Into the Wild (2007) - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

jkwest · 03-31-2009, 04:14 PM

I highly recommend the book also, it definately paints a different picture than the movie portrays, but, thats ok.

I preferred the movie myself.

SquidPuppet · 03-31-2009, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Stoudman

The best part about this movie is that exactly what you expect to happen actually happens.

*spoilerrrssss*

Someone with no experience or knowledge necessary and indeed required to survive outdoors on their own proceeds to attempt to do so, and within the span of...what was it, 2 years? He dies.

Go figure.

The real lesson here is don't be a dumbass following your ideals to the grave unless you plan to take it seriously and literally gain the knowledge required to make such a drastic change in lifestyle.

The message the film tries to convey fails on every front because it relies on a story in which most if not all viewers could literally end it by saying "I could have told you that would happen, dipshit". What could have been a great film, something that was very well done from start to finish, is ruined for me because in the end his attempt to show us all that we can achieve our goals is ruined by the fact that he dies, which tells us that...no we can't!

lol......

....still don't get why everyone is so high on this film....

Consider this. The message succeeds. He died persuing his dream AND left a final note saying that he lived A HAPPY AND FULL LIFE.

Thats a better life than lying on your death bed wishing you had done all those things that were too risky, scary, dangerous etc. but you really wanted to try.

ckent22 · 03-31-2009, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Pelican170

I think its a bit depressing. I didnt the first time i watched it but about the 3rd or 4th i do. The movie really is about how he made a bad decision, left his family and had noone to share his memories with and left those that cared for him behind again and again... great movie though...

I strongly disagree with you. Yeah he didn't share his dream with anyone else, and that affected him, but he was gonna follow his dream. That was what the movie was about. Chasing your dream.

ckent22 · 03-31-2009, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

Consider this. The message succeeds. He died persuing his dream AND left a final note saying that he lived A HAPPY AND FULL LIFE.

Thats a better life than lying on your death bed wishing you had done all those things that were too risky, scary, dangerous etc. but you really wanted to try.

I agree with you 100%. He lived a fuller life accomplishing what he wanted to do in a short time than he probably would have if he would have lived a 100 years not doing that.

Mubbly · 03-31-2009, 04:52 PM

I have to agree with Stoudman. Aside from Eddie Vedder's wonderful music, this movie is boring and meaningless. I can see why it is a popular blu-ray purchase, though.

SquidPuppet · 03-31-2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mubbly

I have to agree with Stoudman. Aside from Eddie Vedder's wonderful music, this movie is boring and meaningless. I can see why it is a popular blu-ray purchase, though.

I am pretty sure you missed something.

Mubbly · 03-31-2009, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

I am pretty sure you missed something.

No. I tried to like it, too. The ending is what really left me with a sour taste.

ckent22 · 03-31-2009, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mubbly

No. I tried to like it, too. The ending is what really left me with a sour taste.

This movie is anything but boring and meaningless. If you don't like it that's fine, but there is a lot going on in this movie. You can't simply reduce it to meaningless. If you thought it was boring that's fine, but it's not meaningless unless you simply just didn't understand it.

Mubbly · 03-31-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ckent22

This movie is anything but boring and meaningless. If you don't like it that's fine, but there is a lot going on in this movie. You can't simply reduce it to meaningless. If you thought it was boring that's fine, but it's not meaningless unless you simply just didn't understand it.

I understood it completely, I just didn't get anything out of it. Well,

[Show spoiler]

Brandon · 03-31-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mubbly

I understood it completely, I just didn't get anything out of it. Well,

[Show spoiler]

If you didn't get anything out of this movie...that just leaves me speechless...

kobeeightjp · 03-31-2009, 05:25 PM

I enjoyed this movie, but it didnt really "do it" for me. I could tell it was top notch, but its just not one of those I would have on my shelf. Perhaps a few more viewings later down the road might help.

ckent22 · 03-31-2009, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mubbly

I understood it completely, I just didn't get anything out of it. Well,

[Show spoiler]

I think the two go hand and hand. Obviously you didn't understand it. There's strong meaning in this movie and if you choose to ignore it then that's your choice, but there is A LOT here.

If your spoiler is what you've got out of it, then you've completely missed it. There's really no other way to say that. I think you are choosing to ignore what is here. That's one thing entirely different than simply saying there's no meaning at all.

[Show spoiler]

Stoudman · 03-31-2009, 07:55 PM

I doubt anyone is trying to ignore that message, honestly.

It's blatantly obvious where they're trying to go with the film, and that's the problem:

It's too damn preachy.

*spoiler alert of DOOM*

For how preachy it is, the fact that he dies at the end after only 2 years into it far outweighs any ideal that "he lived a fuller life than most people who wouldn't do that", because it's all up to one's perception of that. In my opinion you could live just as full of a life fine and well by not taking the path that he took, and live to see and experience far more things than he ever did given a mere 20, a substantial 40, or an amazing 60 years more of time than he had in his life.

I guess the point I would make is that it would be hard for me to argue that his efforts weren't noble, but it's pretty easy for me to suggest that he should have thought it out better than he did. Had he given himself more time to do so, he would have had more time to live his life the way he wanted to. That's the real tragedy of the story for those of us that perceived it in such a manner -- that's why the ending was so disappointing. That's why it's hard to watch or take any kind of even an artistic appreciation for a film in which a brave young man's hopes and dreams get squashed. Nobody likes to see that.

itsBlu2U · 03-31-2009, 08:11 PM

i'm definately sure the film isn't suggesting finding your inner peace(your dreams) it just saying living life is not a mind set or trying to become something, its the road you walk on and the people you make realtionships with, kinda like the saying "it the journey not the destination"

great movie too

JimSD · 03-31-2009, 08:27 PM

One of the best reviews of this movie that I've read was at dvdmg.com. I think this paragraph from the review best captures the the opposing views we see in this thread:

"And yet, Wild feels to me like something of a cinematic Rorschach, as I believe it’s open enough to interpretation for each viewer to view Chris in a different way. It would be easy to see Chris as the inspirational adventurer who went out on his own terms. It’s also be easy to think of Chris as a selfish brat who died alone and miserable due to his own stupidity and overconfidence. Neither interpretation – and any others you can conjure – exists as an absolute. Probably more people will embrace the former than the latter, but they’re both completely valid takes on the character."

Mubbly · 03-31-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ckent22

I think the two go hand and hand. Obviously you didn't understand it. There's strong meaning in this movie and if you choose to ignore it then that's your choice, but there is A LOT here.

If your spoiler is what you've got out of it, then you've completely missed it. There's really no other way to say that. I think you are choosing to ignore what is here. That's one thing entirely different than simply saying there's no meaning at all.

[Show spoiler]

No. I'm not ignoring anything. I'm just saying I didn't like the movie and I don't think it had a strong enough story. Nothing stood out to me, nothing really hit me. If you don't like that I don't like the movie, that's okay.

JackKnightStarman · 03-31-2009, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JimSD

One of the best reviews of this movie that I've read was at dvdmg.com. I think this paragraph from the review best captures the the opposing views we see in this thread:

"And yet, Wild feels to me like something of a cinematic Rorschach, as I believe it’s open enough to interpretation for each viewer to view Chris in a different way. It would be easy to see Chris as the inspirational adventurer who went out on his own terms. It’s also be easy to think of Chris as a selfish brat who died alone and miserable due to his own stupidity and overconfidence. Neither interpretation – and any others you can conjure – exists as an absolute. Probably more people will embrace the former than the latter, but they’re both completely valid takes on the character."

I totally agree with this view. I own the blu, and found that this was a tale of inspiration over a tale of defeat. Whatever you get from it, atleast it made you think.

SquidPuppet · 03-31-2009, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JimSD

One of the best reviews of this movie that I've read was at dvdmg.com. I think this paragraph from the review best captures the the opposing views we see in this thread:

"And yet, Wild feels to me like something of a cinematic Rorschach, as I believe it’s open enough to interpretation for each viewer to view Chris in a different way. It would be easy to see Chris as the inspirational adventurer who went out on his own terms. It’s also be easy to think of Chris as a selfish brat who died alone and miserable due to his own stupidity and overconfidence. Neither interpretation – and any others you can conjure – exists as an absolute. Probably more people will embrace the former than the latter, but they’re both completely valid takes on the character."

I am not slamming you, I am slamming that review. Its POOP. He wasnt a spoiled brat. He bailed because his parents were controlling buttheads and his homelife sucked. Just because there was $ available doesnt mean his family life was pleasant.

Secondly he didnt die because he was stupid. He brought books to SPECIFICALLY help him identify edible vs non-edible plants. ThAT is being prepared. He made a mistake because 2 plants looked very similar. That is not stupidity, that is an error.

Stoudman · 03-31-2009, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

That is not stupidity, that is an error.

....which could have been avoided by spending more time learning about those things instead of being mister gung ho do-it-yerselfer.

See?

Easily your point of view can be either way on the subject of the film.

SquidPuppet · 03-31-2009, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stoudman

....which could have been avoided by spending more time learning about those things instead of being mister gung ho do-it-yerselfer.

See?

Easily your point of view can be either way on the subject of the film.

03-31-2009, 07:55 PM	#53
Stoudman Active Member Member since:Jan 2009 Blu-ray collection:65	I doubt anyone is trying to ignore that message, honestly. It's blatantly obvious where they're trying to go with the film, and that's the problem: It's too damn preachy. spoiler alert of DOOM For how preachy it is, the fact that he dies at the end after only 2 years into it far outweighs any ideal that "he lived a fuller life than most people who wouldn't do that", because it's all up to one's perception of that. In my opinion you could live just as full of a life fine and well by not taking the path that he took, and live to see and experience far more things than he ever did given a mere 20, a substantial 40, or an amazing 60 years more of time than he had in his life. I guess the point I would make is that it would be hard for me to argue that his efforts weren't noble, but it's pretty easy for me to suggest that he should have thought it out better than he did. Had he given himself more time to do so, he would have had more time to live his life the way he wanted to. That's the real tragedy of the story for those of us that perceived it in such a manner -- that's why the ending was so disappointing. That's why it's hard to watch or take any kind of even an artistic appreciation for a film in which a brave young man's hopes and dreams get squashed. Nobody likes to see that. Last edited by Stoudman; 03-31-2009 at 07:58 PM.

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03-31-2009, 04:14 PM	#41
jkwest Off-Topic King Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Northern California PSN Id: jkwest5 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:20	I highly recommend the book also, it definately paints a different picture than the movie portrays, but, thats ok. I preferred the movie myself.

03-31-2009, 04:52 PM	#45
Mubbly Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Antioch, CA Blu-ray collection:72 Blu-ray reviews:2	I have to agree with Stoudman. Aside from Eddie Vedder's wonderful music, this movie is boring and meaningless. I can see why it is a popular blu-ray purchase, though.

03-31-2009, 05:25 PM	#51
kobeeightjp Active Member Member since:Dec 2008 Home Theater Gallery:12 Blu-ray collection:75 Blu-ray reviews:11 Trading Score:1	I enjoyed this movie, but it didnt really "do it" for me. I could tell it was top notch, but its just not one of those I would have on my shelf. Perhaps a few more viewings later down the road might help.

03-31-2009, 08:11 PM	#54
itsBlu2U Member Member since:Mar 2009	i'm definately sure the film isn't suggesting finding your inner peace(your dreams) it just saying living life is not a mind set or trying to become something, its the road you walk on and the people you make realtionships with, kinda like the saying "it the journey not the destination" great movie too

03-31-2009, 08:27 PM	#55
JimSD Expert Member Member since:Sep 2007 Blu-ray collection:109	One of the best reviews of this movie that I've read was at dvdmg.com. I think this paragraph from the review best captures the the opposing views we see in this thread: "And yet, Wild feels to me like something of a cinematic Rorschach, as I believe it’s open enough to interpretation for each viewer to view Chris in a different way. It would be easy to see Chris as the inspirational adventurer who went out on his own terms. It’s also be easy to think of Chris as a selfish brat who died alone and miserable due to his own stupidity and overconfidence. Neither interpretation – and any others you can conjure – exists as an absolute. Probably more people will embrace the former than the latter, but they’re both completely valid takes on the character."

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