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Old 02-01-2009, 12:13 AM   #41
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so you can actually maze the enemy in this one?

that was my favorite aspect in towerd defense from teh days of starcraft and warcraft3...

so how does the upgrading work out?
You can put Blocking Towers, which are just giant barricades, in the path of oncoming enemies. Smaller enemies have to path around those, but larger ones can attack and destroy them. The solution to that, of course, is to put attacking towers and a Repair Tower near the blocking tower so that you can (hopefully) kill the attackers before they can kill your blocks and get to your vulnerable attack towers.

Upgrading is just like using gems in PixelJunk Monsters; select the tower, hit X, and spin the menu until you see the Upgrade option (actually Upgrade is the default action on a tower so you don't have to spin the menu at all). Upgrading towers costs money; quite a bit more money than buying more towers, but some towers get significantly stronger with upgrades.

To upgrade any tower above level 2, you have to first research the tech level 3 + level 4 upgrade (100 credits) to unlock those upgrade ranks, and then level 5 requires a separate 200 credit upgrade to unlock for all towers.
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Old 02-01-2009, 04:20 PM   #42
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ok, i think i'm sold, thanks icemage.
i'll buy this when i can, i've been outrageously busy lately, and this next couple of weeks don't look any better

I WANT SAVAGE MOON!!!
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Old 02-01-2009, 06:29 PM   #43
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ok, i think i'm sold, thanks icemage.
i'll buy this when i can, i've been outrageously busy lately, and this next couple of weeks don't look any better

I WANT SAVAGE MOON!!!
If you like PixelJunk Monsters and Starship Troopers you'll love Savage Moon.

I just full-cleared the first nebula last night (all levels cleared with all enemies destroyed). The second nebula is much more challenging. This is shaping up to be harder than PJM because the attack paths aren't always obvious and you basically have to guess where enemies will travel after each wave.
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Old 02-01-2009, 09:08 PM   #44
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If you like PixelJunk Monsters and Starship Troopers you'll love Savage Moon.

I just full-cleared the first nebula last night (all levels cleared with all enemies destroyed). The second nebula is much more challenging. This is shaping up to be harder than PJM because the attack paths aren't always obvious and you basically have to guess where enemies will travel after each wave.
well, i'm a vet to Tower Defense, having played it to hell on starcraft and warcraft3.
Monsters was a cute game and had a good balance, but i'm glad to hear savage moon is more like the raw tower defenses from the RTS mods.

my fav was the pokemon tower defense for war3, every tower had a pokemon name and they all servd their own purpose. jigglypuff towers were the ultimate putting the enemies to sleep. jigglypuff!
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Old 02-08-2009, 12:43 PM   #45
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I just finished today. This is hardest game ever played.
The last stage's last wave is nightmare.
Just play last stage and you will know what i mean.
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Old 02-08-2009, 02:23 PM   #46
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Agreed...man I thought PJM was tough but this thing is much harder! So far my impression is it's too hard....I won't even get to experience the full game at this rate.
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Old 02-08-2009, 07:37 PM   #47
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I've been really addicted to this game. It's like Pixel Junk Monsters on steroids. I really loved PJM, but it pales by comparison. Savage Moon has better graphics, better game play, and more sophisticated strategy.

Most particularly, a failing of PJM is that there were many kinds of towers, but most of them weren't worth building. It was better to ignore most of them completely and stick to the few effective towers. Not so in Savage Moon. The wide array of different towers in this game is actually useful and really makes for more options and variety in how to effectively approach your defense.

Even things like the blocking towers are not ignorable. In the early levels, you can get by without them. But in the later levels, they become increasingly important. They affect the dynamic of path selection by the enemies, and despite being themselves simple, they have complex effects on strategy. Usually, if the enemy manages to crack one of your blocking towers, you're doomed because the enemy will now turn around and flood through the crack in your defenses.

The game is difficult, and I really like that. It's become harder and harder to find challenging games as 'casual gaming' has become the new industry mantra. However, I would call it the good sort of difficult rather than annoying difficult.

After the tutorial levels, don't presume to beat each level the first time you play it as in most games. In fact, expect to lose several times. If you expect to be winning most of the time, you're going to be frustrated by this game.

Each level has a different key to victory. And it takes experimentation to figure it out. And experimentation means you're going to get rammed on thorax. So don't sweat having to restart a lot of times. Once you figure out the key to how to build your defense on a particular level, this game does not require you to be ultra fast and precise on the controls and time usage to win.

In PJM, there weren't many choices about how to build your defenses and so the direction you needed to go was generally pretty obvious. The game was really centered on perfectly tuning those defenses. In Savage Moon, there are vastly more choices. The challenge is in figuring out an approach that works on a particular level, and not as much in fine tuning it. It doesn't actually need to be tuned that well to survive the level. However, great tuning is still needed if you want to get the trophies by surviving perfectly.

It's very well balanced and thought out. And when I'm playing it, I sure do feel like I'm living in Starship Troopers. It's very cool. And I'd highly recommend it to anyone who enjoys the tower defense genre.
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:23 PM   #48
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Agreed...man I thought PJM was tough but this thing is much harder! So far my impression is it's too hard....I won't even get to experience the full game at this rate.
Its just that it goes from 0-60.. its not hard it just takes you from tutorial to straight hell with no practice time haha


its sad there is only 2 tower defense games for ps3 though =(
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Old 02-11-2009, 05:35 PM   #49
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Hey Shin, can we add a poll to this thread so i can add it to the tier thread? please?
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Old 02-11-2009, 06:53 PM   #50
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it kicks ass its a tower-defense game.. 1 of 2 on psn.
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Old 02-15-2009, 09:41 AM   #51
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I just finished today. This is hardest game ever played.
The last stage's last wave is nightmare.
Just play last stage and you will know what i mean.
Update!
Hello all! I need help.
I'm trying to get all trophy.
So far I need 4 more to get 100%.
Question is how yto get credit skill and command credit skill?
I think requirement credit is above than 1000.
Is anyone get this trophy?
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Old 02-15-2009, 06:31 PM   #52
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Just picked this up a few days ago, GREAT GAME! Iam enjoying this alot more the PJM.
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Old 02-26-2009, 12:46 AM   #53
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Great game but damn it's hard.
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Old 02-26-2009, 01:44 AM   #54
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Great game but damn it's hard.
Keep trying different approaches to your defense.

When you've got a good approach that works well, it's not actually that hard to make your defenses hold.

Now, of course, when you play vengeance modes then it's a matter of having a good defense strategy, _and_ how perfectly you can keep it all up... adding more time until you are inevitably crushed.
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Old 03-03-2009, 11:32 PM   #55
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To upgrade any tower above level 2, you have to first research the tech level 3 + level 4 upgrade (100 credits) to unlock those upgrade ranks, and then level 5 requires a separate 200 credit upgrade to unlock for all towers.
Oh s$%t! really?! I had no idea what that level 3 + 4 did. The level I'm on has been kicking my butt. I've played it at least 20 times and can't win. I max out the number of towers I'm able to have and have plenty of credits. My stategy seemed to be sound but I simply couldn't win. Being able to upgrade my towers more would definitely be what I was lacking.
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Old 03-04-2009, 01:33 AM   #56
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Keep trying different approaches to your defense.

When you've got a good approach that works well, it's not actually that hard to make your defenses hold.

Now, of course, when you play vengeance modes then it's a matter of having a good defense strategy, _and_ how perfectly you can keep it all up... adding more time until you are inevitably crushed.
Finished it today (Amp tower is your friend) and just have to get redo 2 levels for the full health trophy and get the vengeance one. Going to do that on the Kitsune stage since I rocked that level.
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Wow, I know this thread is pretty old, but I just got the game this weekend. I came across the demo on PSN (don't know if it was new or not...) and I got hooked. I didn't pick this up when it was released since I wasn't that interested but this game is so addicting!

It's pretty tough too.... I got all three awards on the 4 levels of the first moon, but I have only beaten the 1st level of the second moon. The second level there keeps kicking my butt...I'll get there I suppose, I have to now that I'm addicted
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Wow, I know this thread is pretty old, but I just got the game this weekend. I came across the demo on PSN (don't know if it was new or not...) and I got hooked. I didn't pick this up when it was released since I wasn't that interested but this game is so addicting!

It's pretty tough too.... I got all three awards on the 4 levels of the first moon, but I have only beaten the 1st level of the second moon. The second level there keeps kicking my butt...I'll get there I suppose, I have to now that I'm addicted
Same here, played the demo, got hooked...completely stuck on the second level of the second moon. I got to wave 11...but that's about it, I got kind of frustrated...so I'll revisit it in a view days.
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Same here, played the demo, got hooked...completely stuck on the second level of the second moon. I got to wave 11...but that's about it, I got kind of frustrated...so I'll revisit it in a view days.
It's always the ones that fight back! I can never seem to get repair towers up fast enough and even if I do, they still take some out and then I have no money
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Old 05-11-2009, 01:27 PM   #60
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...it's the big ones that come in a BIG wave fairly early on that I can't block and have them go a certain direction. I really thought I was going to make it the last time I played...but nope.

I've tried using the command skills to my advantage, but didn't make THAT much of a difference.
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