Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

So Spouses come and go, but Discs live Forever with a way to fund them. Sounds like a plan, but just watching two a day is limiting. I was like Dr. Malcolm from Jurassic Park, always on the lookout for a future ex-Mrs. After several tries I finally found the right one, now I fill my time watching a Digital HD Movie a day plus many others part of the way till finished.

Try not to read so much into it. It was just a joke reply. I was not intending to knock marriage.

I would never seriously contrast having a spouse with owning any kind of property.

Two per day is just an average; I have many interests outside of film.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Vor4

Does it make sense if someone that has a huge collection of digital hd films to go back to physical media?

It makes sense to do what makes you happy. It is just that simple.

[Trace Buster Buster]

Originally Posted by Zu Nim

I spend far more time reading this thread than posting to it. It doesn't take a lot of time to post. The anti-digital arguments aren't difficult to defeat because they're mostly unrealistic. And I've already said twice in as many days that I'm not engaging some of the posters anymore. I'm not even reading the latest wall of crufty ideas. You can lead a horse to water...



The situation here is that some folks love to fearmonger about digital ownership. Ignorance and wrongheadedness deserve to be confronted with facts and reason.

If you'd read my posts, and you clearly haven't, you'd know I don't argue that digital is "better". Nor am I arguing with "everyone" since there's plenty of support for much of what I write. And that shouldn't be surprising since this is the Digital Movies section.

See? That didn't take much time to defeat...

I've read your posts. And its absolute bull shite

[flyry]

Originally Posted by SarahS

This is a digital section of that website. All you disc spinners should go hang out in your own section.

[Trace Buster Buster]

Man I reallly wish this dude has a financial stake

[Kage]

Originally Posted by Vor4

Does it make sense if someone that has a huge collection of digital hd films to go back to physical media?

Originally Posted by alchav21

No you move on, that's why I find it hard to believe why people are so hesitant for Digital HD. VHS to DVD to Blu-ray to Digital HD, the normal progression of Technology!

I really think that its stupid for someone to go back to physical media if he/she has a huge library of digital hd movies and use to have a huge collection of physical media before selling the collection to a used movie store or on eBay. That person might have a combo of buyers/sellers remorse or a physical media/digital media remorse.

I made the switch to digital hd near the end of year 2016. Last year, I wasn't sure if I wanted to stay with digital hd. I switched back to physical media and used it about 3 months and hated my experience with it, especially with the unreliable Sony X800 4k UHD blu-ray player that I tried out a few times. So I switched back to digital hd and my experience with it is superior than I had with both physical media and video streaming on the Sony X800. When I put my 4k movies on sale on eBay, I had to sell them for 60% to 70% less than I paid for.

People here stated that physical media is still selling well, especially 4k movies. I don't think thats true at all. When I go to Best Buy or Frys Electronics to shop or to browse, I see no one the physical media movie section. I see more people in the video game section, and buying, looking at media streamers instead of 4k blu-ray players and hd blu-ray players.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Kage

People here stated that physical media is still selling well, especially 4k movies. I don't think thats true at all. When I go to Best Buy or Frys Electronics to shop or to browse, I see no one the physical media movie section. I see more people in the video game section, and buying, looking at media streamers instead of 4k blu-ray players and hd blu-ray players.

Physical media is not selling well; the sales data shows that objectively. 4K players and 4K discs are selling well, far better than expected, at this early stage. The sales data shows that as well, but 4K's early success is not robust enough to boost physical media as a whole.

I buy the vast majority of my discs online and I suspect many others do the same. Better selection, competitive pricing, free shipping, and the convenience of home delivery make shopping online ideal for me. I would not extrapolate observed floor traffic during the narrow window of one's visit at local brick and mortar stores to indicate the market demand as a whole; we have actual sales data for that.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Trace Buster Buster

I've read your posts. And its absolute bull shite

Not to mention his last point comes over as arrogant I think. This guy really thinks he is someone imo.

He is basically saying his viewpoint is the logical correct one.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by SarahS

This is a digital section of that website. All you disc spinners should go hang out in your own section.

Read the thread title.

[PCFan]

Originally Posted by Vor4

Thats odd. My 64 GB ATV4k does not do that. You probably have to do a complete factory restore in the atv4k. If that does not work, contact Apple support about the issue, or try updating the atv4k to the the latest beta tvOS upgrade.

I did a factory reset with update reinstall and this issue still happens. It's fine right after the factory reset, but then after watching a few TV shows in my iTunes library, the total episode count in one of the TV shows went down by one today. I sent feedback about this issue to Apple a month ago. Also another weird thing I noticed is that when Quick Start is enabled, two episodes in The O.C. streamed in SD, were juddery in motion, and frame rate matching did not kick in, out of the 19 episodes I watched so far of the series. If I disable Quick Start then those episodes stream in HD, motion is smoother, and frame rate matching kicks in, and this issue happened in both the iTunes TV Shows app and the TV app on my Apple TV 4k.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by moviegeek1992

BTW, I am interested in knowing what OOP movie Dynamo got 3 copies of in that blockbuster!

It's not the greatest movie of all time or anything (and not something that I was willing to the absurd prices that it was generally going for), but I did want to see it again and was really glad to find it...

https://www.amazon.com/Folks-Tom-Sel...words=folks%21

[moviegeek1992]

At the end of the day, there's just not the same level of choice outside of the mainstream than with physical media. Had iTunes every movie out on DVD or blu-ray (that was still in print) then I wouldn't hesitate to switch over despite any lack of nostalgia of having a physical copy. But alas cult films is one thing but digital services here in the UK don't even have a large amount of studio titles.

Also most here are probably in the US, you have to understand we don't have VUDU, Movies Anywhere or any of those services in the rest of the world. Rights issues also mean we don't have access to certain titles either that we could otherwise import perhaps at a cheaper price than a potential digital version would have cost.

Hollywood really messed up big time in the rollout for digital HD. The rest of the world is being dominated by streaming because at least Netflix and Amazon Prime have given a damn about global expansion. Will we even get Movies Anywhere in the UK? Who knows, no one is talking about and UV here is pretty much dead.

[moviegeek1992]

Originally Posted by alchav21

So Spouses come and go, but Discs live Forever with a way to fund them. Sounds like a plan, but just watching two a day is limiting. I was like Dr. Malcolm from Jurassic Park, always on the lookout for a future ex-Mrs. After several tries I finally found the right one, now I fill my time watching a Digital HD Movie a day plus many others part of the way till finished.

Alchav, mate, you Do realise that you can Watch Movies bit by bit on Disc also. It might be slightly more convenient to jump in and out of a digital File than switching Discs but then again your habit isn't one that's common among the Film Community as most people watch films either half on one night then finish it off the next or all the way through.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by alchav21

So Spouses come and go, but Discs live Forever with a way to fund them. Sounds like a plan, but just watching two a day is limiting. I was like Dr. Malcolm from Jurassic Park, always on the lookout for a future ex-Mrs. After several tries I finally found the right one, now I fill my time watching a Digital HD Movie a day plus many others part of the way till finished.

Originally Posted by Vilya

Try not to read so much into it. It was just a joke reply. I was not intending to knock marriage.

I would never seriously contrast having a spouse with owning any kind of property.

Two per day is just an average; I have many interests outside of film.

I would never knock marriage either, I just keep trying it till it works out. We all have other interests, but with a large Collection of Movies Digital HD makes it easier to watch them all in our allotted time.

[Vilya]

I never considered placing a disc in a player's tray to be anything resembling work anymore than I consider launching an app to be strenuous. Finding the title on my alphabetically arranged shelf takes no longer than finding a specific title within an app. Watching a movie either way requires the same amount of time. Ease of watching and time usage are essentially equivalent.

The similarity ends there, in my opinion, and there is no need for me to repeat the reasons for my preferred viewing method. I am happy with my choice; others are happy with theirs, and our individual happiness is what matters.

[whipnet]

I like turtles....

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[Vilya]

Originally Posted by whipnet

I like turtles....

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So do I!

[graf1k]

Personally I prefer streaming digitally over discs anymore. The changing of the disc doesn't bother me so much as the physical clutter of tens (or hundreds) of movies and their cases lying around and I'm not the type that takes pride in displaying my collections. Nothing wrong with that, but I'd just prefer to have less clutter. Also, the disc thing can get a little annoying when you want to just marathon a show one afternoon. Netflix spoiled me for binge watching.

I went all digital on my video games pretty much from the launch of this console generation and that really opened me up to the idea of a digital movie collection. I don't really worry about my internet going out or my collection of movies and games disappearing one day. Plus, on the positive side my buddy and I get to share our games collection on PS4 so we're both saving money, and I get to share my iTunes/Vudu movie collection with my sister and her family and also my parents so it's kind of like a communal collection and we can all watch any title whenever we want even though we live hundreds of miles apart.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by alchav21

So Spouses come and go, but Discs live Forever with a way to fund them. Sounds like a plan, but just watching two a day is limiting. I was like Dr. Malcolm from Jurassic Park, always on the lookout for a future ex-Mrs. After several tries I finally found the right one, now I fill my time watching a Digital HD Movie a day plus many others part of the way till finished.

Originally Posted by moviegeek1992

Alchav, mate, you Do realise that you can Watch Movies bit by bit on Disc also. It might be slightly more convenient to jump in and out of a digital File than switching Discs but then again your habit isn't one that's common among the Film Community as most people watch films either half on one night then finish it off the next or all the way through.

You're the first one that has admitted to watching part of a Movie on Disc one night then coming back to finish the rest. I never did this with Disc, I would Pause Movies, but always played them to the end. I started this habit of watching parts when I would Back-up my DVD's, because of the way the VOB Files were laid out in segments. Then when Streaming came along, the Providers made it easy to partially play Movies then come back to them. This is even more helpful when playing Series.

[moviegeek1992]

Originally Posted by alchav21

You're the first one that has admitted to watching part of a Movie on Disc one night then coming back to finish the rest. I never did this with Disc, I would Pause Movies, but always played them to the end. I started this habit of watching parts when I would Back-up my DVD's, because of the way the VOB Files were laid out in segments. Then when Streaming came along, the Providers made it easy to partially play Movies then come back to them. This is even more helpful when playing Series.

You're the only one who watches 20 minutes of Movie A, then 20 minutes of Movie B and 20 minutes of Movie C. Why not just watch 1hr of Movie A, finish it the next night and then start Movie B?