Grindhouse: Special Edition- October 5 - Page 33 - Blu-ray Forum

Tech-UK · 09-24-2010, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by wormraper

you're right, I wonder what the bitrate for the lossy track is too. on some of their releases Vivendi has only done 448 kbps lossy instead of the standard 640 kbps

It is only 448kbps.

wormraper · 09-24-2010, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Tech-UK

It is only 448kbps.

holy F@cking sh!tballs!!!! now that is TOTALLY unacceptable!!! 100% dvd audio. complete bullsh!t!!! Ok, Now I'm honestly pissed. I was considering keeping my $13.99 pre-order from Amazon but no way in Hell am I going to knowingly pay money for this now!!!

thanks for taking the time to look man. I know I and many others out there appreciate the heads up before we actually bought this

DetroitSportsFan · 09-24-2010, 12:41 PM

You've got to be kidding me.

tilallr1 · 09-24-2010, 12:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tech-UK

It is only 448kbps.

Holy #$%*

Wow this release is all sorts of wrong.

By the way ... thanks Tech-UK for letting us know.

BladeRunner2007 · 09-24-2010, 12:43 PM

I'll just stick to my Japanese 6-Disc DVD Set then

Tech-UK · 09-24-2010, 12:44 PM

wormraper, I appricate your comment thank you

. I too am a little pissed off about this.

tilallr1 · 09-24-2010, 12:46 PM

Does anyone know of an email where we can voice our concerns.

steve_dave · 09-24-2010, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by tilallr1

Is it because they didn't have room you think? Its 191 min film, so that's over 3 hours. Can they not put a plus 3 hr film on a 50GB blu-ray with lossless audio? I thought they could.

Gone With The Wind is 238mins with Dolby TrueHD English 5.1, Dolby Digital English 5.1, and Dolby Digital English Mono.

But wait there's more... the film also has supplemental Dolby Digital French 5.1, Dolby Digital Spanish 5.1 & Mono, Dolby Digital German 5.1, Dolby Digital Italian 5.1, Dolby Digital Portuguese Mono, and Dolby Digital Japanese Mono tracks.

That's 10 audio tracks on one BD-50.

Going by the pictures posted, Grindhouse only limps by with two audio tracks: Dolby Digital English and French 5.1.

Tech-UK · 09-24-2010, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tilallr1

Does anyone know of an email where we can voice our concerns.

I was just thinking about this myself. Even if there wasn't anymore room on the BD-50! I would of preferred to have a lossless track over a few extras which they could of squeezed onto the second disc.

carloshabermann · 09-24-2010, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tech-UK

It is only 448kbps.

Audio aside, what subitles are there on the disc?

sapphire_nick · 09-24-2010, 12:52 PM

No way! I was so gutted by this news.

I have now stepped in and cancelled my Amazon USA order. I was one of those who got it for the $13.99 price, but no HD audio is absurd given that the separate releases have great soundtracks.

Am hoping the UK release has it, but somehow I am not confident. Shame!
Thanks for sharing the info, though.

Tech-UK · 09-24-2010, 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve_dave

Gone With The Wind is 238mins with Dolby TrueHD English 5.1, Dolby Digital English 5.1, and Dolby Digital English Mono.

But wait there's more... the film also has supplemental Dolby Digital French 5.1, Dolby Digital Spanish 5.1 & Mono, Dolby Digital German 5.1, Dolby Digital Italian 5.1, Dolby Digital Portuguese Mono, and Dolby Digital Japanese Mono tracks.

That's 10 audio tracks on one BD-50.

Going by the pictures posted, Grindhouse only limps by with two audio tracks: Dolby Digital English and French 5.1.

Thanks for the info Steve. Wonder what excuss is going to be made for this one

. "Oh sorry we could not be bothered to include a lossless track".

Tech-UK · 09-24-2010, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carloshabermann

Audio aside, what subitles are there on the disc?

English/French DD 5.1 and English/Spanish subtitles. I think this is it. Will check again later.

integrafied1 · 09-24-2010, 12:57 PM

Sucks to hear about the audio...the packaging looks so nice though

carloshabermann · 09-24-2010, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tech-UK

English/French DD 5.1 and English/Spanish subtitles. I think this is it. Will check again later.

Thanks.

bigrob · 09-24-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sapphire_nick

No way! I was so gutted by this news.

I have now stepped in and cancelled my Amazon USA order. I was one of those who got it for the $13.99 price, but no HD audio is absurd given that the separate releases have great soundtracks.

Am hoping the UK release has it, but somehow I am not confident. Shame!
Thanks for sharing the info, though.

the press release from Momentum releases also states Dolby Digital 5.1

i thought it was a misprint

Chepu · 09-24-2010, 01:08 PM

I can't wait

Riff Magnum · 09-24-2010, 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KRiTiC

why is sound more important?

using the work "important" loosly

Not really more important, but if you're familiar with these movies they both have great soundtracks and lots of action, so great sound is a must. Combine that with the fact that many of us already have the single versions (with lossless sound) and it gets harder and harder to double dip for that cool package and the extra trailers. I'm not too sure why they skimped on the video encode either, although none of us probably would've noticed anyways.

PowellPressburger · 09-24-2010, 01:18 PM

I can't believe Q.T. or R.R. wasn't consulted about this release not having uncompressed audio! This is not acceptable at all. I guess I get to spend less money on Oct 5th then. I have to many other films to buy that day anyhow.

Beauty and the Beast, The Exorcist, Secret Life of Kells, Maltese Falcon, Treasure of the S. M., Year without Santa Claus (I think it has uncompressed audio!) Troll 2, Oceans 11 (Original) and some DVDs Season 7 of Mary Tyler Moore, Slumber Party Massacre, The Evil/Twice Dead.

Vivendi will become not very liked for blu-ray releases because of low quality audio.

There needs to be an industry standard or the film shouldn't be allowed to be released.

BaronVH · 09-24-2010, 01:36 PM

This is a quote from Vivendi's website: "Our company’s strategic vision is driven by the needs of the consumer. We are committed to anticipating these needs and building consumer loyalty as we create and deliver high-quality services and products that satisfy consumers around the world."

If that is truly the case, then they need to either do a recall or disc exchange like other companies have done when issues like this have arisen. Disney did it for Pirates of the Carribean, Paramount did it for Gladiator and Saving Private Ryan. There are many other examples as well. If the position of the company is as it states above, then that is the least they can do.

It is not like the soundtrack does not exist, as it is on the individual releases, and it is relatively new theatrical release. I, too, thought the packaging was nice, but I would prefer the disc to come in a brown paper sack if that is what it takes for a lossless soundtrack. I can make my own packaging.

View Poll Results: This does NOT have lossless audio. Are you still buying it?
YES, I can overlook the lack of lossless audio	433	60.81%
NO, I expect lossless audio on a Blu-Ray release in 2010	279	39.19%
Voters: 712. You may not vote on this poll

09-24-2010, 01:18 PM	#659
PowellPressburger Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:DIFFERENT PLACES! Minneapolis 4K collection:1000 Blu-ray collection:3682 DVD collection:359 Blu-ray reviews: 51 Trading Score:297	I can't believe Q.T. or R.R. wasn't consulted about this release not having uncompressed audio! This is not acceptable at all. I guess I get to spend less money on Oct 5th then. I have to many other films to buy that day anyhow. Beauty and the Beast, The Exorcist, Secret Life of Kells, Maltese Falcon, Treasure of the S. M., Year without Santa Claus (I think it has uncompressed audio!) Troll 2, Oceans 11 (Original) and some DVDs Season 7 of Mary Tyler Moore, Slumber Party Massacre, The Evil/Twice Dead. Vivendi will become not very liked for blu-ray releases because of low quality audio. There needs to be an industry standard or the film shouldn't be allowed to be released. Last edited by PowellPressburger; 09-24-2010 at 01:25 PM.

09-24-2010, 12:41 PM	#643
DetroitSportsFan Hot Deals Moderator Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Michigan 4K collection:439 Blu-ray collection:2226 Trading Score:93	You've got to be kidding me.

09-24-2010, 12:43 PM	#645
BladeRunner2007 Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Oct 2009 Location:Germany 4K collection:58 Blu-ray collection:1031 Blu-ray reviews:3	I'll just stick to my Japanese 6-Disc DVD Set then

09-24-2010, 12:44 PM	#646
Tech-UK Blu-ray Ninja Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Sep 2010 Location:UK Home Theater Gallery:96 4K collection:215 Blu-ray collection:1169 Blu-ray reviews: 20 Trading Score:23	wormraper, I appricate your comment thank you . I too am a little pissed off about this.

09-24-2010, 12:46 PM	#647
tilallr1 Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Great White North Home Theater Gallery:410 4K collection:78 Blu-ray collection:2009 DVD collection:2598 Blu-ray reviews: 33 Trading Score:248	Does anyone know of an email where we can voice our concerns.

09-24-2010, 12:52 PM	#651
sapphire_nick Expert Member Member since:May 2009 Blu-ray collection:13	No way! I was so gutted by this news. I have now stepped in and cancelled my Amazon USA order. I was one of those who got it for the $13.99 price, but no HD audio is absurd given that the separate releases have great soundtracks. Am hoping the UK release has it, but somehow I am not confident. Shame! Thanks for sharing the info, though.

09-24-2010, 12:57 PM	#654
integrafied1 Special Member Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Hollywood Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:445 DVD collection:7 Trading Score:27	Sucks to hear about the audio...the packaging looks so nice though

09-24-2010, 01:08 PM	#657
Chepu Junior Member Member since:Apr 2010	I can't wait

09-24-2010, 01:36 PM	#660
BaronVH Power Member Member since:Oct 2007	This is a quote from Vivendi's website: "Our company’s strategic vision is driven by the needs of the consumer. We are committed to anticipating these needs and building consumer loyalty as we create and deliver high-quality services and products that satisfy consumers around the world." If that is truly the case, then they need to either do a recall or disc exchange like other companies have done when issues like this have arisen. Disney did it for Pirates of the Carribean, Paramount did it for Gladiator and Saving Private Ryan. There are many other examples as well. If the position of the company is as it states above, then that is the least they can do. It is not like the soundtrack does not exist, as it is on the individual releases, and it is relatively new theatrical release. I, too, thought the packaging was nice, but I would prefer the disc to come in a brown paper sack if that is what it takes for a lossless soundtrack. I can make my own packaging.

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