Universal - No new HD DVD titles announced at CES 2007

[Chris Beveridge]

Also, anyone see the post in the Insiders thread asking what MS and Toshiba need to do to call it quits on the political side? Not a BD person to be sure...

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by Chris Beveridge

Also, anyone see the post in the Insiders thread asking what MS and Toshiba need to do to call it quits on the political side? Not a BD person to be sure...

I saw that. Wow. Just Wow. It's amazing what is going on over there. What really going to be interesting is how this is spun by certain people when they get back from CES.

[JBlacklow]

On a somewhat unrelated note (well, it was in a Universal thread), here's what a chip manufacturer rep had to say about Chinese Blu-ray players in response to a Microsoft rep:

Originally Posted by kjack

I'll save you the time. A few companies in BDA want to grow the pie size as quickly as possible.

The plot thickens?

[hyperdine]

Originally Posted by Esox50

I saw that. Wow. Just Wow. It's amazing what is going on over there. What really going to be interesting is how this is spun by certain people when they get back from CES.

It's funny what happens when people start to think for themselves, rather than be herded by the shepherd! I'm sure there will be lots of scolding going on when the boss returns... "Bad sheep! Bad sheep! Everything's O.K. daddy's here now"

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Deane Johnson

There's at least one HD-DVD poster over there convinced that the water sweeping over the deck of the Titanic is just being spilled from the overflowing swimming pool.

I honestly have gotten to the point where delusional stupidity like that also earns contempt.

[Dave Mack]

All I know is I almost my head chewed off last nite in there by the zealots and had 2 of my threads in the BD forum removed and warned of being suspended by the mods. No sympathy for most from me...
Some of them were downright nasty.

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by Dave Mack

Some of them were downright nasty.

What's interesting is to see some of them turning on each other now.

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by hyperdine

It's funny what happens when people start to think for themselves, rather than be herded by the shepherd! I'm sure there will be lots of scolding going on when the boss returns... "Bad sheep! Bad sheep! Everything's O.K. daddy's here now"

Now that IS funny. I hear you on the thinking for yourself comment. I think I've said it before, but the average age over there in the HD section must be about what, 19-25 or so. Thier complete lack of knowledge of how companies make decisions has been quite apparent to many of us for a while now.

One of my favorite people to laugh at is Plazman. He's so off the wall I literally spat my coffee out laughing one late-morning.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by Esox50

Now that IS funny. I hear you on the thinking for yourself comment. I think I've said it before, but the average age over there in the HD section must be about what, 19-25 or so. Thier complete lack of knowledge of how companies make decisions has been quite apparent to many of us for a while now.

One of my favorite people to laugh at is Plazman. He's so off the wall I literally spat my coffee out laughing one late-morning.

Hey, I am only 19, granted I have a bit more business sense than most of that lot, monopolies are efficient, good for customer adoption, etc. I would prefer if you didn't lump me in with them.

[JBlacklow]

This almost sounds like an afterschool special:

I'm changing teams...can someone help me?

[Spankey]

Originally Posted by Deane Johnson

You need to read his entire post. It's almost sad. He has been one of the most vocal HD-DVD promoters on any of the forums. He had a giant HD-DVD in his sig. It seems to be gone.

I think it's time to toss some of these guys some sympathy and encourage them to realize the world will look good again once they go Blu-ray.

I still believe that is Scott Aruti. You should remember him Deane. I feel sympathy for some but not most. The people who bought into HD-DVD spread lies, turned a once decent HT board into a place that allowed itself to be defined by corporate politics, while censoring opposing opinions. I will name names. Mark Rubin. When not closing threads, he was threatening and suspending long time members who contributed with valuable information.

Amir. Nothing but a corporate drone. I defended M$ in the past but other than supporting their Windows products, I will hesitantly buy from them again.

AVS stinks, and those that turned it into the cesspool it is now can swim in their own filth.

[blitz6speed]

I just cannot believe how amazing CES has turned out. Its been so friggin awesome. TSD and the rest looking like FOOLS, people who are HD fans not following like sheep and opening their eyes to the true format for the next 10+ years, and just a overall "We told ya so" no matter where you turn. If i was at CES, i'd gather up paidgeek, panton-man and talkstr8 and take them out to dinner and then some MonteChristo habanas to celebrate this amazing event that has happened!

[JBlacklow]

It looks like tsd2005 hasn't posted since yesterday. Either he's silent, or he got smacked down by the mods for outright lying about his info and his insider credentials. It's happened before, and I believe the board owners are now asking for proof from employers for insiders.

[dialog_gvf]

Yeah. The first thing tsd2005 posts in response to the TL51 announcement, is that it will be out by mid-year, and his contacts will be giving him the release dates (presumably Disney) soon.

Clearly zero knowledge. Just a spin to deflect the total disaster of that that day with yet another "Disney next week" hope infusion. And then Amir takes the legs out by commenting within hours that it couldn't even be in the spec until late 2007. And then a slide from CES confirms it.

Gary

[Deane Johnson]

Originally Posted by sltmag

I still believe that is Scott Aruti. You should remember him Deane. I feel sympathy for some but not most. The people who bought into HD-DVD spread lies, turned a once decent HT board into a place that allowed itself to be defined by corporate politics, while censoring opposing opinions. I will name names. Mark Rubin. When not closing threads, he was threatening and suspending long time members who contributed with valuable information.

Amir. Nothing but a corporate drone. I defended M$ in the past but other than supporting their Windows products, I will hesitantly buy from them again.

AVS stinks, and those that turned it into the cesspool it is now can swim in their own filth.

I was referring to a AaronSCH, who had a huge HD-VD logo in his sig which seems to be gone.

[dobyblue]

Originally Posted by Maxpower1987

Check this one out, a few people, murch, are actually trying to spin this as positive.

Originally Posted by hmurchison

Tons of HD is great but so profit of a man to gain the world yet lose his own soul. I have a philosophical difference that precludes me from embracing Blu-ray at this time and I'm ok with that.

Ha ha - this really gave me a good laugh this morning.

I think what he really means is that he's very embarrassed that the exodus of Fox, Lionsgate and Disney from the Blu-ray camp to be neutral supporters that he's been touting for the last several months didn't happen.

[Anton]

The only thing that interests me in the lack of announcements from Universal, is the reaction of those that support HD-DVD. Call them Fan-Boys or whatever you like, but realise they are the consumers of that product. If they are as upset as it seems, then that is the true blow to HD-DVD.

Personally I just want this 'War' to finish ASAP, its not good for consumers and I remember being happy when Toshiba and Sony were in talks before the standards were released. Unfortunately the talks bore no fruit, and a single standard didnt happen... we (the consumers) are the ones that have to pay.

The PS2 helped DVD sales in a big way (especially in Japan), and it seems the PS3 has done wonders for Blu-Ray. If anyone was/is of the opinion that the PS3 would not have an effect on BD sales then I'm not sure what planet they are from. I am a gamer/AV enthusiast and I'm sure I'm not the only one, those two 'hobbies' pretty much go hand in hand for the most part.

[Deane Johnson]

There's a Michael Reuben who is an administrator over at Home Theater Forum who just closed a Blu-Ray thread. I wonder if that's the same person closing Blu-ray threads at AVS.

[JBlacklow]

Awww...

I'm taking my ball and going home

Quick, call the Waaahmbulance!

[JTK]

Originally Posted by Deane Johnson

There's a Michael Reuben who is an administrator over at Home Theater Forum who just closed a Blu-Ray thread. I wonder if that's the same person closing Blu-ray threads at AVS.

Michael and Mark? I doubt it, but they may as well be the same person at that rate. *shrugs*


This Universal standing down is the biggest news out of CES. There's no exclusive incentive whatsoever to flush any more money down the toilet on HD-DVD. Any hardware manufacterer looking to make money can't miss this obvious kiss of death, which is why I'm confident that we'll never see anything past a few more Toshiba clunkers, at most, the LG dual, and that's it.

There's no money to be made with HD-DVD. That's the bottom line.