Once Upon a Time in America (1984) (Extended Director's Cut)

[bundyblu]

Originally Posted by Marlow27

Quick question:

In the recently released 2 disc edition with the 229 min and the 251 min release, has the 229 min edition also been remastered? Or is it the same as the previous release?

The 229 min is the same as the previous release. Just the new 251 min cut is in 4K.

I'm curious to see if anyone knows if the new US and UK transfers are the same? I ordered the UK one because I wanted the steelbook.

[JimDiGriz]

Originally Posted by bundyblu

The 229 min is the same as the previous release. Just the new 251 min cut is in 4K.

I'm curious to see if anyone knows if the new US and UK transfers are the same? I ordered the UK one because I wanted the steelbook.

Yep Id like to know that too. I didnt realise you get the older disc with it as well - that makes this an easy buy now. I should imagine the UK/US releases are the same discs though?

[chris1234]

Originally Posted by bundyblu

The 229 min is the same as the previous release. Just the new 251 min cut is in 4K.

I'm curious to see if anyone knows if the new US and UK transfers are the same? I ordered the UK one because I wanted the steelbook.

I've got the US & UK transfers and they are the same. I ordered the US version first because I think it was released first then purchased the steelbook since it seemed a good price and I wanted to keep pristine copies of the 229 and 251 minute versions.

[HeavyHitter]

I bought the theatrical version primarily because of the color and that version was approved, but one of these days will probably just check out the extended cut. The strong increase in detail and film-like look is appealing in some ways despite the color difference. The theatrical version has that older transfer look although it's not a terrible disc either.

[Boschy]

I'm disappointed that the extended DC version release does not let you select the shorter director's cut version. After seeing the extra scenes, I would prefer them out of the movie if they're in such bad shape.

[Jompa]

I would also like that but for a different reason. I didn't find the new scenes any good.

[ijustblumyself]

For a first time viewer, which cut would you guys recommend starting with?

[English Patient]

Originally Posted by ijustblumyself

For a first time viewer, which cut would you guys recommend starting with?

I'd start with the 229-minute version - it's the one that Leone himself approved, it's the one that most film fans are familiar with, and the one that garnered all the critical acclaim. The newer 251-minute version may expand on some characters and plot developments (like more effectively introducing and explaining Eve's character - in the 229-minute version she's not well explained at all) but the rough shape of the newer footage may be jarring and may end up distracting you from enjoying the overall story.

[Tom Servo]

Originally Posted by Khronikos

The whole profit over anything else ideology in America is frightening sometimes.

Originally Posted by Filmmaker

I don't disagree with any of what you've said (and in fact, I agree vehemently with your comments about America's obsession with maximizing profits at the expense of quality)

Ah yes, "only in America"...

[wozman]

Canadian Buyer here.....what is the best version to get, its a blind buy.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Once-...lu-ray/106793/

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Once-...lu-ray/106766/

Is the only difference that one includes the booklet inside the casing?

All this talk about one being longer then the other, is that from the original release.

Any info greatly appreciated.
Thanks

[chris1234]

Originally Posted by wozman

Canadian Buyer here.....what is the best version to get, its a blind buy.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Once-...lu-ray/106793/

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Once-...lu-ray/106766/

Is the only difference that one includes the booklet inside the casing?

All this talk about one being longer then the other, is that from the original release.

Any info greatly appreciated.
Thanks

The first link [106793] says it includes 1 disc and digital copies of the 251 min version.

The second link [106766] says it includes 2 discs i.e. both the 229 min and the 251 min cuts plus a few extras.

Some prefer the 229 min version - the colors are truer to the original and some years after the movie was released Leone said the 229 min version was his preferred cut. It has some faults and parts are slightly fuzzy for a Blu-ray.

The 251 min version was an attempt by Leone's family and fans to get back to the original version made by Leone with a new 4K scan and full restoration. However the attempt has not been successful. Leone's original version ran for 270 minutes and the 4K scan has a very noticeable yellowish tint throughout. The version is missing 19 minutes and cuts not authorized by Leone have been made.

Despite the faults in the longer version some seem to quite like it and it may look better in theaters where the lighting will be different that in most homes.

At present my preferred version is the 229 min cut but if in the future the missing 19 minutes could be re-inserted into the extended version and correct color timing used, I would undoubtedly opt for the longer version.

[dallywhitty]

I watched the Extended Director's Cut of the film last night and absolutely loved it. Bar catching about an hour of the film on television years ago, this was my first time properly watching it. Obviously this means I can't directly compare this version to the 229m cut, but I do think the additional scenes (aside from the poor picture quality) fit into the film well without disrupting the pacing. Having seen them in context, it's now difficult to imagine the film without them.

I'm already tempted to re-watch the film, which is a rarity for me when it comes to films of this length.

[gates70]

For Canadians, the CE is $22.50 on Amazon right now. This thing has been at $29.99 for the longest time and even $32.

[timcat4843]

The Limited Edition Steelbook--(Exclusive to Amazon.co.uk) [Blu-ray] [Region Free] is currently $18.87 (U.S. currency).
This is the cheapest it's ever been.

When it was released back in October, it retailed for $40.00.

I'm guessing the collectors will be importing this like crazy.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Once-Upon-a-...A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

[lolwut]

Originally Posted by timcat4843

The Limited Edition Steelbook--(Exclusive to Amazon.co.uk) [Blu-ray] [Region Free] is currently $18.87 (U.S. currency).
This is the cheapest it's ever been.

When it was released back in October, it retailed for $40.00.

I'm guessing the collectors will be importing this like crazy.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Once-Upon-a-...A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

Yeah I saw that this week and ordered. Great price and much cheaper than the US set has ever been. Plus it has better art.

[AaronSCH]

Grab it cheap while you still can folks. This is one of he Regency titles which is going out-of-print as Regency has moved its catalog to Fox. This one will be very hard-to-find in the near future. And who knows how much you'll have to pay to snag one.

[Funktion]

Originally Posted by AaronSCH

Grab it cheap while you still can folks. This is one of he Regency titles which is going out-of-print as Regency has moved its catalog to Fox. This one will be very hard-to-find in the near future. And who knows how much you'll have to pay to snag one.

I delayed purchasing this recent edition (I love the movie, but I already have 2 BD editions: the theatrical cut BD, and the first extended BD that was released in Italy ), and I now see it out of stock at most Amazon stores, both in the US, UK, Italy, ...

Is it already out of print?
What other Regency titles are, or will be going, out of print?

[Ray Jackson]

Originally Posted by chris1234

The first link [106793] says it includes 1 disc and digital copies of the 251 min version.

The second link [106766] says it includes 2 discs i.e. both the 229 min and the 251 min cuts plus a few extras.

Some prefer the 229 min version - the colors are truer to the original and some years after the movie was released Leone said the 229 min version was his preferred cut. It has some faults and parts are slightly fuzzy for a Blu-ray.

The 251 min version was an attempt by Leone's family and fans to get back to the original version made by Leone with a new 4K scan and full restoration. However the attempt has not been successful. Leone's original version ran for 270 minutes and the 4K scan has a very noticeable yellowish tint throughout. The version is missing 19 minutes and cuts not authorized by Leone have been made.

Despite the faults in the longer version some seem to quite like it and it may look better in theaters where the lighting will be different that in most homes.

At present my preferred version is the 229 min cut but if in the future the missing 19 minutes could be re-inserted into the extended version and correct color timing used, I would undoubtedly opt for the longer version.

Are you saying you think the 4K remaster looks worse than the 229 minute transfer?

That would be good for me.

Because I have the 229 version and have no interest in spending money on a new version just because it has a few crappy-looking deleted scenes that probably never should have been in the movie to begin with.

...no offense to those who like those scenes.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by Funktion

I delayed purchasing this recent edition (I love the movie, but I already have 2 BD editions: the theatrical cut BD, and the first extended BD that was released in Italy ), and I now see it out of stock at most Amazon stores, both in the US, UK, Italy, ...

Is it already out of print?
What other Regency titles are, or will be going, out of print?

Which "recent" version are you referring too?

Fox is reissuing it this Tuesday so you can pickup that version if you want too.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Once-...lu-ray/135040/

[Tech-UK]

What is the original language of this film? Is the Italian PCM mono track on the Italian release a dub, or the original track?

Yes, the video compression is pretty poor on the Italian release, but I am strangely enough, favouring that release.