The Official Energy Speakers Thread

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by cfurtado

x over ? lol the phase ??

je suis vraiment nul

Ya une switch sur ton sub qui s'apelle crossover qui varie de 35 à 180hz sur ton sub.

I had in mind you had the A2-300, A5-350 front firing turn it around and set the crossover to around 80hz. wow it's even heavier 100 pounds + this thing. I really thaught you had a downfiring 12 A2-300.

Wow what a beast seriously keep that man for home theather it's sick.

[Cpt_Dylan_Hunt]

I knew he had the a5. That's why when I found out his room size I said he'd be better off with 2 of those than 2 v10s, for ht purposes for sure. I was being sincere.

Not that I don't love the v10, but a 10 inch sub in a room that is 60 feet long?

[Cpt_Dylan_Hunt]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

Ya une switch sur ton sub qui s'apelle crossover qui varie de 35 à 180hz sur ton sub.

I had in mind you had the A2-300, A5-350 front firing turn it around and set the crossover to around 80hz. wow it's even heavier 100 pounds + this thing. I really thaught you had a downfiring 12 A2-300.

Wow what a beast seriously keep that man for home theather it's sick.

Well if his receiver's crossover is set to 80hz then he can set the Subs cross over all the way up, thats what I do on subs that don't have the active/bypass switch.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by Cpt_Dylan_Hunt

Well if his receiver's crossover is set to 80hz then he can set the Subs cross over all the way up, thats what I do on subs that don't have the active/bypass switch.

I cannot adjust the X-over frequency of the sub on my receiver only the 7 speakers indivudually so I don't have much choice but to adjust it directly on the sub but yeah that would work also.

As long as the frequencies 80hz and below passes that's all that matter but if he has it to low right now it wont do him any good.

We surely can do something with that single ED A5 man a 15 should be able to rumble the house.
I'll take the v10 on the way out

[cfurtado]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

I cannot adjust the X-over frequency of the sub on my receiver only the 7 speakers indivudually so I don't have much choice but to adjust it directly on the sub but yeah that would work also.

As long as the frequencies 80hz and below passes that's all that matter but if he has it to low right now it wont do him any good.

We surely can do something with that single ED A5 man a 15 should be able to rumble the house.
I'll take the v10 on the way out

hahaha loll

well if you come ull see what i mean with the ED sub...

and the crossover is at the lowest...

[Cpt_Dylan_Hunt]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

I cannot adjust the X-over frequency of the sub on my receiver only the 7 speakers indivudually so I don't have much choice but to adjust it directly on the sub but yeah that would work also.

As long as the frequencies 80hz and below passes that's all that matter but if he has it to low right now it wont do him any good.

We surely can do something with that single ED A5 man a 15 should be able to rumble the house.
I'll take the v10 on the way out

Ya good point, I assumed for a second his 6190 would be similar to my 6160, in that regard, but it may very well have individual cross over frequency adjustment. I'm not sure.

[browndk26]

I just ordered a C-C50 and a pair of C-200's for my new front stage. I bought them from Audioadvisor.com. They only had the center in cherry and the others in black. Should be here the middle of next week. Shipping by Fedex. Looking forward to how much better they will sound than my current Sony speakers. The Sony's will be for sale on Craig's list soon.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

When you auditionned the 10.3 was it that much better than your AA?

The 10.3 and the ML Dynamo are the 2 best subs I have heard to date. So yeah, I would switch with you in a heart beat. I think the 10.3 had a little more boom then the Dynamo, but both had great bass.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by macruz19

My gf (LeAnn) got me a pair of C-200's for Christmas, but I won't get them in a few months since it's still October.

Anyway, I plan on moving my C100's that's currently at the front and move those to the rear as the C200's will take over as my front speakers, while keeping my C-C50 (center channel).

What do you guys think?

I think its excellent.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by cfurtado

hahaha loll

well if you come ull see what i mean with the ED sub...

and the crossover is at the lowest...

I think BigAl can help you out, but I would say that the crossover should be set on the reciever at 70-80 hz and then on the back of the sub the crossover should be at max wether its 100 hz or 130 hz. The gain/volume would be the one thing you will want to fiddle with then most. You may need it at 50% or less. When I heard the S10.3 it was at 1/4 of the way up and it was killing the small audition room they had it in. Also a 15" woofer will be a little more boomy then a 10". It is best to have identical subs too. Having them on a riser helps also.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by browndk26

I just ordered a C-C50 and a pair of C-200's for my new front stage. I bought them from Audioadvisor.com. They only had the center in cherry and the others in black. Should be here the middle of next week. Shipping by Fedex. Looking forward to how much better they will sound than my current Sony speakers. The Sony's will be for sale on Craig's list soon.

Congratulations. I think you will be happy. Did they give you a break on the shipping?

Not sure what you have for surrounds, but the Sony B-100s may be excellent surrounds until you get new ones. Let us know what you think.

Don't worry about the colors not matching, I saw a guy on here (hc666 I think) and he had cherry towers and a black center and it looked great to me... Plus I don't know how your setup is, but if you're gonna have the center tucked away in a space within your TV stand (like I do), it may not ever be noticed anyways.

[arrt vandelay]

Originally Posted by cfurtado

hahaha loll

well if you come ull see what i mean with the ED sub...

and the crossover is at the lowest...

i have the an eD sub and the crossover it set to the highest point so the receiver handles everything. make sure you have it turned all the way to 120hz for the old style eD amps or 160hz for the new style eD amps...

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by callas01

I think BigAl can help you out, but I would say that the crossover should be set on the reciever at 70-80 hz and then on the back of the sub the crossover should be at max wether its 100 hz or 130 hz. The gain/volume would be the one thing you will want to fiddle with then most. You may need it at 50% or less. When I heard the S10.3 it was at 1/4 of the way up and it was killing the small audition room they had it in. Also a 15" woofer will be a little more boomy then a 10". It is best to have identical subs too. Having them on a riser helps also.

Yeah I get your point but in my case as I mentionned in a previous post if he has individual ajustments on speaker and does not have one for the sub then he has no choice to set it properly directly on the sub as in my case I don't have a X-over ajustment for the sub on my receiver but I have X - over ajustment per speakers, funny on how it can vary from one to another receiver so I look into this as well but I sure will set it on the receiver if he has it.

Not to forget even if I had an adjustment for the sub on the receiver since I'm pure direct this does not work. Thats one of my constraint also so the Active bypass filter on my sub comes in handy.

[callas01]

Originally Posted by BigAl87

Yeah I get your point but in my case as I mentionned in a previous post if he has individual ajustments on speaker and does not have one for the sub then he has no choice to set it properly directly on the sub as in my case I don't have a X-over ajustment for the sub on my receiver but I have X - over ajustment per speakers, funny on how it can vary from one to another receiver so I look into this as well but I sure will set it on the receiver if he has it.

Not to forget even if I had an adjustment for the sub on the receiver since I'm pure direct this does not work. Thats one of my constraint also so the Active bypass filter on my sub comes in handy.

BA, I don't have crossover setting on my receiver for the sub either, but I do set the speaker crossover on the receiver for the fronts, center and surrounds to 70 hz and then the crossover nob on the back of the sub to the max. That is still the best way to do it.

[BigAl87]

Originally Posted by callas01

BA, I don't have crossover setting on my receiver for the sub either, but I do set the speaker crossover on the receiver for the fronts, center and surrounds to 70 hz and then the crossover nob on the back of the sub to the max. That is still the best way to do it.

That part I did not know it's good to share info lol but that would not fix my problem with pure direct but that will do the trick in 95% of the time then.

Thanks for the info Callas I learn things every day man

[94GTStang]

Ok, so the other night the wife was watching her Thursday night programing on ABC and was saying the sound was all messed up. Sure enough the dialogue was pretty faint. The L/R speakers just seemed to really accenuate the sound effects (like a phone ringing in the background was overly loud) and soundtrack. Is this ABC? I haven't had a problem like this yet and I've been quite happy with how my front speakers have been working together. All my other channels have been sounding great! I'm hoping it's just AbC screwing up their feed and it's not my setup. Anything I should adjust? Crossover? Bump the center channel dB?

[jomari]

Originally Posted by 94GTStang

Ok, so the other night the wife was watching her Thursday night programing on ABC and was saying the sound was all messed up. Sure enough the dialogue was pretty faint. The L/R speakers just seemed to really accenuate the sound effects (like a phone ringing in the background was overly loud) and soundtrack. Is this ABC? I haven't had a problem like this yet and I've been quite happy with how my front speakers have been working together. All my other channels have been sounding great! I'm hoping it's just AbC screwing up their feed and it's not my setup. Anything I should adjust? Crossover? Bump the center channel dB?

does this occur using another source (dvd player, blu-ray player)?

this might be due to the source as a culprit, most of the times, their DD isnt mixed well, and/or basic screwed up settings on their account. i highly suggest using a different DSP to handle your challenges, instead of adjusting your center channel.

[hiphophead85]

Hey BigAl, what speaker stands do you have located by the side of your couch? Are those the Sanus model? If so, which size are you using? Im looking to order a pair for my bedroom

[Yeha-Noha]

Originally Posted by Cpt_Dylan_Hunt

That' funny because I've tried YPAO with multiple different speaker setups, and switching it on almost always takes brightness away. But like too much of it, mids are completely missing. I ran it again last night and it did the same thing. Switching to "off" actually makes the speakers sound brighter than YPAOs flat setting. YPAO seems to like to boost upper treble and bass for me.



For me it emphazies it by making it non existant. I become aware of that range because of how lacking it is!!!

Plain and simple, I am having the complete opposite experience as you. And I have tried it with many speaker placements, including the one reccomended by Energy. (Which I don't prefer for imaging in my room). And I have a pretty good test cd to test imaging specifically.



There have been many complaints about lack of lower treble and/or upper mids regarding c-series by people using many different receivers, under many different circumstances in many different rooms, and even fancy tests with numbers which you like also indicate it in revies i've seen on the internet.

Almost anyone who ever owned the original connoisseur series also seems to think the c-series are lacking mids and sound dull and muffled.

It's a combination of things, c-series are great, but they are not perfect speakers, and my 6160's YPAO is not boosting the same range as yours in my room.

Thanks for detailing your experiences. I can't explain why there is such a dramatic difference either. But it seems highly suspicious to me that YPAO would boost all 7 speakers, three fronts and 4 surrounds, by +6 db at around 6 K Hz. Each speaker is in different room position. It doesn't seem real. A plausible explanation is that my V663 is a lemon. That's what I get for buying one as soon as they became available over 1 1/2 years ago. I wish I had bought the Pioneer 1018 instead. I have had pioneer and onkyo AVRs. Both audysssey and MCCAP never did what YPAO does. They did far better correcting the speaker's response in the room, unless like I said my V663 is a lemon. The Yahama from JR music was about $200 cheaper than the pioneer. I got a bum deal in the end.

At the same time YPAO boosts the upper end, it cuts the bass in the 60 Hz to 100 Hz region for each speaker by -6 db to -7 db. It sets the speakers to large when it does this. Then, of course, I set them to small with an 80 Hz crossover. The end result is a very shallow sound with YPAO on, weaker bass and too much trebble. Set YPAO off, and the sound is more natural and quite beautiful.

Needless to say, I can't wait to pitch the V663 as soon as I get the Emotiva audio/video processor.

[94GTStang]

Originally Posted by jomari

does this occur using another source (dvd player, blu-ray player)?

this might be due to the source as a culprit, most of the times, their DD isnt mixed well, and/or basic screwed up settings on their account. i highly suggest using a different DSP to handle your challenges, instead of adjusting your center channel.

No I didn't notice anything when I was watching the dark knight the other day. I think it's the source as well. What is DSP? Is that other surround modes on the receiver? I'll look at how to adjust that. Thanks!