PG-13: Good, Bad, or Ugly? - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

bruce_pullen · 02-02-2009, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nick1091

What exactly do you mean by awards crap?

'Art' that requires an R to exist. Something that requires specific on-screen content to sell.

Do you think ratings, PG-13 in particular, lead to that? In any way, big or small?

Barbie-Shrimp · 02-02-2009, 08:41 PM

The MPAA has always been problematic. Look at 2001. Great movie, rated G. Sure, I'll let my kid watch it, but I'd let her watch an animated movie that was made for kids (even if it's PG) way quicker. I don't think there's anything wrong with 2001, I just don't think a 2 or 3 year old needs to watch it. If it was released today, what rating do you think it would get? I doubt it would be G.

blu_chaplin · 02-02-2009, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drobswim13

I totally agree with this. Now, granted, they really did not show him actually axing in the guy in the face or the chainsaw into the chick, but I have seen sex scenes way worse than that and not deservant of an NC-17 rating. Hell, the sex scene in The Wrestler showed just as much nudity as that one scene in American Psycho (just with less women). That movie certainly did not deserve NC-17

Yeah but its other forms of sexual content too, like masturbation and gay sex, and they were just as soft as the straight scenes and they got hit with NC-17, and it always seems to happen to independent directors too

idk its very unfair

drobswim13 · 02-02-2009, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barbie-Shrimp

The MPAA has always been problematic. Look at 2001. Great movie, rated G. Sure, I'll let my kid watch it, but I'd let her watch an animated movie that was made for kids (even if it's PG) way quicker. I don't think there's anything wrong with 2001, I just don't think a 2 or 3 year old needs to watch it. If it was released today, what rating do you think it would get? I doubt it would be G.

Agreed, the content(subject matter) is a little too intense for a younger audience, even if it doesn't show anything horrible

Barbie-Shrimp · 02-02-2009, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drobswim13

Agreed, the content(subject matter) is a little too intense for a younger audience, even if it doesn't show anything horrible

Although, I'm pretty sure it shows

[Show spoiler]

, but that's a whole 'nother debate.

DAROCKNESSMONSTER · 02-02-2009, 09:06 PM

PG-13 is a necessity...
even if they happen to make some less than good horror films with it.

nick1091 · 02-03-2009, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bruce_pullen

'Art' that requires an R to exist. Something that requires specific on-screen content to sell.

Do you think ratings, PG-13 in particular, lead to that? In any way, big or small?

It's hard to say something like that in a vacuum. I think just to show over the top violence, drug use, etc for the sole purpose of appearing "edgy" is absurd. But if you look at a film like, say, The Wrestler, I just don't see how you can paint the complete story without the brutality of the weapons matches, or fully realistically portray the Rourke-Tomei relationship without the strip club.

And I don't really think that the PG-13 plays too major of a part in the "awards crap," because even if the elements of the film which would be objectionable were toned down, most of them just wouldn't be appealing stories to the crowd who would be restricted from viewing them.

Rodney-2187 · 02-19-2016, 09:28 PM

chip75 · 02-19-2016, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodneyfaile

WTF Happened to PG-13? - YouTube

There's plenty of F-Bombs in the video in text and audio, but they censor the naked bottom and breasts of an actresses washing ...

What. A. World.

Moviefan2k4 · 02-19-2016, 10:31 PM

On the whole, I think PG-13's done more good than bad. There's lots of films which would probably have never been made, without some kind of bridge between PG and R territory. My main beef is so many filmmakers now, pushing the limits of that rating...then resubmitting to the MPAA over and over, until they finally relent. I always think submission should be voluntary, but if you choose to then there should be a limit for "rechecking". After that, you either accept the ruling or take your chances.

Markgway · 02-19-2016, 10:34 PM

I only have two problems with the PG-13 rating.

1. When films which should obviously be rated R are shoehorned into a PG-13 for commercial reasons (Live Free or Die Hard, The Expendables 3).

2. The mostly gratuitous "one use of strong language" that says "hey, we're edgy, and not, you know, for kids!".

darkness2918 · 02-19-2016, 10:36 PM

It depends, some action & especially horror movies shouldn't be rated PG-13. For example, Terminator Genysis & The Expendables 3 should've been rated R & all horror films should be rated R or Unrated preferably.

L.J. · 02-19-2016, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darkness2918

It depends, some action & especially horror movies shouldn't be rated PG-13. For example, Terminator Genysis & The Expendables 3 should've been rated R & all horror films should be rated R or Unrated preferably.

Was going to post the same thing. Lot of good PG 13 films out there just don't like when some are toned down for it when they should be R rated. Can't imagine John Wick as a pg 13.

Leonidas King · 02-19-2016, 10:49 PM

For a second there I thought the title heading was referring to a PG-13 version of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

L.J. · 02-19-2016, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leonidas_King

For a second there I thought this was referring to a PG-13 version of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

Thought the same thing.

Markgway · 02-19-2016, 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chip75

There's plenty of F-Bombs in the video in text and audio, but they censor the naked bottom and breasts of an actresses washing ...

Who says Americans have no grasp of irony...?

Rodney-2187 · 02-19-2016, 11:09 PM

I think it's that way because Youtube allows profanity but not nudity. You can curse at someone, or even kill them, just don't flash them or have sex with them.

WhySoBlu? · 02-19-2016, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rodneyfaile

I think it's that way because Youtube allows profanity but not nudity. You can curse at someone, or even kill them, just don't flash them or have sex with them.

Youtube allows nudity.

C. Anton · 02-19-2016, 11:23 PM

Hitchcock could have written Se7en without any grime and it would still be talked about today. PG-13 is a weird in-between, but if anything helpful for the industry, it should be forcing out more intelligent scripts. That makes sense in my head, it's just not a reality.

AaronJ · 02-20-2016, 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by C. Anton

Hitchcock could have written Se7en without any grime and it would still be talked about today. PG-13 is a weird in-between, but if anything helpful for the industry, it should be forcing out more intelligent scripts. That makes sense in my head, it's just not a reality.

Fincher did exactly what what Hitchcock did, in making you THINK that you saw way more than you actually saw.

Watch the movie again. Closely.

Similar Threads
thread	Forum	Thread Starter	Replies	Last Post
Bad copy of The Good the Bad and the Ugly?	Blu-ray Movies - North America	Riff Magnum	18	11-17-2009 02:59 PM
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly - NEED ARTWORK	Blu-ray Movies - North America	samdaman94	0	10-14-2009 03:08 PM
I Can't play Good Bad, and the Ugly??	Blu-ray Movies - North America	STI Jaguar	6	07-07-2009 01:41 AM
The Good The Bad and the Ugly	Wish Lists	gusk	8	06-26-2008 05:56 PM
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly	Wish Lists	Klausdoszissou	1	05-09-2008 11:30 PM

02-02-2009, 08:41 PM	#42
Barbie-Shrimp Expert Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Grand Rapids, MI Blu-ray collection:45	The MPAA has always been problematic. Look at 2001. Great movie, rated G. Sure, I'll let my kid watch it, but I'd let her watch an animated movie that was made for kids (even if it's PG) way quicker. I don't think there's anything wrong with 2001, I just don't think a 2 or 3 year old needs to watch it. If it was released today, what rating do you think it would get? I doubt it would be G.

02-02-2009, 09:06 PM	#46
DAROCKNESSMONSTER Senior Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Ohio. Blu-ray collection:291 Blu-ray reviews:1	PG-13 is a necessity... even if they happen to make some less than good horror films with it.

02-19-2016, 10:31 PM	#50
Moviefan2k4 Banned Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Montgomery, TX 4K collection:44 Blu-ray collection:317 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:2	On the whole, I think PG-13's done more good than bad. There's lots of films which would probably have never been made, without some kind of bridge between PG and R territory. My main beef is so many filmmakers now, pushing the limits of that rating...then resubmitting to the MPAA over and over, until they finally relent. I always think submission should be voluntary, but if you choose to then there should be a limit for "rechecking". After that, you either accept the ruling or take your chances.

02-19-2016, 10:34 PM	#51
Markgway Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jul 2013 Location:Scotland Trading Score:13	I only have two problems with the PG-13 rating. 1. When films which should obviously be rated R are shoehorned into a PG-13 for commercial reasons (Live Free or Die Hard, The Expendables 3). 2. The mostly gratuitous "one use of strong language" that says "hey, we're edgy, and not, you know, for kids!".

02-19-2016, 10:36 PM	#52
darkness2918 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Sep 2014 Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:231 Blu-ray collection:2046 DVD collection:493 Trading Score:157	It depends, some action & especially horror movies shouldn't be rated PG-13. For example, Terminator Genysis & The Expendables 3 should've been rated R & all horror films should be rated R or Unrated preferably.

02-19-2016, 10:49 PM	#54
Leonidas King Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Sparta, Laconia - GRC Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:657 Blu-ray collection:2628 Blu-ray reviews: 34 Trading Score:250	For a second there I thought the title heading was referring to a PG-13 version of The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

02-19-2016, 11:09 PM	#57
Rodney-2187 Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jan 2014 4K collection:31 Blu-ray collection:416 DVD collection:149 MA collection:716 Digital collection:366 iTunes collection:762 Prime collection:729 Trading Score:82	I think it's that way because Youtube allows profanity but not nudity. You can curse at someone, or even kill them, just don't flash them or have sex with them.

02-19-2016, 11:23 PM	#59
C. Anton Power Member Member since:Jan 2016 Trading Score:81	Hitchcock could have written Se7en without any grime and it would still be talked about today. PG-13 is a weird in-between, but if anything helpful for the industry, it should be forcing out more intelligent scripts. That makes sense in my head, it's just not a reality.

Best Blu-ray Movie Deals