Star Wars: The Skywalker Saga 4K UHD (1977-2019)

[Superjim]

Originally Posted by WJWS Channel 13:Amity

which best buy store do you go to that's closed? the ones here in so call are all still open only curbside pick up though

I'm in Canada and I called my local Best Buy on Friday and it said the store is only open for online orders and pre-orders. I was too slow to pre-order so I was hoping there'd still be a way to get it off the shelf on Tuesday. I'm going to call again on Monday to see.

[Vader815]

To those who have sampled any of the discs from the OT or PT, are these grades pretty identical to Disney+?

I personally was mostly okay with the look of the Original Trilogy, even if they're the most accurate they've ever looked at home probably, but the Prequel Trilogy looked horrendous with fake HDR. Any insight here would be great. Thanks!


-Vader

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by Vader815

I personally was mostly okay with the look of the Original Trilogy, even if they're the most accurate they've ever looked at home probably, but the Prequel Trilogy looked horrendous with fake HDR.

What exactly is "fake HDR"?

[Vader815]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

What exactly is "fake HDR"?

A lot of people suspect Disney has an in-house HDR algorithm for catalogue titles that doesn't actually have more information in highlights, and instead just artificially boosts contrast and over-saturates color.

A lot of Disney+ titles look exactly as described, including the PT and Pirates of the Caribbean movies.


-Vader

[Superjim]

Originally Posted by Superjim

I'm in Canada and I called my local Best Buy on Friday and it said the store is only open for online orders and pre-orders. I was too slow to pre-order so I was hoping there'd still be a way to get it off the shelf on Tuesday. I'm going to call again on Monday to see.

That said, if there are any trustworthy eBay sellers to keep an eye on, I would be very interested in recommendations. I'm entertaining just going that route, too, depending on how things go.

[WJWS Channel 13:Amity]

Originally Posted by steel_breeze

This is so funny; I totally relate, and I'm right there with you. None of this would even register on my "concern" radar if it weren't for the whole quarantine / social-distancing thing, lol. May the Force be with you.

The person I got off the phone with assures me it will be delivered by Tuesday even though it hasn't shipped yet. hope shes right though honestly I think they don't really know that for sure. said there was no way they can switch to instore because the order has been processed and waiting to ship.

[steel_breeze]

Originally Posted by WJWS Channel 13:Amity

The person I got off the phone with assures me it will be delivered by Tuesday even though it hasn't shipped yet. hope shes right though honestly I think they don't really know that for sure. said there was no way they can switch to instore because the order has been processed and waiting to ship.

Nice. Appreciate you checking. Happy to get it "on schedule" on Tuesday, of course... but some people are getting it TOMORROW. Just sittin' here in quarantine waiting.....

[WJWS Channel 13:Amity]

Originally Posted by steel_breeze

Nice. Appreciate you checking. Happy to get it "on schedule" on Tuesday, of course... but some people are getting it TOMORROW. Just sittin' here in quarantine waiting.....

Yeah getting tomorrow would be nice, but I just want to see that its been shipped and on its way for Tuesday lol

[steel_breeze]

Originally Posted by WJWS Channel 13:Amity

Yeah getting tomorrow would be nice, but I just want to see that its been shipped and on its way for Tuesday lol

Should'a known I wouldn't get it early. I feel like the key word of my life is "waiting", lol. I'm always the one who's early to everything -- and have been all my life -- so I'm always the one waiting on everyone who's late to everything... which is EVERYone, lol. Then I became a cinematographer and what are some of my best-known titles? WAITING, WAITRESS, and WAITING FOR FOREVER. No kidding; how crazy is that?? Anyhoo... thinking I was going to get this early was wayyyy out of character.

[ski49]

Originally Posted by Superjim

I'm in Canada and I called my local Best Buy on Friday and it said the store is only open for online orders and pre-orders. I was too slow to pre-order so I was hoping there'd still be a way to get it off the shelf on Tuesday. I'm going to call again on Monday to see.

Just order it online for in store ( curb pickup )

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by WJWS Channel 13:Amity

That was my thought as well. Unless the store had a employee who tested positive and they shut that one location.


I also don't see why there would be a delay in getting the pre-orders packaged and shipped to California or NY by this point. unless they are shipping next day delivery come Monday morning. which I doubt.
I am waiting for a call back in 90 mins to see if they can somehow switch me to curbside pickup, even though it wont let me switch it online. At this point, I just don't see how this is going to get to me by Tuesday now. I knew I should have just held off till this weekend to order. oh well

who knows maybe I am just panicking for no reason lol.
maybe it will ship over night tonight or during the day tomorrow, I just checked some previous order dates and see their have been some to ship on a Saturday night or overnight Sunday night / morning. sorry for this post, being stuck indoors cabin fever starts to set in lol

Due to the pandemic, businesses are not full operational like they were, and their are going to be delays. That's to be expected under the circumstances, It shouldn't be a surprise. Movies are not considered essential, so I guess they'll ship their orders as soon as they can. This is not only Best Buy, it's everywhere.

[Majoran]

Originally Posted by Vader815

A lot of people suspect Disney has an in-house HDR algorithm for catalogue titles that doesn't actually have more information in highlights, and instead just artificially boosts contrast and over-saturates color.

A lot of Disney+ titles look exactly as described, including the PT and Pirates of the Caribbean movies.


-Vader

I really do wish people would stop using the “fake HDR” saying. People may not like the HDR grade that was done, but that’s something else entirely. The HDR grades (IMO) were consistent with the varying “owners/creators/etc” we can see differences (major in some cases) between the movies (with TFA/RO/IX being closer to “demo” type image. The prequels/OT and TLJ were much more subdued (TLJ it is known that was the DOPs wishes). Could Disney be doing an automated pass? Sure, but it’s just assuming by stating “fake HDR” as a “fact”.

[WJWS Channel 13:Amity]

Originally Posted by slimdude

Due to the pandemic, businesses are not full operational like they were, and their are going to be delays. That's to be expected under the circumstances, It shouldn't be a surprise. Movies are not considered essential, so I guess they'll ship their orders as soon as they can. This is not only Best Buy, it's everywhere.

Obviously!

But when you get charged that (not just pending) and nearly 3 days later it still hasn’t shipped, but yet others who bought it after you have already had it shipped, then it’s only natural to question it.
Had I not actually been charged yet, I would just 🤷🏻*♂️.
And if this were. Regular $5-30 Blu-ray I wouldn’t really be worried.

[spanky87]

Originally Posted by steel_breeze

Should'a known I wouldn't get it early. I feel like the key word of my life is "waiting", lol. I'm always the one who's early to everything -- and have been all my life -- so I'm always the one waiting on everyone who's late to everything... which is EVERYone, lol. Then I became a cinematographer and what are some of my best-known titles? WAITING, WAITRESS, and WAITING FOR FOREVER. No kidding; how crazy is that?? Anyhoo... thinking I was going to get this early was wayyyy out of character.

Waitress as in Adrienne Shelly's Waitress? Get the **** out of here! That's one of my favorite and most comforting movies. It must have been a joy to work with her.

I caved and bought the digital HD version on itunes (which I rarely do) since I watch it often and got tired of waiting for a blu-ray release.

[steel_breeze]

Originally Posted by spanky87

Waitress as in Adrienne Shelly's Waitress? Get the **** out of here! That's one of my favorite and most comforting movies. It must have been a joy to work with her.

I caved and bought the digital HD version on itunes (which I rarely do) since I watch it often and got tired of waiting for a blu-ray release.

Yes... Adrienne Shelly's WAITRESS. Really glad you like it so much! And yes, she was an absolute joy... as was Keri Russell, Nathan Fillion and friggin' Andy Griffith. You'd think that movie alone would entitle me to getting the Skywalker Box a few days early, right?? (I had to tie it back into this thread)

Oh, and I too own the HD version on iTunes. I have NO idea why there wasn't ever a Blu-ray, especially with the success of the excellent Broadway adaptation!

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by Jay Mammoth

Careful I got banned for selling codes early on this forum. I have sold them on Facebook ever since, much easier and never been banned 😂

I can't tell if I'm setting the pricing for my digital codes to high, or if no one is truly interested, but I find it hard to sell digital codes here on Blu-ray.com and do a far better a job and luck on Facebook.

[Vader815]

Originally Posted by Majoran

I really do wish people would stop using the “fake HDR” saying. People may not like the HDR grade that was done, but that’s something else entirely. The HDR grades (IMO) were consistent with the varying “owners/creators/etc” we can see differences (major in some cases) between the movies (with TFA/RO/IX being closer to “demo” type image. The prequels/OT and TLJ were much more subdued (TLJ it is known that was the DOPs wishes). Could Disney be doing an automated pass? Sure, but it’s just assuming by stating “fake HDR” as a “fact”.

If a movie is branded as HDR and doesn't have more visual information in the highlights than the blu-ray, all they did was re-grade it to approximate the look of HDR. I don't know what else you'd call that other than fake.

Here is an analysis form Vincent Teoh indicating the PT/OT doesn't have "real" HDR, just a different grade.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGZmMjPJiAk

The reason it's particularly egregious with the Prequel Trilogy is because the OT appears to be mostly accurate, while the PT has the contrast superficially cranked way up. It looks terrible.


-Vader

[JJ]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

I can't tell if I'm setting the pricing for my digital codes to high, or if no one is truly interested, but I find it hard to sell digital codes here on Blu-ray.com and do a far better a job and luck on Facebook.

It's super easy to sell DCs here - if they're recently released movies. The older they are, the far harder it is. If they're the 4K versions it's easy too. A bluray movie that's a few years old? Good luck. New ones though? I'll probably make an easy $70-75 off the codes for the 8 SW releases.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Vader815

If a movie is branded as HDR and doesn't have more visual information in the highlights than the blu-ray, all they did was re-grade it to approximate the look of HDR. I don't know what else you'd call that other than fake.

It's not really fake or Faux HDR™. Whilst HDR movies are in different containers, HDR, HDR10 or Dolby Vision, that can have different peak brightness, it's up to the filmmakers to decide how to grade them, some choose subtle, some want to melt the audiences' faces off.

The problems arise mainly down to tone-mapping, you can get something that peaks at 200 nits, put it in a high value container and it's going to look extremely dim (on the average display). But those 200 nits highlights would be twice as bright as an SDR grade.

If consumers were allowed to manually enter peak brightness into their displays (I think the new LGs are rolling out something similar) so the image could be displayed more sympathetically then subtle grades wouldn't be half as divisive.

[Rizor]

I finished up Empire Strikes Back. I don't mean to be hyperbolic but it's kind of a travesty. Noise reduction is often moderate to heavy throughout. Close ups fair better, but then you need to contend with the grain manipulation that often makes faces look like they have caked on makeup. Many iconic shots are ruined with noise reduction and edge enhancement. A shame since it has the best cinematography of these films. Maybe something about the photography just doesn't lend itself to the Lowry process? A New Hope held up better to their brand of digital clean up.