The Incredibles 4K UHD (2004)

[samlop10]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

EX is matrixed.
ES is discrete.

Originally Posted by Dubstar

you're preaching to the choir here.

That’s not quite true.

EX is Dolby’s format and ES is DTS’s. They have different names simply because they’re formats for an additional channel from different companies before 7.1 was a thing. Dolby always had EX as an additional matrix’ed surround channel and DTS had ES as an additional channel, sometimes discrete and sometimes matrix’ed.

One of the first DVD editions of Titanic had its audio remix as a 5.1 Dolby Digital EX, later the DVD special edition added a discrete DTS-ES 6.1 mix. The audio on The Incredibles has a DTS-HD MA ES Matrix 5.1 mix.

[MD-Blu]

My 4K copy was delivered today and I normally don’t care for slipcovers, but I really like it. I’m rewatching this in 4K tomorrow night.

[Hardback247]

I'm not so sure of how much an improvement the 4K version is, so I would like someone to please provide comparison screencaps, if it's okay.

[El Rey]

The DC doesn't redeem UHD anywhere does it?

[jh901]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Seven of them:

1. Age of Ultron
2. Winter Soldier

3. Coco
4. Ragnarok
5. The Last Jedi
6. Black Panther
7. Incredibles

Is this the official update to Disney's surround sound wall of shame?

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For the record, if I'm not mistaken, the first two feature DTS-HD MA 7.1 with no object-based option.

Coco 1080P Blu has DTS-HD MA 7.1, but the 4K has Dolby TrueHD 7.1 with the optional object-based (Atmos).

[KMan2100]

Originally Posted by El Rey

The DC doesn't redeem UHD anywhere does it?

You'll get UHD rights if you redeem on Movies Anywhere. My HDX copy on VUDU was upgraded to UHD shortly after redeeming the new code.

[El Rey]

Great news, thanks!

[IXOYE1989]

Originally Posted by Mr. Hyphen

My Walmart also didn’t have it on the front case but the spot was on the side with the 4Ks but there was none on the shelf so I looked online and it said they had it in stock so I asked an employee if they could look for me and said he didn’t feel like it so I ordered it for in store pick up right in front of him, it’s been 5 hours no and my order still isn’t ready

You should have complained to the manager about their employee not doing their job. Should have gotten fired from the spot.

[Deric2014]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Seven of them:

1. Age of Ultron
2. Winter Soldier

3. Coco
4. Ragnarok
5. The Last Jedi
6. Black Panther
7. Incredibles

Captain America Winter Soldier had good sound in my opinion.

Ant-Man had crappy audio to say the least.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by jh901

Is this the official update to Disney's surround sound wall of shame?

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For the record, if I'm not mistaken, the first two feature DTS-HD MA 7.1 with no object-based option.

Coco 1080P Blu has DTS-HD MA 7.1, but the 4K has Dolby TrueHD 7.1 with the optional object-based (Atmos).

Official, are you kidding me; it's my own list from my own experience in surround sound.

* And that's why I separated the two first ones by a blank space.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Deric2014

Captain America Winter Soldier had good sound in my opinion.

Ant-Man had crappy audio to say the least.

They're not as bad as the ones with Dolby Atmos, but they are still missing some...10%

[Bdsje3]

Originally Posted by ThomasFMaher

The regular blu ray does have the teaser trailer for Incredibles 2 with Jack-Jack. That’s it.

Can you tell me how the regular Blu-ray starts up like in order please.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by badboi

Apparently you do as well.

Of course I do, I'm a big Incredibles fan.

[Nothing371]

Originally Posted by Bdsje3

Can you tell me how the regular Blu-ray starts up like in order please.

oh god, it's back.

[samlop10]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

I'm not so sure of how much an improvement the 4K version is, so I would like someone to please provide comparison screencaps, if it's okay.

You won’t be able to make a good comparison using screencaps since for the UHD they would have to get converted to SDR and a different color gamut, which automatically negates two of the three benefits of UHD: better dynamic range, better colors, and better definition.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

you're preaching to the choir here.

dts-ES 5.1 matrix and dts-ES 6.1 discrete ... I just refreshed my memory by looking in my instructions manual. • https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-dts-es-1846890

With auro3d dtsX and atmouse we are allowed to have gaps of memory and work together for a better world.

[Hardback247]

Is it just me, or did the quality of the CG hair look a little better?

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by cynatnite

Just finished watching and wanted to post a few quick thoughts.

The PQ was great. It really shined especially the green of the leaves and the water. I've never watched it on BD so I don't know how it does comparison-wise. Either way, I loved the PQ.

I'm no audiophile at all, but since getting our atmos soundbar, I have a tendency to compare all audio to Batman vs Superman's. Since I've only got what I call half atmos sound, I don't get the full on experience. I'd like to think I get a decent one.

Anyway, using Batman vs. Superman to compare with, the sound is okay. Just not great. There are so many great moments when having that detailed sound would really make this UHD a thing of beauty, but as has been said, Disney continues to take what I think are cheap shortcuts.

The subwoofer boomed in all the right places, but that's probably about as good as it got which isn't saying much.

I really don't think they're doing it for the soundbar crowd. IMO, they'd rather spend their money on visuals and not care so much about the audio side of films. They may think that most folks care only about the visuals.

Anyway...PQ - 4.5 and AQ - 3

Still a great fun movie to watch.

There is one rocket launch scene in that flick that should crack all the walls and let the ceiling fall to the floor. Did it not happen? And if not which audio soundtrack was playing, the Dolby TrueHD 7.1 core?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzM_...ature=youtu.be

[newtonp01]

Was curious to A/B the differences. Pretty much how I expected, the UHD blows away the BD by any comparison (in terms of PQ). Note these are phone pics and shouldn't be taken as gospel - but we know that right?

Shot #1 - Detail

BD:

[Show spoiler]

UHD:

[Show spoiler]

Look at the more immediate detail - the hairs, Dash's freckles, the slight texturing on Mr. Incredible's face.

Shot #2 - HDR

BD:

[Show spoiler]

UHD:

[Show spoiler]

Not too much more highlights but look at the stone wall behind them: the BD almost washes out the detail but it's all there on the UHD.

Shot #3 - compression

BD:

[Show spoiler]

UHD:

[Show spoiler]

Look at how fine the edges are on the BD compared to the UHD (I cheated a little cause it's not the same exact frame but boohoo). It's even more visible in motion: the drill becomes a blur on the BD but is super textured on the UHD. Also look at the sky in the background and see how much tighter it is.

The Incredibles is the oldest CG animated film on UHD now, made from a 2004 2K DI. If any film wouldn't be expected to have more detail on UHD, it would be this one - but as you can see, it's not the case. Bottom line people: just cause it's an upscale doesn't mean it's not worth buying.

Also I sold the digital code for $15 and my old BD for $5. Only cost me $10 to upgrade

[5150z]

Originally Posted by Dreamliner330

Lol. Lame. “I want immersive audio, I’ll buy a soundbar!” Still nonsense Disney is purposely gimping an audio mix for a soundbar. It’s simply not true.

That's NOT the point. It's gimped, regardless of why. That should be the point.