Texas school district to let teachers carry guns

[thelaserdisc2000]

I am a teacher in training, and I support the teachers holding guns. Naturally it would only serve the same purpose of a condom (good if you have it, shitty if you don't), the teachers would not be allowed to draw it with out prior provocation.

I get many people saying "what if a student finds the gun", well that wont happen if the teacher knows he/she is to wear the gun, not keep it in the desk.

[ThePhantomOak]

Originally Posted by CobraComander

I hope they get some kind of weapon training.

They dont just give them out to teachers.

The requirements are not to be a teacher, it is just that a TRAINED teacher can now carry, when before they could not.

Not every teacher will quallify, and not every teacher who does will carry.

[ThePhantomOak]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

My comment had nothing to do with teachers. Problems are always with those that subtley to blatanty break laws. It's blindly obvious that law abiders won't be a problem.

But, I will point out the issue is not teachers but those individuals that are driving such an exteme reaction.

A very large percentage of policemen shot are shot with their own gun. These are professional peace officers, selected and trained for an ability to physically control criminals, defend themselves, and who have lots of weapons training.

Gary

Care to give a source?

[Rob71]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

My comment had nothing to do with teachers. Problems are always with those that subtley to blatanty break laws. It's blindly obvious that law abiders won't be a problem.

But, I will point out the issue is not teachers but those individuals that are driving such an exteme reaction.

A very large percentage of policemen shot are shot with their own gun. These are professional peace officers, selected and trained for an ability to physically control criminals, defend themselves, and who have lots of weapons training.

Gary

I've not heard that stat before. Regardless, this is two different situations. Police put themselves in dangerous situations to try and apprehend criminals. They are usually coming after someone who a) knows they are coming and b) in a lot of situations know the surrounding better than the police. Teachers on the other hand aren't going to go hunting the gunman. They more than likely will lock their door and "guard" their students until the police can subdue him. Now if I'm a gunman am I going to basically play Russian Roulette kicking in doors, hoping there's not a teacher on the other side with a gun pointed at chest level.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by ThePhantomOak

Care to give a source?

It's happened, but when you compare the number of total officers with the number of officers shot with their gun, the number is very small.

[Rob71]

Originally Posted by GSX600F

Amercians and their guns, pure sadness, i can't think of any other country who......... end of my comment.

Here we have a vid of an american and his personality and his opinion about guns -> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F43mN5YilXg

Thing is, Borat is acting since he's an actor, but that american gun guy is for real, i think a person can't get any weaker and lower like this person in this video.

If there's one thing I've learned about the internet, it's to pretty much ignore any post that starts with this.

[GaS]

Originally Posted by GSX600F

Oh yeah, man thx we (here in europe) have news, i saw a 11 year old girl who got shot in by an american guy because that girl stepped on his property, LOL serious? He apologized to the girl but you know what? That girl is in wheelchair for the rest of her life., gotta love the americans with their behavior with guns......

Link please?

[arush5268d]

Originally Posted by GSX600F

Amercians and their guns, pure sadness, i can't think of any other country who......... end of my comment.

Here we have a vid of an american and his personality and his opinion about guns -> http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=F43mN5YilXg

Thing is, Borat is acting since he's an actor, but that american gun guy is for real, i think a person can't get any weaker and lower like this person in this video.

How about you learn to spell...before you start trash talking?

[My_Two_Cents]

Originally Posted by GSX600F

Oh yeah, man thx we (here in europe) have news, i saw a 11 year old girl who got shot in by an american guy because that girl stepped on his property, LOL serious? He apologized to the girl but you know what? That girl is in wheelchair for the rest of her life., gotta love the americans with their behavior with guns......

And for every one of these stories, there are hundreds of others where someone's life was saved because they or some other law-abiding citizen had a gun with them. Sorry, but these incidents, though unfortunate and tragic, are no arguments for gun control. I have a CCDW license, and I feel much safer knowing I have the ability (and training) to protect myself and my family if need be.

I did not realize this until recently, which is one of the reasons I decided to get a license, but it has been decided in court that the police do NOT have a right/duty to protect individual citizens. This came down from a suit filed (in DC, I believe) where a woman was repeatedly raped in her home and I think her friend killed, while the police took hours to respond to the call. If you must see a link, I believe I can find it on the NRA website.

I really feel for those folks in Europe and elsewhere where the bleeding-hearts would rather all of the criminals have guns and the general population be unarmed. I defy anyone to show me valid proof where crime has actually gone down once the population was disarmed. It certainly has not been the case in any town/city/state in the US where unconstitutional gun bans/laws have been enacted.

Oh, and you can thank an American and his gun for the fact that all of Europe is not speaking German right now.

[arush5268d]

Originally Posted by Ricshoe

Oh, and you can thank an American and his gun for the fact that all of Europe is not speaking German right now.

+1,000,000,000

The French loooooove to forget that.....

......until the Germans come to visit again and then all of a sudden the U.S. is everyone's friend.

[jw]

Originally Posted by arush5268d

How about you learn to spell...before you start trash talking?

Not everyone that uses this site has English as a first language......plus I can spell but cant type a lick, so when I try and type fast it starts looking like I cant spell

Also, for someone who downed the thread on post #2, your sure have been a regular poster here

This thread really should be closed, and fast, since this will quickly turn into a heated political battle.

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by iNCREDiPiNOY

That's not cool...

Why not? Makes sense to me.

The scary thing, is that in Texas you could have an open beer while driving, as long as you were below the legal limit.... that was up until 5 years ago or something....

THAT is just crazy!

[Bigdog]

This law will be changed the first time a teacher shoots a kid by mistake and the state gets sued for millions of dollars. I think this is going a little to extreme, how about we let teachers dissaplin a kid first before we allow fire arms into schools. What happens if a kid somehow gets control of said guns and kills 10 or so people with it?

I trust a trained police officer to handle one in a situation, i dont think trusting teachers who might of put 3 hours into training at a shooting range is enough to let these people carry in their classrooms.

[arush5268d]

Originally Posted by jwbbud

Not everyone that uses this site has English as a first language......plus I can spell but cant type a lick, so when I try and type fast it starts looking like I cant spell

Also, for someone who downed the thread on post #2, your sure have been a regular poster here

Well.... this is Blu-ray.com which means that it is a U.S. website, right? I understand that English isn't everyones first language here - if you want you can check out my post history you'll see that I've always been very accepting of that but not tolerant of Americans that don't even know our own language.

And yes, I was the 2nd poster and I felt that this could be a pretty volatile thread that could get way out of hand. I never said that I don't have firm beliefs on this topic.

[arush5268d]

Originally Posted by Bigdog

This law will be changed the first time a teacher shoots a kid by mistake and the state gets sued for millions of dollars. I think this is going a little to extreme, how about we let teachers dissaplin a kid first before we allow fire arms into schools. What happens if a kid somehow gets control of said guns and kills 10 or so people with it?

I trust a trained police officer to handle one in a situation, i dont think trusting teachers who might of put 3 hours into training at a shooting range is enough to let these people carry in their classrooms.

Oh no! A kid could get the gun from a teacher and shoot someone??? Riiiiiiiiiight. In case you didn't notice....there's been a lot of school shootings lately. Not ONE of them involved a weapon obtained from a staff member. All the weapons were brought from home.

Hmmm...what else. Oh yes...it is NOT 3 hours at a shooting range in order to get a license to carry a concealed firearm in Texas. It's a minimum 10 hour course and most of that time is spent in a classroom talking about use of force, firearms safety, and non-violent conflict resolution.

Also please note that this is a CONCEALED handgun. The students wouldn't know which staff member had one - and I doubt that a student would just randomly beat up teachers and staff members until he found one with a gun.

[Beta Man]

I used to teach gun-safety courses. Arush is correct.... if the student even knows the Teacher has a gun, more than likely the teacher has already broken a law (brandishing)

[jw]

this is Blu-ray.com which means that it is a U.S. website

No when you put that www in front of it , It becomes the world wide web. .com are domains registered in the US

[arush5268d]

Originally Posted by jwbbud

No when you put that www in front of it , It becomes the world wide web. .com are domains registered in the US

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=60429&page=3

I don't see a 'www' there for the thread.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/

Or one for the actual forum here.

[jw]

Originally Posted by arush5268d

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=60429&page=3

I don't see a 'www' there for the thread.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/

Or one for the actual forum here.

You like to argue about stupid stuff. Domain names are registered under the www.xxxxx.com prefix. Check out Godaddy.com for a better understanding. Forum.blu-ray is a location within the sites layout . Anyways someone with better terminology can explain it. You have proven my point

[arush5268d]

Originally Posted by jwbbud

You like to argue about stupid stuff. Domain names are registered under the www.xxxxx.com prefix. Check out Godaddy.com for a better understanding. Forum.blu-ray is a location within the sites layout . Anyways someone with better terminology can explain it. You have proven my point

Well....agree to disagree then.