Who Framed Roger Rabbit (1988) (25th Anniversary Edition) - Page 33 - Blu-ray Forum

Love Blu-Ray · 03-02-2013, 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FruityOatyBar

Not too happy with this BD packaging. I'll be keeping my BD in the 2 disc DVD box (minus the colorful slip cover though).

I seriously doubt it, but are the BDs themselves themed as well as the old DVDs? The film reel look fits this movie perfectly.

Awesome news about the HD Roger shorts! Can't wait to see this movie shine in HD.

I never seen the discs before, those looks sweet! I wish they could have used those discs for the blu-ray

dvdmike · 03-02-2013, 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mason_Ireton

What's wrong with the picture quality?

Its an old HDTV transfer not the 4k new scan the film deserves

BenjaminG · 03-02-2013, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dvdmike

Its an old HDTV transfer not the 4k new scan the film deserves

This is simply not true. It looks nothing like the HDTV source. I've gone through many comparisons. There is a complete lack of film artefacts for one. The old master is riddled with them.

Indiana Jones · 03-02-2013, 01:09 PM

Code:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     WHO_FRAMED_ROGER_RABBIT
Disc Size:      43,966,821,496 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00800.MPLS
Length:                 1:43:45.761 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   31,039,107,072 bytes
Total Bitrate:          39.88 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        31790 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

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-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         4004 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 4004 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             French          640 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Russian         320 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 320 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps

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-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         42.628 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          27.335 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         32.332 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Russian         30.107 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      30.719 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         90.244 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          65.078 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         67.909 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Russian         80.733 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      75.977 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          0.656 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Russian         0.329 kbps                      
* Presentation Graphics         English         90.704 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         French          40.537 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Spanish         41.481 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Russian         40.104 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Portuguese      39.084 kbps                     

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Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00800.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:43:45.761     31,039,107,072  39,885          

CHAPTERS:

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2               0:05:33.458     0:04:11.167     32,894 kbps     34,315 kbps     00:09:10.341    33,337 kbps     00:05:34.208    33,276 kbps     00:07:34.912    171,494 bytes   215,524 bytes   00:05:38.838    
3               0:09:44.625     0:04:21.511     33,191 kbps     34,054 kbps     00:11:08.000    33,369 kbps     00:11:03.996    33,298 kbps     00:10:58.991    173,045 bytes   224,969 bytes   00:11:08.709    
4               0:14:06.136     0:06:34.477     30,794 kbps     33,607 kbps     00:16:14.723    33,263 kbps     00:14:08.055    32,759 kbps     00:14:06.178    160,546 bytes   217,979 bytes   00:15:52.117    
5               0:20:40.614     0:08:12.408     32,335 kbps     34,485 kbps     00:27:36.696    33,416 kbps     00:27:32.650    33,280 kbps     00:27:27.687    168,579 bytes   231,941 bytes   00:28:15.694    
6               0:28:53.022     0:05:14.105     32,136 kbps     33,972 kbps     00:30:47.053    33,349 kbps     00:29:01.197    33,244 kbps     00:28:56.151    167,542 bytes   276,843 bytes   00:30:36.835    
7               0:34:07.128     0:07:04.966     32,023 kbps     34,094 kbps     00:39:48.594    33,318 kbps     00:36:03.828    33,280 kbps     00:35:58.823    166,953 bytes   238,665 bytes   00:35:40.596    
8               0:41:12.094     0:05:15.898     31,755 kbps     33,785 kbps     00:45:40.028    33,310 kbps     00:46:12.019    33,203 kbps     00:46:07.806    165,557 bytes   228,661 bytes   00:42:33.217    
9               0:46:27.993     0:03:08.897     32,467 kbps     35,903 kbps     00:46:28.410    33,346 kbps     00:48:39.333    33,274 kbps     00:48:39.333    169,270 bytes   216,089 bytes   00:46:28.994    
10              0:49:36.890     0:07:37.123     31,819 kbps     34,944 kbps     00:57:06.631    33,331 kbps     00:55:14.310    33,252 kbps     00:52:12.420    165,889 bytes   223,876 bytes   00:53:12.189    
11              0:57:14.013     0:06:19.420     32,002 kbps     35,913 kbps     00:59:02.413    33,677 kbps     00:59:26.479    33,384 kbps     00:59:21.599    166,845 bytes   256,561 bytes   00:58:35.386    
12              1:03:33.434     0:03:50.939     32,486 kbps     34,742 kbps     01:05:03.357    33,609 kbps     01:05:03.357    33,303 kbps     01:06:30.069    169,367 bytes   224,085 bytes   01:05:04.066    
13              1:07:24.373     0:04:44.409     31,497 kbps     34,472 kbps     01:07:35.009    33,345 kbps     01:08:14.507    33,270 kbps     01:08:12.338    164,212 bytes   235,076 bytes   01:08:18.010    
14              1:12:08.782     0:04:37.026     31,385 kbps     34,408 kbps     01:15:29.608    33,440 kbps     01:13:02.127    33,330 kbps     01:12:57.122    163,627 bytes   319,531 bytes   01:15:30.400    
15              1:16:45.809     0:05:20.111     32,240 kbps     35,219 kbps     01:21:14.411    33,424 kbps     01:21:10.407    33,319 kbps     01:21:05.402    168,084 bytes   227,393 bytes   01:21:12.534    
16              1:22:05.921     0:06:43.111     32,051 kbps     34,894 kbps     01:25:11.439    33,597 kbps     01:24:46.748    33,232 kbps     01:28:16.291    167,099 bytes   246,890 bytes   01:24:51.544    
17              1:28:49.032     0:05:34.167     32,230 kbps     34,492 kbps     01:32:22.286    33,330 kbps     01:32:44.392    33,249 kbps     01:33:05.079    168,033 bytes   243,919 bytes   01:33:58.883    
18              1:34:23.199     0:09:22.561     29,757 kbps     43,442 kbps     01:43:39.630    34,836 kbps     01:43:35.834    33,680 kbps     01:36:46.967    155,153 bytes   418,681 bytes   01:43:40.339    

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----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
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00800.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           6225.678                4,004                   3,115,909,220   17,897,730      
00800.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            AC3             fra (French)            6225.678                640                     498,063,360     2,918,340       
00800.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             rus (Russian)           6225.678                320                     249,031,680     1,556,448       
00800.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           6225.678                192                     149,419,008     972,780         
00800.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6225.678                43                      33,174,137      190,633         
00800.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6225.678                27                      21,272,843      122,623         
00800.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           6225.678                32                      25,161,287      144,183         
00800.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            PGS             rus (Russian)           6225.678                30                      23,429,913      134,140         
00800.M2TS      4612 (0x1204)   0x90            PGS             por (Portuguese)        6225.678                31                      23,905,800      137,495         
00800.M2TS      4613 (0x1205)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6225.678                90                      70,229,775      397,545         
00800.M2TS      4614 (0x1206)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6225.678                65                      50,644,941      289,782         
00800.M2TS      4615 (0x1207)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           6225.678                68                      52,847,770      301,757         
00800.M2TS      4616 (0x1208)   0x90            PGS             rus (Russian)           6225.678                81                      62,828,407      355,962         
00800.M2TS      4617 (0x1209)   0x90            PGS             por (Portuguese)        6225.678                76                      59,127,095      335,909         
00800.M2TS      4618 (0x120A)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6225.678                1                       510,159         2,927           
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00800.M2TS      4624 (0x1210)   0x90            PGS             por (Portuguese)        6225.678                39                      30,415,637      168,246

zoran · 03-02-2013, 05:08 PM

I thought some one did post steel packaging

Matthias77 · 03-02-2013, 10:56 PM

I've decided to hold off on this just like I did with Dick Tracy. Way too expensive for what you get...nothing new. Great, the pq & aq are better (as they should be on a new format), but that shouldn't necessitate such a high price. Maybe when it drops to $15 I'll get it ($8 for Tracy).

mzupeman · 03-03-2013, 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matthias77

I've decided to hold off on this just like I did with Dick Tracy. Way too expensive for what you get...nothing new. Great, the pq & aq are better (as they should be on a new format), but that shouldn't necessitate such a high price. Maybe when it drops to $15 I'll get it ($8 for Tracy).

Which is exactly why studios often decide to go with old transfers for catalog releases nowadays - They know this mindset is out there, won't make a ton of money on the release, and thus will release a 'less than' product.

jkh206 · 03-03-2013, 12:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Indiana Jones

Code:

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     WHO_FRAMED_ROGER_RABBIT
Disc Size:      43,966,821,496 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        Yes
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00800.MPLS
Length:                 1:43:45.761 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   31,039,107,072 bytes
Total Bitrate:          39.88 Mbps

(*) Indicates included stream hidden by this playlist.

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        31790 kbps          1080p / 23.976 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         4004 kbps       5.1 / 48 kHz / 4004 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)
Dolby Digital Audio             French          640 kbps        5.1 / 48 kHz / 640 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             Russian         320 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 320 kbps
Dolby Digital Audio             English         192 kbps        2.0 / 48 kHz / 192 kbps

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         42.628 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          27.335 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         32.332 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Russian         30.107 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      30.719 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           English         90.244 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          65.078 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Spanish         67.909 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Russian         80.733 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           Portuguese      75.977 kbps                     
Presentation Graphics           French          0.656 kbps                      
Presentation Graphics           Russian         0.329 kbps                      
* Presentation Graphics         English         90.704 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         French          40.537 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Spanish         41.481 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Russian         40.104 kbps                     
* Presentation Graphics         Portuguese      39.084 kbps                     

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Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00800.M2TS      0:00:00.000     1:43:45.761     31,039,107,072  39,885          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
1               0:00:00.000     0:05:33.458     31,322 kbps     39,292 kbps     00:00:45.587    34,229 kbps     00:00:37.620    33,751 kbps     00:00:32.615    163,280 bytes   438,389 bytes   00:00:46.379    
2               0:05:33.458     0:04:11.167     32,894 kbps     34,315 kbps     00:09:10.341    33,337 kbps     00:05:34.208    33,276 kbps     00:07:34.912    171,494 bytes   215,524 bytes   00:05:38.838    
3               0:09:44.625     0:04:21.511     33,191 kbps     34,054 kbps     00:11:08.000    33,369 kbps     00:11:03.996    33,298 kbps     00:10:58.991    173,045 bytes   224,969 bytes   00:11:08.709    
4               0:14:06.136     0:06:34.477     30,794 kbps     33,607 kbps     00:16:14.723    33,263 kbps     00:14:08.055    32,759 kbps     00:14:06.178    160,546 bytes   217,979 bytes   00:15:52.117    
5               0:20:40.614     0:08:12.408     32,335 kbps     34,485 kbps     00:27:36.696    33,416 kbps     00:27:32.650    33,280 kbps     00:27:27.687    168,579 bytes   231,941 bytes   00:28:15.694    
6               0:28:53.022     0:05:14.105     32,136 kbps     33,972 kbps     00:30:47.053    33,349 kbps     00:29:01.197    33,244 kbps     00:28:56.151    167,542 bytes   276,843 bytes   00:30:36.835    
7               0:34:07.128     0:07:04.966     32,023 kbps     34,094 kbps     00:39:48.594    33,318 kbps     00:36:03.828    33,280 kbps     00:35:58.823    166,953 bytes   238,665 bytes   00:35:40.596    
8               0:41:12.094     0:05:15.898     31,755 kbps     33,785 kbps     00:45:40.028    33,310 kbps     00:46:12.019    33,203 kbps     00:46:07.806    165,557 bytes   228,661 bytes   00:42:33.217    
9               0:46:27.993     0:03:08.897     32,467 kbps     35,903 kbps     00:46:28.410    33,346 kbps     00:48:39.333    33,274 kbps     00:48:39.333    169,270 bytes   216,089 bytes   00:46:28.994    
10              0:49:36.890     0:07:37.123     31,819 kbps     34,944 kbps     00:57:06.631    33,331 kbps     00:55:14.310    33,252 kbps     00:52:12.420    165,889 bytes   223,876 bytes   00:53:12.189    
11              0:57:14.013     0:06:19.420     32,002 kbps     35,913 kbps     00:59:02.413    33,677 kbps     00:59:26.479    33,384 kbps     00:59:21.599    166,845 bytes   256,561 bytes   00:58:35.386    
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14              1:12:08.782     0:04:37.026     31,385 kbps     34,408 kbps     01:15:29.608    33,440 kbps     01:13:02.127    33,330 kbps     01:12:57.122    163,627 bytes   319,531 bytes   01:15:30.400    
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File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00800.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     6225.678                31,790                  24,739,564,801  134,546,558     
00800.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           6225.678                4,004                   3,115,909,220   17,897,730      
00800.M2TS      4353 (0x1101)   0x81            AC3             fra (French)            6225.678                640                     498,063,360     2,918,340       
00800.M2TS      4354 (0x1102)   0x81            AC3             rus (Russian)           6225.678                320                     249,031,680     1,556,448       
00800.M2TS      4355 (0x1103)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           6225.678                192                     149,419,008     972,780         
00800.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6225.678                43                      33,174,137      190,633         
00800.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6225.678                27                      21,272,843      122,623         
00800.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           6225.678                32                      25,161,287      144,183         
00800.M2TS      4611 (0x1203)   0x90            PGS             rus (Russian)           6225.678                30                      23,429,913      134,140         
00800.M2TS      4612 (0x1204)   0x90            PGS             por (Portuguese)        6225.678                31                      23,905,800      137,495         
00800.M2TS      4613 (0x1205)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6225.678                90                      70,229,775      397,545         
00800.M2TS      4614 (0x1206)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6225.678                65                      50,644,941      289,782         
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00800.M2TS      4616 (0x1208)   0x90            PGS             rus (Russian)           6225.678                81                      62,828,407      355,962         
00800.M2TS      4617 (0x1209)   0x90            PGS             por (Portuguese)        6225.678                76                      59,127,095      335,909         
00800.M2TS      4618 (0x120A)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6225.678                1                       510,159         2,927           
00800.M2TS      4619 (0x120B)   0x90            PGS             rus (Russian)           6225.678                0                       255,763         1,513           
00800.M2TS      4620 (0x120C)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           6225.678                91                      70,587,681      387,194         
00800.M2TS      4621 (0x120D)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            6225.678                41                      31,546,494      174,416         
00800.M2TS      4622 (0x120E)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           6225.678                41                      32,281,734      178,426         
00800.M2TS      4623 (0x120F)   0x90            PGS             rus (Russian)           6225.678                40                      31,209,457      172,580         
00800.M2TS      4624 (0x1210)   0x90            PGS             por (Portuguese)        6225.678                39                      30,415,637      168,246

I don't know what any of this means. Pardon my ignorance but can someone put this into plain English for me.

PuppyJonathan · 03-03-2013, 12:28 AM

Is it weird that there is no Spanish or Portugese audio but they have subtitles? Spanish is almost always common

SGB · 03-03-2013, 01:28 AM

I see DVD/BD comparison screenshots have just appeared at caps-a-holic.com:

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...n.php?cID=1571

Very disappointing to see the blu-ray seems to have been hit with the teal and orange crap.

The Edge · 03-03-2013, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mzupeman

Which is exactly why studios often decide to go with old transfers for catalog releases nowadays - They know this mindset is out there, won't make a ton of money on the release, and thus will release a 'less than' product.

So people with that mindset are screwing over the rest of the potential buyers. Great.

joenostalgia23 · 03-03-2013, 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGB

I see DVD/BD comparison screenshots have just appeared at caps-a-holic.com:

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...n.php?cID=1571

Very disappointing to see the blu-ray seems to have been hit with the teal and orange crap.

Really? I feel like the DVD leans a lot closer to teal. Compared to the Blu-ray, it look a bit more "greener" and based on every Remastered thread I've gone through, "purists" would much prefer a film looking pink than green.

My only issue is that the BD looks a little dim and a teensy bit too warm. But the grain is intact and the detail is extraordinary. The contrast and color saturation is much better than the previous DVDs, looks far more natural. I'm quite excited for this.

Dotpattern · 03-03-2013, 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SGB

Very disappointing to see the blu-ray seems to have been hit with the teal and orange crap.

Why is that crap? Is there some reason to believe the DVD color is accurate to the film and how it's supposed to look?

42041 · 03-03-2013, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SGB

I see DVD/BD comparison screenshots have just appeared at caps-a-holic.com:

http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...n.php?cID=1571

Very disappointing to see the blu-ray seems to have been hit with the teal and orange crap.

No, it hasn't.

Looks pretty good to me, for what it is. That's not the old HDTV master.

joenostalgia23 · 03-03-2013, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mzupeman

Which is exactly why studios often decide to go with old transfers for catalog releases nowadays - They know this mindset is out there, won't make a ton of money on the release, and thus will release a 'less than' product.

Yeah The Terminator's Remastered BD came out recently, and while it was just $13 on Amazon, people were still holding off until it was under $8.

I can understand why they wouldn't spend the money on new features or fancier packaging and why, despite the fact that they've had this 4K remaster for years, they've held off releasing it this whole time while reissuing the 2006 in new packaging for bargain bin prices. And I can see why MGM wouldn't spend the money to remaster the rest of the 007 films(like Goldeneye) since a lot of people wouldn't buy their excellently remastered Bond's until they were under $10 or bundled together for $50. It's not worth the effort, and it seems like the only times a really great film gets what it deserves is when it truly is seen as a masterpiece by the studio.

I don't know anything about the master used on HFRR but based on the screenshots, I think it looks great. If it's an old master, Disney was using a damned good source.

joenostalgia23 · 03-03-2013, 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Dotpattern

Why is that crap? Is there some reason to believe the DVD color is accurate to the film and how it's supposed to look?

Exactly.

Compare the screenshots #02, #03 , and #10.
The Blu-ray has much more natural colors.

The contrast is overblown in #02, and there's a light green tint. The text on the Herman Sherman's poster is much closer to white on the Blu-ray. The skintones are yellowish and the walls look much more like beige on the BD, while the walls seem to border on seafoam in the DVD.

In #03 it is way oversaturated and everything looks too yellow. The red car looks more like an orangish brown, the shy is tinted yellow, and it makes the scene look like it's taking place at a completely different hour of day.

And in #10, the foam looks pretty unnatural on the DVD. The foam wouldn't look that dark and that intensely yellow in real-life.

This is why I hate when people compare Blu-ray's to DVDs, as if DVDs would be the definitive source of reference for a Blu-ray.

SGB · 03-03-2013, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by joenostalgia23

This is why I hate when people compare Blu-ray's to DVDs, as if DVDs would be the definitive source of reference for a Blu-ray.

For the record, I'm not claiming the DVD is reference source for how the blu-ray should look. The DVD clearly has issues of it's own.

BluRayWish108p · 03-03-2013, 05:02 AM

Oh Boy!

I can't wait to get my hands on this Blu ray this month!

I just wish Disney would have spent some time and money on a New Blu Ray cover box image. The image is the same one from the 2 disc dvd Only that they shrunk the artwork and surrounded it with Red borders.

Well maybe The Blu ray discs will have art on them. I hope it's not the same type of discs with the Blue background that has the title of the film printed in white letters that Disney has been releasing recently to save money

Beating a dead horse... bringing up/asking something that has been discussed a thousand times before

Drewbee87 · 03-03-2013, 05:06 AM

@BluRayWish108p

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Originally Posted by Indiana Jones

Discs are coloured just like standard Disney releases, blue for the BD and grey for the DVD

Starman22 · 03-03-2013, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by BluRayWish108p

Nice backcover!

03-03-2013, 05:02 AM	#658
BluRayWish108p Senior Member Member since:Jun 2012	Oh Boy! I can't wait to get my hands on this Blu ray this month! I just wish Disney would have spent some time and money on a New Blu Ray cover box image. The image is the same one from the 2 disc dvd Only that they shrunk the artwork and surrounded it with Red borders. Well maybe The Blu ray discs will have art on them. I hope it's not the same type of discs with the Blue background that has the title of the film printed in white letters that Disney has been releasing recently to save money Last edited by BluRayWish108p; 03-04-2013 at 01:09 AM.

03-02-2013, 05:08 PM	#645
zoran Senior Member Member since:Feb 2010	I thought some one did post steel packaging

03-02-2013, 10:56 PM	#646
Matthias77 Member Member since:Nov 2010 4K collection:7 Blu-ray collection:443 Blu-ray reviews:1	I've decided to hold off on this just like I did with Dick Tracy. Way too expensive for what you get...nothing new. Great, the pq & aq are better (as they should be on a new format), but that shouldn't necessitate such a high price. Maybe when it drops to $15 I'll get it ($8 for Tracy).

03-03-2013, 12:28 AM	#649
PuppyJonathan Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Apr 2012 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:67 DVD collection:75	Is it weird that there is no Spanish or Portugese audio but they have subtitles? Spanish is almost always common

03-03-2013, 01:28 AM	#650
SGB Special Member Member since:Oct 2012 Location:Australia 4K collection:197 Blu-ray collection:823 DVD collection:267 Trading Score:6	I see DVD/BD comparison screenshots have just appeared at caps-a-holic.com: http://caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergleich...n.php?cID=1571 Very disappointing to see the blu-ray seems to have been hit with the teal and orange crap.

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