I'm 99% sold on Plasma...

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by Midwest

Pick up a Pioneer Manufactured plasma before they are gone.

Hands down the best tv's on the market. Probably not the most "bang for the buck" but picture quality wise, no contest.

The panasonic/800 has it beat

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Sonny

The panasonic/800 has it beat

When did you pick up an Elite 60" Kuro?

[btf1980]

Originally Posted by Sonny

The panasonic/800 has it beat

I guess it's all opinions, and the 800 series are mighty fine sets from Panny, but I disagree that it beats the current crop of Kuros.

[werewuf]

Originally Posted by Sonny

The panasonic/800 has it beat

Not proven until the reviews arrive, and even if the 800's are better than the current Pio's, it will only be for a minute until the new generation of Kuro's arrive in June.

[BorrowedTime]

Originally Posted by DezNutz

Time here are some prices I have found for these systems. Again what is listed is full retail;

http://www.bigpicturebigsound.com/pr...-tv-1459.shtml

The price difference between your 42PZ80 (1600) and 42PZ85 (1800) appears to be 200 dollars. If interested the 42PZ800 is listed at 2300, not sure if it is worth that or 500 more than the 85.. there are specs on that page as well.

Thanks Dez,

All the retailers in my area are only carrying the 80 and 800 series, and the pricing here is higher. The 42PZ80 is $1799 and the 42PZ800 is 2499. I checked with a couple of specialty retailers, and they don't even have a listing for the 85 and 850 series. So far, the only retailer in Canada that is getting the 85 seems to be Future Shop, and it appears only in the 50" size... weird.

@ dobyblue

when I clicked on Dez's link, I saw the the 85 series were listed as native 24p. I thought you mentioned in the 24p stickied thread that only the 800s were native 24p. If the 85s are, maybe I'll bite the bullet and import that one instead. 30000:1 cr AND native 24p, just like the 800 series, but cheaper? Yes, please. Plus I'm liking the US pricing on these products, and with the dollar at or near par....

[MaleManGuy]

Originally Posted by BorrowedTime

Thanks Dez,

All the retailers in my area are only carrying the 80 and 800 series, and the pricing here is higher. The 42PZ80 is $1799 and the 42PZ800 is 2499. I checked with a couple of specialty retailers, and they don't even have a listing for the 85 and 850 series. So far, the only retailer in Canada that is getting the 85 seems to be Future Shop, and it appears only in the 50" size... weird.

@ dobyblue

when I clicked on Dez's link, I saw the the 85 series were listed as native 24p. I thought you mentioned in the 24p stickied thread that only the 800s were native 24p. If the 85s are, maybe I'll bite the bullet and import that one instead. 30000:1 cr AND native 24p, just like the 800 series, but cheaper? Yes, please. Plus I'm liking the US pricing on these products, and with the dollar at or near par....

Both TV's will do 24p. The 800 series will do 2:2 pulldown while the crappier TV 3:2. The 800 and 850 will do a better job of 24fps.

Jeff

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by dobyblue

When did you pick up an Elite 60" Kuro?

I've had it for a few months now, got it at magnolia for 6K I also bought a 52" XBR5 Thie pioneer is the best HDTV on market "right now", but I know the panasonic/800 series will out do it, just wait

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by btf1980

I guess it's all opinions, and the 800 series are mighty fine sets from Panny, but I disagree that it beats the current crop of Kuros.

OK...

[Sonny]

Originally Posted by werewuf

Not proven until the reviews arrive, and even if the 800's are better than the current Pio's, it will only be for a minute until the new generation of Kuro's arrive in June.

nah

[ManUtd]

Originally Posted by Midwest

Pick up a Pioneer Manufactured plasma before they are gone.

Hands down the best tv's on the market. Probably not the most "bang for the buck" but picture quality wise, no contest.

Most definitely not the best bang for the buck, but normally you gotta pay to get the best.

[ixlegitballinxl]

seems those models are giving plasma's a good rep.... going to be a toss up later on in the year when i upgrade my bedroom tv.. new xbr or plasma :X

[Scooby Blu]

Originally Posted by Art Vandelay

Most definitely not the best bang for the buck, but normally you gotta pay to get the best.

Pay ???? Yes, the more you spend the more you get; Sad fact , but True !

[BorrowedTime]

Oh, hey now...

ALL of the PZ85 series are now available at Future Shop, according to their website. Still $200 above the US pricing, but at least I now know it's available here. Do the 85's have Pixel Shift? I can't find a complete spec on them, or most websites don't mention whether it has it or not, either way.

EDIT: Nevermind, I found it. The PZ85's do have Pixel Shift.

[X400]

just so you know, Futureshop has some great deals going on right now
40" 1080p Sony for $1300 or $999 for a 1080i etc, etc great deals for "canada" anyway

[musicman1999]

We in Canada are getting screwed on prices, the exchange rate today was almost exactly equal, prices should follow.


bill

[richteer]

Originally Posted by musicman1999

We in Canada are getting screwed on prices, the exchange rate today was almost exactly equal, prices should follow.


bill

Agreed. I think the retailers don't think we know that...

[BorrowedTime]

Originally Posted by MaleManGuy

I have seen the 50PZ85 at futureshop :-) for $2999 or so. I am sure you can talk them down from that

Jeff

Do Future Shop Home Theater sales people work on commission, or partial commission? If they do, then talking them down is a very real possibility. Especially if Future shop is charging $200 above the MSRP.

[X400]

you can haggle at futureshop do it all the time

[rybread80]

LCD vs Plasma??

I believe Plasma has definitely come along way... but I still feel LCD has it's advantages. Lifespan for one... I've read articles upon articles indicating that Plasma TVs are dying way too soon.

Can anyone comment on this? Am I just reading tabloid-like garbage?

[yankeedawg21]

tabloid garbage