Lord of the Rings Trilogy (Theatrical Versions) - April 6, 2010

[SpaceDog]

Originally Posted by demiscy

I am so getting the slipcased steelbooks from Amazon..

Could you link these? I don't see them on amazon.

[Kurgen1975]

I think they are from Amazon.fr

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by SpaceDog

Could you link these? I don't see them on amazon.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-mo...gy-france.html

[threefiftyrocket]

If I have been reading things correctly, Peter Jackson has stated that these, the THEATRICAL VERSIONS, of the films ARE the DEFINITIVE versions of the films, and the EE's were made for the more die hard fans, those possibly of the book. If that is the case, then why wouldn't he want more of an input on the definitive release instead of waiting until later and only putting his effort and time into a version that is not even the definitive version? Am I looking at this right? If not, can someone set me straight?

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

You are not listening. Due to the way the post-production for Fellowship of the Ring was handled, the DNR is permanent and probably not removable. As such, no matter how many times they re-mastered, the DNR and softness will still be there. Don't forget, these films made for less than mediocre DVDs before, stands to reason the blu-rays might not be reference either.

You might as well be talking to deaf ears. The nitpicky people don't see it. And will not see it its like the same people saying TDK had a poor transfer yet many sites even gave it 5/5 PQ. Some people will never be satisfied

Now i have seen 4 reviewers saying this is good transfers and 2 people here with TV sets 48" - 50" saying it looks quite good. And that TTT and ROTK looks VERY good

[Kurgen1975]

http://www.amazon.fr/Coffret-collect...9886333&sr=1-1

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

If so, the Fellowship EE's will also be lackluster.

Its not lackluster it is the intended look of the movie

[DetroitSportsFan]

Another evil screencap comparison from that evil website....

[Show spoiler]

[captveg]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Apparently not extensive enough.

What individuals in QC report and what is/can be fixed are two different things (often constrained by budgets, materials, production window, marketing window, etc.).

[Batman1980]

The one on the right still looks better, the beard is a bit more detailed and so is his face. Wonder who made that comment at the bottom.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by mredman

You might as well be talking to deaf ears. The nitpicky people don't see it. And will not see it its like the same people saying TDK had a poor transfer yet many sites even gave it 5/5 PQ. Some people will never be satisfied

Now i have seen 4 reviewers saying this is good transfers and 2 people here with TV sets 48" - 50" saying it looks quite good. And that TTT and ROTK looks VERY good

I don't think the HUGE argument is that they are not looking SUPER AMAZING, its that many state (and I can't confirm this cuz I haven't seen the blu OR the HD broadcast) is that the HD broadcast looks BETTER than the Blu, if the DNR was baked in, this wouldn't be the case. If thats the case, the Blu's should look AT LEAST AS GOOD AS the HD broadcasts of the films. The argument here is that they don't look as good as they can...

[Grand Bob]

Originally Posted by Kurgen1975

http://www.amazon.fr/Coffret-collect...9886333&sr=1-1

From all of the negative comments on the French Amazon site, combined with the comments on the North American site, one would think that WB has some damage control to deal with.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

The one on the right still looks better, the beard is a bit more detailed and so is his face. Wonder who made that comment at the bottom.

The one on the right is the HDTV, the left is the BD.

I'm guessing the comment was made by whoever posted the pic over there.

[Diesel]

That is definitely the worst shot that has been posted of the movie.

The 1080p version was scary

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

From all of the negative comments on the French Amazon site, combined with the comments on the North American site, one would think that WB has some damage control to deal with.

Before the screencaps/reviews, the negative comments on the different Amazon sites had to do with the fact that these are the theatrical editions. Of course, now the negative comments will only continue to grow....

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Wolverine1980

You are not listening. Due to the way the post-production for Fellowship of the Ring was handled, the DNR is permanent and probably not removable. As such, no matter how many times they re-mastered, the DNR and softness will still be there. Don't forget, these films made for less than mediocre DVDs before, stands to reason the blu-rays might not be reference either.

I asked Penton-man about going back to the original shots and using the more mature DI or "Lustre" process to make FOTR look as good as the other two. He indicated that it would cost a lot of time and money.

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

How bout this... is it too much to speculate that because of the overwhelming backlash of the internet people saying that "I won't buy this, I will wait for the EE, and STICK IT TO THE MAN BY NOT BUYING THIS DOUBLE DIPPING WB GREED!" That Warner decided that they weren't going to spend buttloads of money on this getting a new master so they will look their absolute best, since people weren't going to buy it anyway? I know I wouldn't have, sounds kinda pointless.

I'm gonna put this back up cuz no one ever responded to it. We all know about the speculation going on whether the blu-rays could look better or not. What about what I posted before?

[Batman1980]

There are 2 unlikely but possible scenarios I thought of regarding the blu-ray versus HDTV scenario. It's possible that before all the post-production work was done that DNRed FoTR that the master was given to networks to broadcast. It's also possible that because it's a "TV" master that it's just a lot brighter and made to have a little more "punch" than the theatrical master.

[john_1958]

of course i will double dip as lotr was never on blu

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by Grand Bob

Although possible, I'm having a hard time believing that. He was in the middle of a lot of tasks when these transfers were done last year. I was wondering what the chain of approval at WB is for this transfer. Who would give the stamp of approval before Jackson would have seen it? Is it just one guy? Several? A department? Surely someone watched the finished product?

Jacksons has seen the Blu-ray. His words...

Peter Jackson: Well, it keeps changing. I am not the best person to ask about that believe it or not as I am not in charge of the Blu-ray, Warner Home Video is. I believe it is scheduled for sometime next year. They keep changing the date…I don’t know why. I’ve seen the Blu-ray as they sent it to me to approve and I looked at the film and it looks fantastic on Blu-ray but I don’t know the date.

http://www.collider.com/2009/12/04/e...is-still-2011/