BD/DVD combo disc

[tulegit]

Originally Posted by theknub

tulegit, you are barking up the wrong tree with JTK. believe me

ok, ur opinion is that we should all want combos and that we're in the minority here. how is that possible? the people here are the main people buying discs. shouldn't we be the ones dictating what we want? after all, we are the consumer. most everyone here agrees that combos are a terrible product. you are pretty much the only one saying otherwise and are trying to convince us of that.

as for this comment, and i quote:






ok, ur right. u didn't say it there. u did see that a reference title has little to no difference. my bad.

Yes, I don't like the quality of X3. That's my opinion. But I did say I like Crank. So to say that I can't see a difference between DVD and BD is wrong.

[Heresy]

This is so tired; your whole argument for combos is that they benefit the few at the expense of the many. Excuse us all for not willingly stepping forward for a bloodletting.

[Deciazulado]

Pointless bickering and fighting including personal attacks is not part of this forum. Thread reopened, but be civil. ]:E

[BriS2K]

Agreed.

The whole idea of combo discs is completely pointless and does nothing but drive up the cost of the disc...as well as losing the art/label on one side making it look very cheap (as are all DVD discs with dual sides).

[Chad Varnadore]

Originally Posted by tulegit

Yes, I don't like the quality of X3. That's my opinion. But I did say I like Crank. So to say that I can't see a difference between DVD and BD is wrong.

If you're saying you can' t tell a difference in quality between DVD and BD with X3, something is still seriously wrong. If you're saying you can't bring yourself to appreciate film grain or some other aspect of the DPs intented look for X3, that's different. But, if your system is capable of maximizing the steep performance benefits of BD, comparing to the DVD of the same release, you should be able to tell a difference in all cases. Bar none. With X3 it's pretty dramatic. That's a stellar disc IMO. Some will have a hard time seeing any improvement with some discs, like 5th Element. But, even in that example its there. It's just not nearly as dramatic as it should have been - more along the lines of a superbit tweak. But, image definition in X3 is so far beyond the very best that DVD can, it's not subtle at all.

[simpspin]

The only combo I'd like is a BD/CD combo: Movie on one side and Soundtrack on the other, but only if it is offered as a 'bonus' and only if it isn't any more expensive than a regular BD.

[Iceman_II]

<sigh>

Deci, I am affraid that this thread can not truely be civil, because there are certain members who by their very nature are combative and bring ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to the comunity, other than a knack for sounding a lot like a troll when they start threads which they KNOW will be combative.... The only thing you can do is add them to your ignore list, unfortunately, this honor goes to a gentleman that started a recent thread, and went on like a fanbois about how BD was often no better than SD. And then came here to chat up another favorite fanboi topic.

Welcome to my ignore list, you know who you are.

<sigh>

[Jack Torrance]

I for one am offended by even the idea of a bd/dvd combo.

1) It drives up the cost of bd titles

2) It continues to prop up and support the old format and not encouraging people to evolve beyond it

3) It will help fund the fight AGAINST bd, because a royalty on every combo disc will be paid to one of the inventors of the dvd format, Toshiba, who are one of the driving forces behind HD-DVD.

[HiNRG]

I was looking through the Blu-ray News and found this:

Dec 24, 2004 - JVC Develops Blu-ray/DVD Combo Disc Technology

Since that time I haven't really heard anything more about it until this thread popped up.

A combo disc wouldn't hurt the consumer if the regular, lower priced Blu-ray discs were still made for those who don't want combos. I agree with Iceman_II, though, that I don't want Toshiba to get royalties from the DVD aspect of the combo. That's why I think there are HD-DVD/DVD combo discs, because the royalties are going to the same place.

[Avalanche™]

Originally Posted by Heresy

So everyone with a Blu-ray player has to spend more money because your friend cannot afford a PS3 right now? The studios produce Blu-Ray discs for customers that own Blu-ray players, not for customers that may, sometime in the future, buy one.

There is nothing good in combo discs for 95%+ of the people who would be forced to buy them if that was all that was offered and there wouldn't be enough demand for the companies to produce both single versions and combos.

Just because your friend can't afford a player right now does not justify making everyone that can (and who are the customers that are driving the format) pay more.

Get it?

take it easy turbo

the combo format i saw were the same price and regular HD DVD($34.99) so i never knew there is a price hike in the combo version

[Ascended_Saiyan]

Originally Posted by HiNRG

I was looking through the Blu-ray News and found this:

Dec 24, 2004 - JVC Develops Blu-ray/DVD Combo Disc Technology

Since that time I haven't really heard anything more about it until this thread popped up.

A combo disc wouldn't hurt the consumer if the regular, lower priced Blu-ray discs were still made for those who don't want combos. I agree with Iceman_II, though, that I don't want Toshiba to get royalties from the DVD aspect of the combo. That's why I think there are HD-DVD/DVD combo discs, because the royalties are going to the same place.

I would just like to add that if the BDA did decide to do combo disc for Blu-ray (I hope not), both versions of the film would be on one side, not two. In other words, this would not be a "flipper".

It seems like people are thinking there would be a Blu-ray version side and a DVD side.

[amtctt]

don't know if anyone has already said this, but i don't want a combo disc because i think that will just delay advances. I like the idea of pushing the market forward and i think if a commitment to blu-ray alone is made then we can keep moving forward. Holding on to DVD will slow things up. If the demand for blu-ray alone goes up, the consumer will be rewarded by prices coming down, because more companies will have to compete to satisfy us. That's why i'm glad the Feds stepped in with a date for analog tv to go away, even though there is still a chance this might not happen when planned, it's going to push things forward. I think it's about 10 years behind, but at least we are finally there with that. Now it's a matter of time for bluray. let's keep moving forward.

[HDTV1080P]

Yes it is technically possible to make a BLU-RAY/DVD combo disc on the same side. What would be scary is a disc that had HD-DVD on one side and BLU-RAY and DVD on the other side. All 3 formats could be on one disc and the retail stores would be happy to stock one disc for all 3 formats. A 3 format disc would be pricey to make if technically even possible.
If I were to purchase a combo disc that contained both a BLU-RAY layer and a DVD layer I would only watch the HDTV BLU-RAY layer. Personally I do not like combo discs but if the mainstream consumer wants combo discs then the BLU-RAY camp can always have them produced.
What I plan on doing is having one highend BLU-RAY player for the main room. Then when the price of BLU-RAY players reaches the $300-$400 range I will upgrade everyone of my DVD players and my parents DVD players to BLU-RAY. ** The best solution is for everyone to replace their DVD player’s they own with a BLU-RAY player. ** Of course some people are going to wait until BLU-RAY players are $100-$300 a piece before upgrading all their DVD players. A BLU-RAY player can be used on an old 480I TV/Monitor with composite inputs. The advantage of upgrading every DVD player in ones house to BLU-RAY is that all new releases can be purchased in the BLU-RAY format without having the rest of the family in the house get upset since they are not able to watch the movie in their room.