Official Terminator Thread - Page 33 - Blu-ray Forum

GreenScar · 05-25-2009, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CYMBOL

Reese got a Red Armband cause he fathered the guy?

So, uh, what did everyone else have to do to get their red armbands?!

Well, to be a little more serious, in Reese's mind, the killing of the T-600, and helping Marcus with the Hunter Killer probably showed his moxy and his willingness to fight the machines and help others. In John's mind, he's giving it to him to keep him close. I'm thinking Reese is going to be quite the character if there's a sequel (possibly filling the hole left by the death of Marcus).

BirdManJr · 05-25-2009, 03:42 PM

If you think about it...Skynet or whoever had the power to send the first terminator back in time to try and kill sarah conner. then they sent back the liquid terminator from T2 to kill john...Then T3 they sent back a more advanced terminator to kill john and the other kids that would be leaders in the war later.

Why cant skynet send a more advanced terminator back to when salvation was going on?....And if they sent back the more advanced terminators so early shouldnt the future be rushed a little bit since they did get some of the technology that time around?

And the terminator knew of sarah conner of course...he was looking for her..and in T2 they was looking for john...skynet somehow knows of the whole family...guess we will find out later how they know and how the time travel works.

hc666 · 05-25-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DVDave

I love reading hypocritical statements like these. Just admit you are buying it because it's a guilty pleasure.

for sure

guilty pleasure all the way!

hc666 · 05-25-2009, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by tilapiah6

I'll never get buying a movie you don't like. Surely there are better ways to demo your home theater.

I will be buying it because I loved it (and because you're right, it will sound amazing!).

It sucks in a good way!

Kind of like Torque and Exit Wounds... haha

Seriously though, the action was top notch even though the movie was lame... it was great everytime Christian Bale was not in the picture. The whole John Connor stuff was very weak.

GreenScar · 05-25-2009, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BirdManJr

If you think about it...Skynet or whoever had the power to send the first terminator back in time to try and kill sarah conner. then they sent back the liquid terminator from T2 to kill john...Then T3 they sent back a more advanced terminator to kill john and the other kids that would be leaders in the war later.

Why cant skynet send a more advanced terminator back to when salvation was going on?....And if they sent back the more advanced terminators so early shouldnt the future be rushed a little bit since they did get some of the technology that time around?

And the terminator knew of sarah conner of course...he was looking for her..and in T2 they was looking for john...skynet somehow knows of the whole family...guess we will find out later how they know and how the time travel works.

I'm thinking that it's not that easy to use the time displacement machine. Also (something I posted like 40 pages ago). I'm thinking that the time travel is a set number of years they can travel (a set window). That would explain why the technology in the Terminators themselves advanced with each one. 10 years between T1 and T2 then another 10 or so for T3.

GreenScar · 05-25-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hc666

It sucks in a good way!

Kind of like Torque and Exit Wounds... haha

Seriously though, the action was top notch even though the movie was lame... it was great everytime Christian Bale was not in the picture. The whole John Connor stuff was very weak.

They cut a whole lotta John Connor stuff that will be included in the deleted scenes. I'm wondering what those scenes would have added...

tilapiah6 · 05-25-2009, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hc666

It sucks in a good way!

Kind of like Torque and Exit Wounds... haha

Seriously though, the action was top notch even though the movie was lame... it was great everytime Christian Bale was not in the picture. The whole John Connor stuff was very weak.

I thought it was a good movie. It was the one that I was looking forward to. I couldn't care less about Transformers 2 or Angels and Demons. I did enjoy Star Trek, though I wasn't really looking forward to it.

The only other movie on the horizon, for me, is Inglorious Basterds.

Daredevil666 · 05-25-2009, 04:53 PM

It's so funny watching and reading people raising hell about the "machines who do not make noise until they are right unto you". I mean, did none of you guys, ever watched 80's flicks ? Remember Lethal Weapon ? It's a movie, the helicopters, machines, whatever, are SUPPOSED to not make any noise until they are right unto you. That's a definition of the whole 80's action genre !

What next ? "slashers are idiotic because the victims stays in the house after the first kill instead or running out of here" ?

Drew664 · 05-25-2009, 04:54 PM

There is one part in the movie that I thought was a great bit of acting/emotion.

[Show spoiler]

I just thought I'd share that moment that just came back to me. I still think it's the worst of the terminators, but it isn't horrible by any means.

Lush23 · 05-25-2009, 05:01 PM

This movie would have been good if they had more battle scenes. They are supposed to be at war with the machines and this movie lacked this. Its sad that the best action scenes came from the minefield escape. And I say sad because they were fighting themselves and not the machines. Movie was lame and a blockbuster bust. And thats proven by it only making about $43 million in 3 days. Sad.

GreenScar · 05-25-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lush23

This movie would have been good if they had more battle scenes.

CYMBOL · 05-25-2009, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenScar

Well, to be a little more serious, in Reese's mind, the killing of the T-600, and helping Marcus with the Hunter Killer probably showed his moxy and his willingness to fight the machines and help others. In John's mind, he's giving it to him to keep him close. I'm thinking Reese is going to be quite the character if there's a sequel (possibly filling the hole left by the death of Marcus).

Well, I still don't know how one actually "earns" a red armband. It can't be for killing a terminator. Reese said he hadn't "earned" it - maybe I was taking that too literally.

CYMBOL · 05-25-2009, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BirdManJr

If you think about it...Skynet or whoever had the power to send the first terminator back in time to try and kill sarah conner. then they sent back the liquid terminator from T2 to kill john...Then T3 they sent back a more advanced terminator to kill john and the other kids that would be leaders in the war later.

Why cant skynet send a more advanced terminator back to when salvation was going on?....And if they sent back the more advanced terminators so early shouldnt the future be rushed a little bit since they did get some of the technology that time around?

The thing is - in Terminator one - Reese states that they had basically destroyed Skynet and that Skynet used it's last resources to send the Terminator back in time to destroy the leader of the resistance's mother. It was deperation on Skynet's part. At least, that was how I saw it.

The fact that they keep sending one after another is really kind of a silly plot device after a while. Terminator 3 really started to push the limits of accepting sending 1 person back each time etc. Terminator 3 probably needed to be the machines actually rising up (without the whole "2 beings sent back in time to do battle" storyline.)

I also wish T4 had gone into the whole "false prophet" idea - sounds like it would have been a fascinating storyline.

blooded predator · 05-25-2009, 05:30 PM

[QUOTE=CYMBOL;1940380]The thing is - in Terminator one - Reese states that they had basically destroyed Skynet

but that was not until 2029 this is 2018 and they have just discovered the advanced t-800.in latter part of the war the t-800 will become significant in the war for the machines.

ThePhantomOak · 05-25-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DVDave

I'm not talking about the machines. I'm talking about the humans. The darkness, however slight an advantage, is the only natural cover the humans have. So what if the machines have infra-red targeting sensors, their very survival depends on every advantage known to them. Fighting in broad daylight would make them easy targets but at night, fighting with guerilla warfare the machines have to seek their targets out. If they're going to go out, their going to make them work for every inch of ground in this war.

No

Diesel · 05-25-2009, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CYMBOL

The thing is - in Terminator one - Reese states that they had basically destroyed Skynet and that Skynet used it's last resources to send the Terminator back in time to destroy the leader of the resistance's mother. It was deperation on Skynet's part. At least, that was how I saw it.

The fact that they keep sending one after another is really kind of a silly plot device after a while. Terminator 3 really started to push the limits of accepting sending 1 person back each time etc. Terminator 3 probably needed to be the machines actually rising up (without the whole "2 beings sent back in time to do battle" storyline.)

I also wish T4 had gone into the whole "false prophet" idea - sounds like it would have been a fascinating storyline.

i'm hoping they have more scenes in that 30-40minute deleted scenes that deals with the false prophet idea

Blu-Me · 05-25-2009, 07:05 PM

Jada Grace as Star in Terminator Salvation.

blu-mood · 05-25-2009, 07:16 PM

Just saw it and thought it was much better than what I was expecting and way better than T3. Liked what they did with Schwarzenegger's likeness- used more than I thought it'd be. Doubtful that I'll buy it on Blu-ray though.

LynxFX · 05-25-2009, 09:51 PM

Interesting detailed read on what the original script for T4 was versus the rewrites once Bale was cast as Connor. May have already been posted but I haven't followed the entire thread.

What went wrong with Terminator Salvation?

I've seen it twice and wish the original was filmed. The action set pieces were great, but the Connor story sucked.

anomynous · 05-25-2009, 10:05 PM

Saw the film today, I liked it.

I think that Anton Yelchin & Sam Worthington did a much better job than Bale though

05-25-2009, 07:05 PM	#657
Blu-Me Active Member Member since:Jun 2008 Blu-ray collection:8	And the Razzie for worst role in a movie goes to... Jada Grace as Star in Terminator Salvation.

05-25-2009, 10:05 PM	#660
anomynous Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2008 Blu-ray collection:185 Trading Score:40	Saw the film today, I liked it. I think that Anton Yelchin & Sam Worthington did a much better job than Bale though Last edited by anomynous; 05-25-2009 at 10:11 PM.

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05-25-2009, 03:42 PM	#642
BirdManJr Power Member Member since:Mar 2008 Blu-ray reviews:3	If you think about it...Skynet or whoever had the power to send the first terminator back in time to try and kill sarah conner. then they sent back the liquid terminator from T2 to kill john...Then T3 they sent back a more advanced terminator to kill john and the other kids that would be leaders in the war later. Why cant skynet send a more advanced terminator back to when salvation was going on?....And if they sent back the more advanced terminators so early shouldnt the future be rushed a little bit since they did get some of the technology that time around? And the terminator knew of sarah conner of course...he was looking for her..and in T2 they was looking for john...skynet somehow knows of the whole family...guess we will find out later how they know and how the time travel works.

05-25-2009, 04:53 PM	#648
Daredevil666 Power Member Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Future Earth Blu-ray reviews:1	It's so funny watching and reading people raising hell about the "machines who do not make noise until they are right unto you". I mean, did none of you guys, ever watched 80's flicks ? Remember Lethal Weapon ? It's a movie, the helicopters, machines, whatever, are SUPPOSED to not make any noise until they are right unto you. That's a definition of the whole 80's action genre ! What next ? "slashers are idiotic because the victims stays in the house after the first kill instead or running out of here" ?

05-25-2009, 04:54 PM	#649
Drew664 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:South Dakota Home Theater Gallery:28 Blu-ray collection:68	There is one part in the movie that I thought was a great bit of acting/emotion. [Show spoiler] I just thought I'd share that moment that just came back to me. I still think it's the worst of the terminators, but it isn't horrible by any means.

05-25-2009, 05:01 PM	#650
Lush23 Active Member Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Charlottesville, VA Home Theater Gallery:44 Trading Score:6	This movie would have been good if they had more battle scenes. They are supposed to be at war with the machines and this movie lacked this. Its sad that the best action scenes came from the minefield escape. And I say sad because they were fighting themselves and not the machines. Movie was lame and a blockbuster bust. And thats proven by it only making about $43 million in 3 days. Sad.

05-25-2009, 05:30 PM	#654
blooded predator Senior Member Member since:Jun 2008 Location:reno,nv Blu-ray collection:34 Blu-ray reviews:1	[QUOTE=CYMBOL;1940380]The thing is - in Terminator one - Reese states that they had basically destroyed Skynet but that was not until 2029 this is 2018 and they have just discovered the advanced t-800.in latter part of the war the t-800 will become significant in the war for the machines.

05-25-2009, 07:16 PM	#658
blu-mood Active Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Ridgewood, NJ 4K collection:121 Blu-ray collection:390 Trading Score:7	Just saw it and thought it was much better than what I was expecting and way better than T3. Liked what they did with Schwarzenegger's likeness- used more than I thought it'd be. Doubtful that I'll buy it on Blu-ray though.

05-25-2009, 09:51 PM	#659
LynxFX Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2007	Interesting detailed read on what the original script for T4 was versus the rewrites once Bale was cast as Connor. May have already been posted but I haven't followed the entire thread. What went wrong with Terminator Salvation? I've seen it twice and wish the original was filmed. The action set pieces were great, but the Connor story sucked.

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