as good as the first film.

[eastx]

Originally Posted by dubhousing

Whatever happened, Paramount informed Myers well into pre-production that he better start all over with a new script, and finish it very quickly. A release date was already in place.

That story, and Penelope Spheeris not returning are two reasons why I think it's not as good as the first film.

That makes a lot of sense. The weak script and lack of Spheeris' directing are definitely the film's weaknesses.

[meremortal]

Interesting trivia and I'd never delved into any backstory for the sequel. Even as a kid I thought there were some funny gags but it lacked the spontaneity and adventure of the first film. That film pretty much had it all with funny performances, popular soundtrack, a clue/mystery element and so forth. Spheeris understanding the vibe of the script probably considerably helped for sure. It was just such a cultural phenomenon of that era with the wall breaking, catchphrases and unorthodox filmmaking in general that made it seem so unique at the time. So I guess we got an uninspired story for the sequel that even Myers wasn't really into; his initial plan would probably be interesting.

[KcMsterpce]

IDK what to think of my preference from the first movie over the second one.
Wayne's World, to me, is a better movie as a whole. It is structured, and has a predictable progression from scene one to the conclusion. There are some great moments. It has a lot of charm and whimsy. It's a simple story told with a simple format that serves the intent of the product it is creating.
With that said I could see how it wouldn't connect as well with people seeing it now for the first time. It has a rather slow and methodical pace compared to "modern" sensibilities. But I've watched it dozens of times on VHS in the 90s, and it's a part of my life because of that.

Wayne's World 2 feels pretty scattershot in parts. It's not so cohesive, and Myers' sense of oddball humor shines through in a more raw sense compared to the more 'pedestrian' first movie.
As a story, WW2 is more a framework of story beats that must be met, interspersed with tons of random "Myerisms" that become more pronounced and prevalent in the Austin Powers series (and "So I Married an Axe Murderer" - which I love).
Mike Myers' fingerprint is heavily imprinted on WW2. It actually sets up a lot of the comedic platforms that come to fruition in the Austin Powers series. This, and So I Married an Axe Murderer are essentially the "test bed" for when he busted through to box office success. (Yes, I am also aware that these were also ripped off from many of his standard skits for SNL before the movies. It's an evolution, so to speak.)

I like Wayne's World because it's a fun, simple, affectionate comedy that should not ever be as good as it turned out. Most SNL movies are crap, we all know this. Wayne's World is one of the few outliers in that respect.
To have a sequel is interesting. But it always felt to me like it wasn't all that well constructed. Instead, it was kind of a movie made with a thin plot as an excuse for Myers and team to slot in a lot of funny ideas.
Many of those ideas are brilliant, though. From something as innocuous as Wayne asking why a couple guys are moving a window from nowhere to nowhere else as a means to poke fun at that "random chance of a window being moved during a car chase" in act 2 before it's executed in act 3 (Myers' 'Chekhov's Gun')... down to Wayne meeting Cassandra's father and having a weird subtitled kung fu mock-battle that was a precursor to his hilarious subtitle antics for Austin Powers 2 ("Care for some Shit[white text behind white background]take[haha] mushrooms?").
Or the T-1000 cameo, which is completely non-sequitorial and irrelevant.
Or the overly-extended final act that was a cheap knockoff of The Graduate, and those that don't know of the movie still being able to appreciate the silliness on its own, yet... KNOWING that it's a parody of that movie makes it even FUNNIER! From the car breaking down, to needing a better actor to play the reminiscing scene (and bagging a real banger of a cameo for that!!!); to him going to the wrong church, because the FIRST Presbyterian Church was across the street!
Then, if you saw The Graduate, that scene with Wayne banging on the window screaming "Casssannddraaa!!!" made it 10x more fun.
Extending that sequence to its limit was some of the genius of WW2. Playing out that joke as if they are the first to present the comedy, yet having it be FUNNIER if you were in on the sub-context of said joke.

Nevermind the glorious sub-contextual elements of casting Ralph Brown to be Danny, yet just being "Preston" with no direct reference to Danny.
Or the many small in-jokes to other shows and movies that are just funnier if you know the reference, but the comedy still stands on its own if you DON'T know it. Time and time again.

CONCLUSION: Wayne's World is a better movie as a whole. But Wayne's World 2, for me, is more fun and silly in ways that give me enough moments of charm and laughter that I can't discount it as a worthy sequel.

They kind of fill in each others' weaknesses, forming a cohesive duology worth looking into.

[Sky_Captain]

Wayne's World 2 is like Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls, for me.

If you went to see it expecting something similar to the first movie, you might have been disappointed.

They're both extremely scattershot in their approach and you might not have understood all the gags and references. But I'd argue that because of that, those movies still have legs in a way that few comedy sequels do.

As much I love Wayne's World, it's Del Preston that's forever imprinted on my brain.

"Perhaps this is why Keef cannot be killed by conventional weapons."

[Dragun]

Now I'm wondering if Paramount has licensed the Naked Gun sequels to Kino.

[crissrudd4554]

I love both films. Both easily quotable. The first is probably the e better overall film but the sequel still provides the entertainment I would like with these kind of comedies. I used to quote the “didn’t you find it a tribal unnecessary to see the crack in the Indians bottom??” bit a lot! Haha

[bongozoid]

Originally Posted by crissrudd4554

I love both films. Both easily quotable. The first is probably the e better overall film but the sequel still provides the entertainment I would like with these kind of comedies. I used to quote the “didn’t you find it a tribal unnecessary to see the crack in the Indians bottom??” bit a lot! Haha

"tribal"??
You've been quoting it incorrectly all this time and didn't notice?

[crissrudd4554]

Originally Posted by bongozoid

"tribal"??
You've been quoting it incorrectly all this time and didn't notice?

Typo. “Trifle”.

[lilboyblu]

Preorder up at Kino. They've raised their prices again, too.

https://kinolorber.com/product/wayne-s-world-2-4kuhd

[FrequentNewt45]

I always found it a shame that this never had its trailer included on DVD or Blu-ray when the first movie always did. I expected Kino would spring for it, but good on them for mining a further teaser trailer (presumably the THX one) and 8 TV spots out of Paramount. Too bad Wayne's World 1 doesn't get this treatment now, or a remastered Blu-ray in general.

[GaragePoet]

Wayne's World 2 has always been one of my favorite horror movies

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[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by jstxanothrxstory

If it was theatrical only, it'd probably only be there on scans of theatrical prints. I don't think any have surfaced.

There's not a scan of either WW1 or WW2 anywhere online.

My earliest tape of WW1 is either the 22nd or 24th week of 1993, and is edited. (It has the sticker on the side of the box, and nothing actually printed on the box, which gives credence to the still unproven theory of uncut tapes in circulation.)

WW2, I don't have the tape on hand, but it definitely has the disclaimer printed on the box.

And then of course the DVDs are edited.

Where in WW2 was the Batman scene? H:MM:SS or MM:SS would be nice, as I struggled to find the scene. I know it was replaced with a "generic sound-alike", but it was so generic that I failed to find it on my DVD.

[gooey]