Fantastic Four (2015)

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by spiderfan1985

Now THAT is a funny GIF. Thank you. Spider-Man 3 gave us some good stuff too.

Fantastic Four to me wasn't a GOOD comic book movie but it was an okay sci-fi movie and mostly entertaining, which is why I gave it a 3.75/5 score.

[spiderfan1985]

Originally Posted by Darth Anakin

Fantastic Four to me wasn't a GOOD comic book movie but it was an okay sci-fi movie and mostly entertaining, which is why I gave it a 3.75/5 score.

I'm not even a fan of the comics, I never read them so I really have no pre-established loyalty to them, so any and all of the changes they made were fine by me. At least it's not just a redo of what was done before. Trank went a different path, a darker path. Did I just quote Magneto from DoFP? I thinkI did. Wow. I'm glad you enjoyed it as well. It's not as bad as the hate suggests it is and by the end the groundwork is laid for a nice superhero family. I would still like to see what Trank had in mind for the whole thing from beginning to end, but for now this film gave me my money's worth in fun. And I love Ben. Nuff said.

[Elandyll]

At this rate, the movie will be out of the regular release circuit by Friday.

Fox's Fantastic Four took another shot to the Trank with a 68% dropoff from its feeble $26.2M opening for $8M in 4,004 theaters, $1,998 per screen. As far as biggest, 2nd-week drop offs for Marvel-themed films it's worse than Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer, which dropped 65.5% its second weekend and nearly took the title away from 2005's Elektra and 2009's X-Men Origins: Wolverine, both with 69% and the Marvel, face-plant champ, 2003's Hulk, with 69.7%.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4096&p=.htm

Interesting that it would rejoin the two worst Fox attempts at using the Marvel franchises, forming quite the trio (alongside Universal's).

[Patricier21]

What is considered a great movie to you or even the majority is not the case for everyone. I personally consider some of those acclaimed movies to be more boring and terribly done than Fantastic Four reboot here. While this movie certainly had its faults, and certainly could have been a lot better, I enjoyed it for what it overall was. It was a movie about people becoming the Fantastic Four and exploring an interesting possibility with the consequences of pursuing that interest. There were also some great themes in the form of facing those consequences and doing the best with what you were given, even in a worse situation. I particularly liked the thematic idea of seeing patterns in people like in music or science. I liked that it was explored here, and developed my thinking, for I had indeedly thought of similar concepts as this, but regardless of age, you never stop learning new things.

While we are on this topic, I would like to state that I learned a lot from you Fantastic Four haters too. As much as we disagree, you have helped me develop as a person, and for that I thank you. You always learn from everything you do, even the negative things you expose.

Going back on topic to this movie, although there defiantly could have been more action, what we did get was pretty sweet. I loved seeing Sue’s ability to fly with her force fields, something that we have never seen before. The final battle was indeed rushed, but it still felt exciting and engaging.

If anything else, this movie also taught me to value the little things instead of wishing for more. Less is defiantly more, and it not only applies to what was in this movie (although I do agree that there needed to be more in some aspects). Regarding your initial idea for me to see those movies, some of which I already have, there is just no need. Not one person is meant to see every movie, for if they did, there would be no value or point to seeing movies at all. There would be no favorites or least favorites. There would be no point in going to see them. You judge whether or not to see a movie based on if it has anything of value for you and that is based on what you have seen for it, not necessarily what others say about it, for they, no matter how similar, will always have different views from you in some way or another.

[X400]

Originally Posted by Elandyll

At this rate, the movie will be out of the regular release circuit by Friday.



http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4096&p=.htm

Interesting that it would rejoin the two worst Fox attempts at using the Marvel franchises, forming quite the trio (alongside Universal's).

interested in the weekend actuals, weren't the weekend estimates last week overblown for F4?

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by chip75

There's absolutely no chance Fox will every lose the rights to The Fantastic Four. They have 8 years to make another terrible movie.

People seem to think Fox wants to keep the Fantastic Four out of spite. Fox is a business interested in making a profit. The reason this movie was made was because they thought the Fantastic Four were a valuable property that they would rather not lose. They had every reason to think so. The Tim Story movies may not have been well received by critics but both movies turned a solid profit for the studio and since then superhero movies have been more popular than ever so why give up a valuable property to a competitor?

Well this movies flopping likely will change their minds. I can't imagine any stockholders seeing the losses this movie is posting and still think The Fantastic Four are a property worth the effort to keep. More likely they see the rights as something worth selling or trading to recoup their losses

Sony had much less of a reason to make a deal with Marvel than Fox does

[Lt. Brannigan]

Originally Posted by spiderfan1985

They could have removed the others entirely and made it a buddy movie with those two as they were portrayed and I would have been a happy camper. But, this is the Fantastic 4 and Sue and Johnny were well done for their parts too. I said in my review that Jordan's Johnny is actually more likable than Evans' was. Evans did let the arrogance and jerky behavior go a little too long in the tooth sometimes. Jordan leveled it out very nicely.

I thought that Sue and Johnny were bland, I much prefer Evans take on the character. As for Sue, she has yet to be done justice on the big screen.

Though it will never happen, I would love for Fox to make a buddy movie where Reed and Ben have to rescue Sue and Johnny.

[Thomas Guycott]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

People seem to think Fox wants to keep the Fantastic Four out of spite. Fox is a business interested in making a profit.

While Hollywood is an industry primarily motivated by profits, believe me, plenty of spite gets cast around between and within the studios on a daily basis.

[Jimmy Smith]

Originally Posted by Thomas Guycott

While Hollywood is an industry primarily motivated by profits, believe me, plenty of spite gets cast around between and within the studios on a daily basis.

On a personal level of course individual members of the Hollywood system engage in spiteful behavior. They are human beings and like all human beings they have their own biases and grudges. But regardless of whatever grudges they have ultimately they have to answer to their stockholders. Thus they aren't going to make decisions where hundreds of millions of dollars are on the line purely out of spite there has to be a profit motive. My point was it made sense that they thought the Fantastic Four were a profitable property when they approved this movie but after this movies flopping and terrible reception I don't think its the case anymore

[AaronJ]

Originally Posted by Thomas Guycott

While Hollywood is an industry primarily motivated by profits, believe me, plenty of spite gets cast around between and within the studios on a daily basis.

Just ask Harvey.

[lateralspin]

Very inconsistent movie.

If they made one character black, why can't they also leave Kate Mara’s hair as natural brunette?

[Doctor Jack]

Originally Posted by lateralspin

Very inconsistent movie.

If they made one character black, why can't they also leave Kate Mara’s hair as natural brunette?

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Jimmy Smith

People seem to think Fox wants to keep the Fantastic Four out of spite. Fox is a business interested in making a profit.

Spite is a big factor, pride is another. If Fox sold the rights back to Marvel and Marvel made a 600 million dollar hit, they'd have egg on their face. Studios are all about one-upmanship over one another. Nobody wants to let a property go and see it become a blockbuster with another studio.

I'm not sure how bad the numbers are with Fantastic Four, but it won't be long before Fox start thinking about redeveloping the property once again. Marvel won't pay anywhere near what Fox think the property could potential gain with a hit movie, they just see it as a goose that's laid a few broken eggs and they're waiting for a golden one to drop. It may sound like insanity to the rest of us but that's how they operate. They don't sell properties that could make hundreds of millions of dollars unless they're extremely well compensated.

[Patricier21]

As someone suggested on here in a different context, why not just buy a ticket for Fantastic Four and go into another movie? Most other movies that you would want to see are probably doing really well enough anyways and in this way, I and others who want to support this movie can do it, and the rest of you do not have to worry as much about money if you are unsure.

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by Patricier21

As someone suggested on here in a different context, why not just buy a ticket for Fantastic Four and go into another movie? Most other movies that you would want to see are probably doing really well enough anyways and in this way, I and others who want to support this movie can do it, and the rest of you do not have to worry as much about money if you are unsure.

You could just buy 30 tickets to the movie, and give them away as people enter the theater.

[X400]

Originally Posted by Patricier21

As someone suggested on here in a different context, why not just buy a ticket for Fantastic Four and go into another movie? Most other movies that you would want to see are probably doing really well enough anyways and in this way, I and others who want to support this movie can do it, and the rest of you do not have to worry as much about money if you are unsure.

there are far better uses for your money...like giving that $20 to a homeless guy than to support a corporations stupid decisions...

[Wilkix]

Finally went to see it for myself and, while it wasn't the outright disaster I thought it would be, I still didn't like it. It's a very frustrating movie to watch because the different approach on the concept is interesting, they just don't do much with it and it feels like its missing large chunks of the film.

1.5 out of 5

[Hellraiserfan]

Originally Posted by Patricier21

As someone suggested on here in a different context, why not just buy a ticket for Fantastic Four and go into another movie? Most other movies that you would want to see are probably doing really well enough anyways and in this way, I and others who want to support this movie can do it, and the rest of you do not have to worry as much about money if you are unsure.

Luckily this movie is already past the point of no return and is already in it's grave.

Also, I don't know why anyone would want to support a terrible movie, other than biased Fox fans at least.

[GC Riot]

Okay, so having seen this, I guess I should give my thoughts on them and you all will be telling me how WRONG I am.

The first two thirds of this were good, really good actually. The childhood scenes I didn't care for much, but once they were adults, the film really found its own identity. I loved seeing these different people coming together building something inspiring, and the dialogue wasn't at all as clunky and cringeworthy as trailers would have you believe. The chemistry worked, the acting was solid, and I had no problem with the lack of explosions and this being set mostly in a lab. I was pulled in.

The highlight for me was when the team had gotten their powers, as the direction made it clear that this isn't something anyone is happy about. We see these people scared and horrified of what they've become, and the talked about Cronenberg-vibe is there in full force. This I feel is something not explored in a great deal in comic book films, and I really appreciate the serious tone which they treat this aspect of the film with. I was on board, I was really enjoying this experience up until Reed escapes.

One year later. BAM! Out of nowhere. Here comes one of the worst third acts in recent film history. It's like they filmed the first two thirds and then didn't have a single idea what to do with the rest. We don't get to see the team develop their powers more than a bit of monitor-screen-looking, we get Reed back after a year on the run without any trouble, we get von Doom back and he's pissed for some reason and wants to destroy our world for... reasons? The scenes with him walking in the lab tearing through military were great and showed a lot of potential (and I had no problems with the way he looked), but it's all wasted away. The final battle is kinda standard comic book fare, but it looks incredibly cheaply done. And everything wraps up just the way it always does, without a single worthwhile surprise.

So in the end? This is better than the previous Fantastic Four films imo. I don't give a crap if it's faithful to the comics or not, I just want a good film, and for the first two thirds, that's exactly what I got. Most of it gets undone by the last third though as that is just a tragic piece of filmmaking. I don't know who is responsible, and I don't really care. What I got was a good film with one of the most lackluster endings I've ever witnessed. I want to think that this could have been really great if they really followed through with what they started here, but they didn't, and that's a damn shame.

It's getting a 2-rating, and a strong one at that. Judged as a whole, the ending brings the film down to mediocre. They say life's a journey, not a destination, and most of this journey was enjoyable for me. This is better than a bit of this summer's fare for me, such as Terminator Genisys, and I don't agree at all with the critical mauling this film is getting as it does have a lot of qualities going for it even though the payoff sucks. All that potential wasted...

Would I recommend it? Not really. As a sci-fi adventure it holds up initially and I can recommend it as a curious take on comic book filmmaking and seeing how this sort of material can be treated in a different light, but I'd also warn to expect an extremely underwhelming finale that doesn't do what came before justice even in the slightest...

[Wilkix]

Originally Posted by GC Riot

Okay, so having seen this, I guess I should give my thoughts on them and you all will be telling me how WRONG I am.

The first two thirds of this were good, really good actually. The childhood scenes I didn't care for much, but once they were adults, the film really found its own identity. I loved seeing these different people coming together building something inspiring, and the dialogue wasn't at all as clunky and cringeworthy as trailers would have you believe. The chemistry worked, the acting was solid, and I had no problem with the lack of explosions and this being set mostly in a lab. I was pulled in.

The highlight for me was when the team had gotten their powers, as the direction made it clear that this isn't something anyone is happy about. We see these people scared and horrified of what they've become, and the talked about Cronenberg-vibe is there in full force. This I feel is something not explored in a great deal in comic book films, and I really appreciate the serious tone which they treat this aspect of the film with. I was on board, I was really enjoying this experience up until Reed escapes.

One year later. BAM! Out of nowhere. Here comes one of the worst third acts in recent film history. It's like they filmed the first two thirds and then didn't have a single idea what to do with the rest. We don't get to see the team develop their powers more than a bit of monitor-screen-looking, we get Reed back after a year on the run without any trouble, we get von Doom back and he's pissed for some reason and wants to destroy our world for... reasons? The scenes with him walking in the lab tearing through military were great and showed a lot of potential (and I had no problems with the way he looked), but it's all wasted away. The final battle is kinda standard comic book fare, but it looks incredibly cheaply done. And everything wraps up just the way it always does, without a single worthwhile surprise.

So in the end? This is better than the previous Fantastic Four films imo. I don't give a crap if it's faithful to the comics or not, I just want a good film, and for the first two thirds, that's exactly what I got. Most of it gets undone by the last third though as that is just a tragic piece of filmmaking. I don't know who is responsible, and I don't really care. What I got was a good film with one of the most lackluster endings I've ever witnessed. I want to think that this could have been really great if they really followed through with what they started here, but they didn't, and that's a damn shame.

It's getting a 2-rating, and a strong one at that. Judged as a whole, the ending brings the film down to mediocre. They say life's a journey, not a destination, and most of this journey was enjoyable for me. This is better than a bit of this summer's fare for me, such as Terminator Genisys, and I don't agree at all with the critical mauling this film is getting as it does have a lot of qualities going for it even though the payoff sucks. All that potential wasted...

Would I recommend it? Not really. As a sci-fi adventure it holds up initially and I can recommend it as a curious take on comic book filmmaking and seeing how this sort of material can be treated in a different light, but I'd also warn to expect an extremely underwhelming finale that doesn't do what came before justice even in the slightest...

I couldn't agree more, I was actually digging it until all of a sudden it just felt butchered or incomplete. If they do make a sequel I'm eager to see it because I know they'll fix their mistakes...hopefully.