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[Ernest Rister]

My choices for 3-D conversions...

from the Walt-era:
Fantasia
Pinocchio
Bambi
Sleeping Beauty

from the Eisner era:
Tarzan
Treasure Planet
The Rescuers Down Under
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Aladdin
Tempted to add Atlantis, but the film has an intentional flatness to it, like you're looking at the pages of a comic book. Even the visual f/x take inspirations from comic panels where you see a bolt of energy with the word "FRAAAAAPPPP!" over them. 3-D isn't really appropriate, unless Wise and Trousdale signed off on it.

[taei]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

My choices for 3-D conversions...

from the Walt-era:
Fantasia
Pinocchio
Bambi
Sleeping Beauty

from the Eisner era:
Tarzan
Treasure Planet
The Rescuers Down Under
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Aladdin
Tempted to add Atlantis, but the film has an intentional flatness to it, like you're looking at the pages of a comic book. Even the visual f/x take inspirations from comic panels where you see a bolt of energy with the word "FRAAAAAPPPP!" over them. 3-D isn't really appropriate, unless Wise and Trousdale signed off on it.

Out of these, I believe that Aladdin and Hunchback would be great!

I'm secretly hoping that they announce the 3D theatrical release of Aladdin in the Cinderella Blu-Ray. I just can't wait for it..

A whole new world+Prince Ali+A friend like me = Amazing 3D effects.

[yumny]

Originally Posted by taei

I think this is a fan made poster, I mean, if Disney did re-release Tarzan in 3D, they would also release a new poster. Also, I thought the sideways title is for Diamond Editions only. :S

If this ever happens, I would pre-book my ticket the minute it comes out. Tarzan's directing is among the best Disney has ever done and this would definitely work!

Ok, stay with me here, I know how unlikely this sounds but..
what if Tarzan is filling in the empty Diamond slot now that Pinocchio has been dropped?? Just wild mass guessing, but a girl can dream.

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

My choices for 3-D conversions...

from the Walt-era:
Fantasia
Pinocchio
Bambi
Sleeping Beauty

from the Eisner era:
Tarzan
Treasure Planet
The Rescuers Down Under
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
Aladdin
Tempted to add Atlantis, but the film has an intentional flatness to it, like you're looking at the pages of a comic book. Even the visual f/x take inspirations from comic panels where you see a bolt of energy with the word "FRAAAAAPPPP!" over them. 3-D isn't really appropriate, unless Wise and Trousdale signed off on it.

Treasure Planet, Hunchback of Notre Dame, Rescuers Down Under.. *sarcastic laugh* Disney hates those movies.

Aladdin is guaranteed I think. I doubt Disney would skip on this one within their "Big Four" (BatB - 2012, Lion King - 2011, Little Mermaid - 2013.. Aladdin, 2014?).

[yumny]

About the legitimacy issue, here's what we saw on DA:

It's re-releasing in theaters September 2012!! In the UK!
Mom rung Disney and they said yes, but they gonna confirm it in the end of July.

So let's wait till the end of July to see what Disney UK has to say about this. Or maybe someone in the UK on this forum can "ring Disney" too. I think there's a 40% something chance this is legit.

[Ernest Rister]

*sarcastic laugh* Disney hates those movies.

I didn't say they were Disney's choices. I said they were my choices, kiddo.

[yumny]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

I didn't say they were Disney's choices. I said they were my choices, kiddo.

Sorry, I read over that part.
In that case, I really agree. HonD, TP and RDE would be magnificent in 3D. Just imagine that opening scene from RDE!

[Pixelfox]

Originally Posted by taei

I really wish that they would not do that.. I don't want to buy it now and then have to re-buy the 3D version in the future... I wonder if all of this will be for naught, I mean, I keep buying 3D Blu-rays, but God knows when I'll get a 3D compatible TV.. I guess it'll go into the home theatre I keep dreaming of.

Haha, this is me 100%. I have zero interest in ever buying a 3D TV, yet I have Beauty and the Beast 3D, The Lion King 3D, Tangled 3D and will probably be buying Finding Nemo 3D later this year. I just want to have the best, most complete version of each release, I can't help it. Plus, the lenticular slipcovers rock.

[taei]

Originally Posted by Pixelfox

Haha, this is me 100%. I have zero interest in ever buying a 3D TV, yet I have Beauty and the Beast 3D, The Lion King 3D, Tangled 3D and will probably be buying Finding Nemo 3D later this year. I just want to have the best, most complete version of each release, I can't help it. Plus, the lenticular slipcovers rock.

I've actually started saving up for a 3D projector.. I figured it would be better than a TV. Then maybe it's one step closer to having a home theatre.

[yumny]

Originally Posted by esteban²

Checked and double checked, this one is for real. The poster is also available in a hi-res version. It's happening.

http://www.filmtotaal.nl/images/newscontent/a7bb7c2.jpg

Holy mother of god, I'm gonna lose my shit! This proves my fan theory that I had on the Pocahontas topic! This is why Disney left out a Tarzan release for the US!!!

Raises the question though.. why the hell did they put out that rappy BD in Europe? To cash in on it quickly before the movie got here in cinemas?

Originally Posted by xmjonny

3D hurts my eyes after an extended period of time.

I've seen Toy Story 1 +2 double feature in 3D, Lion King in 3D, and the Avengers in 3D while in theaters. I've only purchased one 3D film - Pirates 4, because it was on sale for $22 when it first came out in a 6-Disc Best Buy pack while the Blu-ray/DVD combo was only $2 dollars cheaper.

I have no interest in buying any 3D movies though since I'm not gonna get a 3DTV. But in theaters, it's fine. And Tarzan in 3D would be gorgeous and would have to some indication of a good home release.

But Tarzan as a Diamond Edition? I dunno; I know it's part of the Disney Renaissance era, but it doesn't feel right. I'd prefer Peter Pan, Sleeping Beauty, Jungle Book, or Robin Hood to be honest.

This just means we need a new PR to confirm some Diamonds, or if that big marketing gimmick is going to continue past The Little Mermaid. Losing Pinocchio, 101 Dalmatians, and Fantasia/2000 seems like a big bummer/blow.

I agree that losing Pinocchio, Dalmatians and the Fantasias is terrible and I probably would give in and trade Tarzan for the Fantasias to fill that Diamond Edition slot. But then again it's not up to us..

we are talking about the company that bundled Pocahontas with Pocahontas II and released Castle in the Sky with dubtitles.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by yumny

Ok, stay with me here, I know how unlikely this sounds but..
what if Tarzan is filling in the empty Diamond slot now that Pinocchio has been dropped?? Just wild mass guessing, but a girl can dream.

I've asked it before, but:

WHERE

are we

GETTING

these crackpot ideas about what's been "added" or "dropped", or that there's been any change on the original Platinum list whatsoever since Peter Pan and Fantasia were added for marketing value?

I used to think it was just Ultimate DVDizzy's rumor-mongering...
Then I thought it was just all that quickly-read out-of-context confusion over Brazilian schedules and Aladdin not selling in the UK...
Okay, at this point, now I think we're officially at the Making rap Up stage, and just placing horse-racing bets about what we think "did" or "didn't sell", sight-unseen!
(It's starting to become like that Pixar-flop urban myth, where we almost WANT to see something "dropped", just to prove we were right and collect betting pools!)

People...Platinum isn't an adjective. It's a marketing list from 1999, amended 2003.
If you're surprised something's "back on" the list, there's every possibility it never left. Because nothing happened.

[yumny]

Originally Posted by EricJ

I've asked it before, but:

WHERE

are we

GETTING

these crackpot ideas about what's been "added" or "dropped", or that there's been any change on the original Platinum list whatsoever since Peter Pan and Fantasia were added for marketing value?

I used to think it was just Ultimate DVDizzy's rumor-mongering...
Then I thought it was just all that quickly-read out-of-context confusion over Brazilian schedules and Aladdin not selling in the UK...
Okay, at this point, now I think we're officially at the Making rap Up stage, and just placing horse-racing bets about what we think "did" or "didn't sell", sight-unseen!
(It's starting to become like that Pixar-flop urban myth, where we almost WANT to see something "dropped", just to prove we were right and collect betting pools!)

People...Platinum isn't an adjective. It's a marketing list from 1999, amended 2003.
If you're surprised something's "back on" the list, there's every possibility it never left. Because nothing happened.

Then why is the UK getting a Pinocchio release that isn't Platinum or Diamond?

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by yumny

Then why is the UK getting a Pinocchio release that isn't Platinum or Diamond?

..BECAUSE THEY'RE FOREIGNERS! They're DIFFERENT!!

So are Brazilians, and Greeks, and Germans, and Argentinians, and everybody else we've been using our little wishful dribblings of "inside info", unquote, to base our horse-racing guesses about domestic Disney upon--
They all each have their OWN corporate home-theater offshoot of Disney--or sometimes, as with the Ghiblis, not Disney at all--that each market to their own native tastes and selling patterns, and have absolutely nothing to do with US release schedules, or extra content, or print condition or vault availability!
Just as ours have little to do with theirs, except for the availability of hi-def masters.

"Yeah, but I heard that Chile said they were going to use Hunchback to replace--"
WHO (outside of Montevideo)......CARES??? Maybe Chileans just couldn't understand Jiminy Cricket either!
Disney US still makes the home video decisions about Disney in the US, and every vault movie ever claimed to have "been dropped" from the list since 2001 seems to have mysteriously appeared back on, and every title rumored to "have been last-minute added" since '04, seems, equally mysteriously, to have been "dropped". IOW, the list seems to look a lot like it did in '04, and if it "went" anywhere, it sure as heck seems to have ended up back where it started.
But in other news, Aladdin didn't sell that well in London.

[yumny]

^ Ok, cool down, we get ypur point. I'm confused though; I honestly thought that when something changed abroad, it'd change for the US, too. Prove me wrong or prove me right, but somebody please clear this up?

[Lnds500]

Originally Posted by EricJ

I've asked it before, but:

WHERE

are we

GETTING

these crackpot ideas about what's been "added" or "dropped", or that there's been any change on the original Platinum list whatsoever since Peter Pan and Fantasia were added for marketing value?

I used to think it was just Ultimate DVDizzy's rumor-mongering...
Then I thought it was just all that quickly-read out-of-context confusion over Brazilian schedules and Aladdin not selling in the UK...
Okay, at this point, now I think we're officially at the Making rap Up stage, and just placing horse-racing bets about what we think "did" or "didn't sell", sight-unseen!
(It's starting to become like that Pixar-flop urban myth, where we almost WANT to see something "dropped", just to prove we were right and collect betting pools!)

People...Platinum isn't an adjective. It's a marketing list from 1999, amended 2003.
If you're surprised something's "back on" the list, there's every possibility it never left. Because nothing happened.

Oh, this is gonna be fun....

[nf0603]

Originally Posted by EricJ

I've asked it before, but:

WHERE

are we

GETTING

these crackpot ideas about what's been "added" or "dropped", or that there's been any change on the original Platinum list whatsoever since Peter Pan and Fantasia were added for marketing value?

I used to think it was just Ultimate DVDizzy's rumor-mongering...
Then I thought it was just all that quickly-read out-of-context confusion over Brazilian schedules and Aladdin not selling in the UK...
Okay, at this point, now I think we're officially at the Making rap Up stage, and just placing horse-racing bets about what we think "did" or "didn't sell", sight-unseen!
(It's starting to become like that Pixar-flop urban myth, where we almost WANT to see something "dropped", just to prove we were right and collect betting pools!)

People...Platinum isn't an adjective. It's a marketing list from 1999, amended 2003.
If you're surprised something's "back on" the list, there's every possibility it never left. Because nothing happened.

I agree, didn't everyone think Aladdin was dropped, and lo and behold, it's coming in about eight months?

If Pinocchio and Sleeping Beauty are "dropped" like some say, I already have the Platinum Blus so I'm good on owning them. But with Peter Pan, I hope they don't pull a "let's pair this with the sequel" thing like Disney seems so eager to do with a lot of their titles that aren't Diamond.

[disneyfreak]

Originally Posted by nf0603

I agree, didn't everyone think Aladdin was dropped, and lo and behold, it's coming in about eight months?

If Pinocchio and Sleeping Beauty are "dropped" like some say, I already have the Platinum Blus so I'm good on owning them. But with Peter Pan, I hope they don't pull a "let's pair this with the sequel" thing like Disney seems so eager to do with a lot of their titles that aren't Diamond.

Where is the Sleeping beauty getting dropped coming from? Peter Pan most likely won't get paired due to it being a diamond edition, it saves it from the 2 pack release.

[nf0603]

Originally Posted by disneyfreak

Where is the Sleeping beauty getting dropped coming from? Peter Pan most likely won't get paired due to it being a diamond edition, it saves it from the 2 pack release.

The rumor has been that Peter Pan was dropped too from the Diamond line. Someone mentioned Sleeping Beauty and Pinocchio being dropped in the thread a week or two back. But its probably all heresy. After all, the Platinum DVD line was supposed to be ten titles, then they added those three anyways. So I am sure we might see 12-13 Diamond BDs much like we saw Platinum DVDs.

While I hope Sleeping Beauty and Pinocchio get diamond treatment for those who didn't buy BD in 2008-2009 (SB was already in moratorium when I went blu 2 years ago, but stores still had copies left then... they don't now), personally if they are dropped, I'm fine since I don't feel the need to repurchase them as I'm pleased with what I have already.

[Pixelfox]

Originally Posted by nf0603

I agree, didn't everyone think Aladdin was dropped, and lo and behold, it's coming in about eight months?

To be fair, people didn't just think that Aladdin was dropped. It was dropped. The Platinum Edition DVD sales were below expectation so they replaced it with the Fantasia films, but then they decided to drop those as well. Aladdin just happens to have been re-added to the line (which I am very happy to hear).

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Pixelfox

To be fair, people didn't just think that Aladdin was dropped. It was dropped. The Platinum Edition DVD sales were below expectation so they replaced it with the Fantasia films, but then they decided to drop those as well.

In the UK. That's the article that started the whole "They're dropping! They're adding! They're replacing! They're scrapping the whole system and starting over again!" rumor panic to begin with three years ago, when people began reading the UK article and posting the "pertinent bits" to the DVDizzy sites out of context--Thoroughly believing it was a US news scoop because they were hearing it for the first time and encouraging other innocent victims to do the same.

The article's been selectively reposted, clipped, re-reposted without international context, to this day, people literally don't know which country still has what.
The reason Aladdin was "re-added" in the US--with just as much non-fanfare as its apparent "dropping"--is, maybe it never happened in the first place. That's the trouble with reading foreign newspapers.

[HarryPotterGrl10]

Umm, there's LOTS of sequences in Mermaid that could benefit from 3D: The entire undersea environment for one; the storm; Ariel becoming human; the final fight; the wedding, etc.

And please, you are SOO wrong about Mermaid being inferior to Fantasia in video sales; etc. The Platinum Edition release of Mermaid was the HIGHEST-selling platinum release, EVER, up till that point.

As for theatrical gross, Fantasia's TOTAL box office earn is :$83,320,000. Mermaid's is
$211,343,479. I think we know the winner here. (And it ain't Fantasia!) (Source: Wikipedia pages for both.)

And as for critical reception, Mermaid was VERY highly praised, and still continues to be for this day. When Fantasia was first released, it had mixed. Mermaid had high praise.

So please, you are delusional if you think that Mermaid isn't superior to Fantasia, which it clearly is.