StudioCanal Kurosawa RAN Blu-ray - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

retablo · 02-12-2010, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by momaw

So is the review confirming that Lionsgate has done a complete new transfer and then packaged it up with the exact same features and down to the exact same artwork as the Studio Canal blu-ray or by surpasses other versions is he referring to the other foreign releases (France, Germany, Spain) which were also not very good?

I am extremely sceptical of a new print. Until it is confirmed that this print is in fact better than the Studio Canal print, I'll be holding off. How hard would it have been to say they have done a new print and it is better than the Studio Canal print? Would clear up a lot of confusion. The fact such a simple statement wasn't made doesn't change my belief this is probably just a port.

It's not a new transfer, its the StudioCanal transfer.

TokyoLee · 02-17-2010, 02:15 AM

Can anyone recommend this movie as a blind buy? im really thinking of picking this up just want to hear some opinions first

GGX · 02-17-2010, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by TokyoLee

Can anyone recommend this movie as a blind buy? im really thinking of picking this up just want to hear some opinions first

You cant go wrong with any of Akira Kurosawa's movies.

SlaughterX · 02-17-2010, 05:32 AM

I thought Seven Samurai was pretty boring... but yeah, Ran is good, much better in my opinion, but most probably wouldn't agree with me on that. SS is just too damn long and it gets pretty boring.

Anyway I just sold my CC DVD set yesterday so I went ahead and ordered this, should be here in a couple of days, I hope it was worth the trouble of replacing.

repete66211 · 02-17-2010, 01:31 PM

Ran is brilliant in all aspects, but for those who lack the patience for subtitles and/or black & white I would say Ran is the most accessible of Kurosawa's samurai movies.

Blu Titan · 02-17-2010, 01:34 PM

I ordered this one today. I watched Ran many years ago, but did not appreciate it at the time. Looking forward to viewing it this weekend.

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Originally Posted by GGX

You cant go wrong with any of Akira Kurosawa's movies.

Fully agree.

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Originally Posted by TokyoLee

Can anyone recommend this movie as a blind buy? im really thinking of picking this up just want to hear some opinions first

Here's a very good review by Dustin Somner: Ran

42041 · 02-17-2010, 04:25 PM

Not getting until they do a proper HD transfer. Upscaling SD ain't cutting it.

repete66211 · 02-17-2010, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by 42041

Not getting until they do a proper HD transfer. Upscaling SD ain't cutting it.

Yeah, I want this movie in HD, but I will wait for either a better transfer (which probably won't be for years) or else a price drop. In other words, the Price Tracker will notify me when it hits $15.

pro-bassoonist · 02-17-2010, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 42041

Not getting until they do a proper HD transfer. Upscaling SD ain't cutting it.

Despite speculations on a number of different forums -- including scientific shots -- the transfer is most definitely NOT an SD upscale.

Pro-B

bobeink · 02-17-2010, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

Despite speculations on a number of different forums -- including scientific shots -- the transfer is most definitely NOT an SD upscale.

Pro-B

I'd have to agree with that. If you haven't seen it yet and don't own it on DVD, I'd say go for it!

P@t_Mtl · 02-17-2010, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bobeink

I'd have to agree with that. If you haven't seen it yet and don't own it on DVD, I'd say go for it!

I do own the DVD but I will buy the BD, I enjoy this movie

BaronVH · 02-17-2010, 08:52 PM

Got it today. Here is the deal- the picture quality is bad. Most likely the worse picture in my 300+ BD collection. That being said, it is a vast improvement over my DVD. I did not have the Criterion DVD, but the other DVD had horrendous picture quality, and this is an improvement. The sound was a huge improvement over the DVD. I can say without a doubt that this is the best this movie has looked, but I would be interested to see how it compares with the Criterion DVD. I bet the image quality is not much better than the BD, but I would assume it is slightly better.

All of that is only about audio and video quality. The movie itself is supurb. To me, it is Kurosawa's best film by far. I am not a proponent of blind-buys, but it is certainly an epic. If you have an interest in movies involving Japanese warfare, then this should be at the top of your list.

P@t_Mtl · 02-17-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BaronVH

Got it today. Here is the deal- the picture quality is bad. Most likely the worse picture in my 300+ BD collection. That being said, it is a vast improvement over my DVD. I did not have the Criterion DVD, but the other DVD had horrendous picture quality, and this is an improvement. The sound was a huge improvement over the DVD. I can say without a doubt that this is the best this movie has looked, but I would be interested to see how it compares with the Criterion DVD. I bet the image quality is not much better than the BD, but I would assume it is slightly better.

All of that is only about audio and video quality. The movie itself is supurb. To me, it is Kurosawa's best film by far. I am not a proponent of blind-buys, but it is certainly an epic. If you have an interest in movies involving Japanese warfare, then this should be at the top of your list.

Well I am planning to get the BD later this week, I do have the Criterion DVD, I can have a compare and share it with your guys if you want??

repete66211 · 02-17-2010, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Well I am planning to get the BD later this week, I do have the Criterion DVD, I can have a compare and share it with your guys if you want??

Please do, although the comparison will be academic for me. I have the "other" DVD so, despite the poor PQ of the Blu-ray I'll probably be buying it.

Thanks for the heads up BaronVH!

42041 · 02-17-2010, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

Despite speculations on a number of different forums -- including scientific shots -- the transfer is most definitely NOT an SD upscale.

Pro-B

If the speculation is even necessary I'll save my money. It might be better than the DVD, which often do not use the full extent of their 480p resolution, but that doesn't mean it's HD.

Russell_L · 02-17-2010, 09:34 PM

DVD Beaver has already done a NINE-way comparison (2 Blus and 7 DVDs) here:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare2/ran.htm

I had the old Fox-Lorber DVD (horrible) as well as the Criterion DVD (much better). From the screencaps on DVD Beaver, the new Blu looks pretty good in comparison to the others, but the obvious EE is a distraction.

pro-bassoonist · 02-17-2010, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 42041

If the speculation is even necessary I'll save my money. It might be better than the DVD, which often do not use the full extent of their 480p resolution, but that doesn't mean it's HD.

Speculating is certainly fine. And I definitely do not endorse the transfer. However, it is not an SD upconvert.

Pro-B

Blu Titan · 02-17-2010, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

Speculating is certainly fine. And I definitely do not endorse the transfer. However, it is not an SD upconvert.

Pro-B

Thanks for clearing that up Pro-B. I don't own it on DVD, so buying was an easy decision.

Alamo Bruin · 02-17-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jeff Kleist

This is the "Studio Canal Collection", not a release by Canal specifically. Canal does not control the film in any English speaking territories, but their partners like LG and Optimum do, so they left off English subtitles because no one else was putting the film out at the time.

So far as I know an english dub doesn't even exist for the film, and no one who purchases Kurosawa films would want one anyway. Dub-only would be completely unmarketable

The rental I got from Netflix HAS English subtitles.

TokyoLee · 02-18-2010, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Here's a very good review by Dustin Somner: Ran

Thanks Titan,that was a great review ill order this tomorrow
I do love Akira's films never got around to see this one,Cant Wait

02-17-2010, 02:15 AM	#42
TokyoLee Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2009 Location:New York Blu-ray collection:141 DVD collection:36 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:9	Can anyone recommend this movie as a blind buy? im really thinking of picking this up just want to hear some opinions first Last edited by Blu Titan; 02-17-2010 at 02:26 AM. Reason: moved post.

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02-17-2010, 05:32 AM	#44
SlaughterX Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 Location:Marion, IL Home Theater Gallery:26 4K collection:208 Blu-ray collection:1089 DVD collection:12 Trading Score:1	I thought Seven Samurai was pretty boring... but yeah, Ran is good, much better in my opinion, but most probably wouldn't agree with me on that. SS is just too damn long and it gets pretty boring. Anyway I just sold my CC DVD set yesterday so I went ahead and ordered this, should be here in a couple of days, I hope it was worth the trouble of replacing.

02-17-2010, 01:31 PM	#45
repete66211 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Kansas City area Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:196 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:3	Ran is brilliant in all aspects, but for those who lack the patience for subtitles and/or black & white I would say Ran is the most accessible of Kurosawa's samurai movies.

02-17-2010, 04:25 PM	#47
42041 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2008	Not getting until they do a proper HD transfer. Upscaling SD ain't cutting it.

02-17-2010, 08:52 PM	#52
BaronVH Power Member Member since:Oct 2007	Got it today. Here is the deal- the picture quality is bad. Most likely the worse picture in my 300+ BD collection. That being said, it is a vast improvement over my DVD. I did not have the Criterion DVD, but the other DVD had horrendous picture quality, and this is an improvement. The sound was a huge improvement over the DVD. I can say without a doubt that this is the best this movie has looked, but I would be interested to see how it compares with the Criterion DVD. I bet the image quality is not much better than the BD, but I would assume it is slightly better. All of that is only about audio and video quality. The movie itself is supurb. To me, it is Kurosawa's best film by far. I am not a proponent of blind-buys, but it is certainly an epic. If you have an interest in movies involving Japanese warfare, then this should be at the top of your list.

02-17-2010, 09:34 PM	#56
Russell_L Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:San Francisco Home Theater Gallery:2 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:800 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 11	DVD Beaver has already done a NINE-way comparison (2 Blus and 7 DVDs) here: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/DVDCompare2/ran.htm I had the old Fox-Lorber DVD (horrible) as well as the Criterion DVD (much better). From the screencaps on DVD Beaver, the new Blu looks pretty good in comparison to the others, but the obvious EE is a distraction.

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