The Dark Knight Rises (2012)

[Gh0stface]

I personally think Hardy should win the award. His eye work was amazing and even with half of his face covered up in a mask, he could still convince you that he is pure evil.

[Show spoiler]Not to mention, I love Bane's rage mode when his mask is broken, I love how Tom Hardy goes absolutely insane and starts making those weird snarling noises with each punch. Just a really cool scene.

But, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I don't think Javier Bardem should win it though. His character was introduced pretty late, like past halfway into the movie. So, he didn't get that much screen time compared to Bane who was introduced in the beginning of the movie. I also agree that he definitely did seem to draw inspiration from Joker. His performance was good, nothing to remember for years to come though.

Sure, Tom Hardy's performance as Bane wasn't as good as Heath Ledger's Joker, but I doubt there will be many performances in many years that rival Ledger's performance. Tom Hardy definitely gave a better performance than Scarecrow. Scarecrow was a cool character, but he was just a regular villain in a comic book movie, nothing special about his character or his performance.

This scene is where Bane's eyework is the best. Plus some awesome one liners by Bane!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvwTx1UWswQ

[metaridley]

Originally Posted by Gh0stface

I also agree that he definitely did seem to draw inspiration from Joker.

How? Be specific.

[beadelf]

Originally Posted by Lemmy Lugosi

Agreed. I sold Skyfall off after viewing it. It pains me to say it, but I'm thinking that Daniel Craig may only have one good Bond film in him, and that was the great Casino Royale.

agreed, skyfall was lame. Im really not sure what all the fuss was about. The villan was an absolute snore fest.

bond ended with goldeneye!

[JohnWayne]

Originally Posted by beadelf

agreed, skyfall was lame. Im really not sure what all the fuss was about. The villan was an absolute snore fest.

bond ended with goldeneye!

Hey not all movies are for everyone. I, for one enjoyed the heck out of both Skyfall and TDKR.

[unkie fester]

Any news on what the Ultimate trilogy will consist of yet?

[Reubania]

Originally Posted by SpartanX

Her

[Show spoiler]death

scene was bloody awful.

I think I almost spat my drink out of laughter. It was THE worst scene in the whole movie. I cringed. Don't get me wrong, I ADORE Marion as an actress, but she kinda plays the same kind of character (very similar feel and nuance to her character in "Inception" - funnily, another Nolan movie) and they could have done so much more with her in TDKR. But boy did I see the twist coming and her "acting" was almost laughable. I don't blame her of course. I blame Nolan and his brother for writing a poor character and underutilising her talents. They should be

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by unkie fester

Any news on what the Ultimate trilogy will consist of yet?

Nothing yet. There's a thread dedicated for that release, you'll probably get info a little faster in that thread.

[Early Memphis]

Originally Posted by beadelf

agreed, skyfall was lame. Im really not sure what all the fuss was about. The villan was an absolute snore fest.
bond ended with goldeneye!

You gotta be kidding , Casino Royale was frickin' GREAT!

Originally Posted by rickah88

Nothing yet. There's a thread dedicated for that release, you'll probably get info a little faster in that thread.

Got milk? No, wait, that's not it ... got a link? Signed .,. Lazy B. Me

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Early Memphis

Got milk? No, wait, that's not it ... got a link? Signed .,. Lazy B. Me

Yep, right under the "search forum" tab.

[Early Memphis]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Yep, right under the "search forum" tab.

Way, way too much like work, brother (see the name ). Sheesh, I gave you an easy layup feed to get another free post and you didn't deliver. Dang if it don't look like I've got to get a new milkman .,. Lazy B. Me (i.e., Mortimer Snerd)

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Early Memphis

Way, way too much like work, brother (see the name ). Sheesh, I gave you an easy layup feed to get another free post and you didn't deliver. Dang if it don't look like I've got to get a new milkman .,. Lazy B. Me (i.e., Mortimer Snerd)

Uhmm...yeeeah.

[SpartanX]

Originally Posted by beadelf

agreed, skyfall was lame. Im really not sure what all the fuss was about. The villan was an absolute snore fest.

bond ended with goldeneye!

Sorry, dont like how Bond's isnt campy anymore? Deal with it. Casino Royale and Skyfall are the best Bond movie of all time. U mad?

[mrpink134]

Originally Posted by SpartanX

Sorry, dont like how Bond's isnt campy anymore? Deal with it. Casino Royale and Skyfall are the best Bond movie of all time. U mad?

I liked the Craig Bonds a lot, a lot more than I did the older snore-fest cheesy Bonds, but the Nolans Bats was better

[BStecke]

Originally Posted by SpartanX

Sorry, dont like how Bond's isnt campy anymore? Deal with it. Casino Royale and Skyfall are the best Bond movie of all time. U mad?

[bttfiii]

Didn't know there was a Bond character in TDKR

[SpartanX]

Originally Posted by mrpink134

I liked the Craig Bonds a lot, a lot more than I did the older snore-fest cheesy Bonds, but the Nolans Bats was better

Yeah. I agree.

[stvn1974]

Originally Posted by bttfiii

Didn't know there was a Bond character in TDKR

Would have made it a decent film. I also prefer the new Bond trilogy to the Dark Knight trilogy.

[ManWithNoUsername]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

Would have made it a decent film. I also prefer the new Bond trilogy to the Dark Knight trilogy.

Same deal with me. I like ALL 3 new Bond's. Yes, I liked Quantum, but with the TDK trilogy, I was very disappointed in Rises. Its not even really a Batman movie IMO. Yes Batman is in it, but its just a Michael Bay style disaster film.

I do like the first 45 mins, but after that it falls off a cliff for me. BAsically every time I get to the typical Michael Bay scene ("Get the president on the line"), I turn it off and have no interest in the rest of the movie. Its really dull.

So yeah, new Bonds > new Bats for me.

[GuruAskew]

TDKR is a bigger failure than QoS. On their own merits QoS is flat-out superior as a film but it also gets a break for being a troubled production whereas TDKR had no such handicap and managed to disappoint.

I think QoS falling between two of the best Bond movies ever is going to further harm it already-shaky reputation but its substantially better than a good chunk of the Bond films of the past regardless of what the Internet hive mind has decided.

Defending TDKR, on the other hand, is also largely a product if said hive mind. There is an undeniable residual fanboyism that goes back from before the film was even released. "In Nolan We Trust" and all that nonsense.

To a point the people who preordered tickets to 10 different showings before they ever saw the film are always gonna be there treating it like a misunderstood masterpiece but less then a year later the tide has definitely turned whether the fans will admit it or not. TDKR failed as a trilogy-ender just as badly as so many have before it.

This whole idea of cramming Batman into a trilogy is the most demonstrable evidence of Nolan's misunderstanding of (at best, and contempt for, at worse) the character because there is no ending to the Batman story, especially not one that satisfied everyone, and certainly not one that involves the character retiring happily.

There's a reason why people have accepted The Dark Knight Returns and Batman Beyond: they portray an older version of the character whose ideals are strong even as his physical body weakens. No Batman fan wants to see him happily sipping coffee in an Italian cafe. But that's what you get when a self-loathing fanbase lines up to kiss the ass of a pretentious director who will happily strip away iconography like the Batsignal and the Batcave, not to mention his barely-Batmobile. If Nolan could have gotten away with getting rid of the cape and cowl he probably would have too. And all of these immature nerds who were tired of seeing "boring grown-up films" recognized by the Hollywood establishment loved him for it.

But no, Nolan sat on a beloved character for 8 years and stripped away those iconic and defining features so he could put the character in a bunch of meandering Michael Mann and Bond "homages" set against shiny buildings.

And now that he's done and his trilogy stands as a complete statement with a beginning, a middle and an end people are starting to see that it for the flawed and inept piece of filmmaking that it really is.

Warner Bros. has basically thrown the four previous Batman films under the bus (some more deservedly than others) and hung all their hopes on this overrated trilogy and its causing them headaches now as they need to copy what Marvel/Disney are doing and they have to reconcile TDKR's ridiculous ending with their Justice League movie. None of this would have been happening if they would have done what they've been doing on Bond for years: rolling with the punches, learning from their mistakes and understanding that if people don't like the most recent Bond film that they just need to get it right the next time, and it's a lot easier and more effective to plug that constantly-evolving Batman (and Superman, for that matter) into a team movie.

[Early Memphis]

I'm not a fan of TDKR, in that I didn't feel it was as good as the first two Dark Knight flicks, but to write it off as completely as some are doing is BS - and I'm neither a Nolan fanboy nor an immature nerd (and I never paid a nickel to see it in a theater either). It's a pity that some "immature nerds" can't simply state their opinion and be satisfied with that instead of having to insult any and everyone who might not be in complete lock step with them (Sieg Heil! ) - but then, that's pretty much the definition of immature, isn't it?