Fantastic Four (2015)

[Joeker]

I finally saw this movie, and wow I didn't think it would be as bad as people made it out to be but damn this is truly a piece of crap movie.

[MovieKing101]

Originally Posted by Joeker

I finally saw this movie, and wow I didn't think it would be as bad as people made it out to be but damn this is truly a piece of crap movie.

Its ****ing awful.

[Vlad Draculi]

Where do I want to start? How about the good? It's better than Hulk and X-Men 3. In fact, the first 45 minutes were actually pretty decent. If this had been a straight up science fiction movie about a brainy child who finds a way to travel to a parallel dimension and they set out to explore that, it would have been a good movie despite the fact that none of the cast had any chemistry. However, it goes downhill the moment they get their powers. There was absolutely NOTHING super heroey about this at all. In fact, it felt like they decided to drag out the first half hour of a super hero movie into a 100 minute movie and called it a day. Everything that occurred when "Doctor Doom" appeared and started destroying **** should have been earlier and then they actually built him up as a threat from there. Nope, they didn't do that, they just crammed him into the last 15 minutes of the movie and didn't even take the liberties to even make him resemble Doom. He is clearly the worst aspect of the movie, not to mention he was by far the worst actor here. If you want over acting, this is your man. Good god, what the hell happened here? The rest of the cast are clearly good actors, but this jackoff was phoning everything in as if he was the new Hayden Christiansen. Oh, but the worst part is, the last hour of the movie is just flat out BORING!! In the end, I give this thing no one wanted a 4/10. But hey, look on the bright side, it sure as hell ain't Jonah Hex bad.

[toddly6666]

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True about everything and certainly right about not being unwatchable like Jonah Hex. It's really rare that a mainstream action movie or even a cowboy movie can be unwatchable yet Jonah Hex has achieved that. It's almost impossible to sit through Jonah Hex.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by Vlad Draculi

Where do I want to start? How about the good? It's better than Hulk and X-Men 3. In fact, the first 45 minutes were actually pretty decent. If this had been a straight up science fiction movie about a brainy child who finds a way to travel to a parallel dimension and they set out to explore that, it would have been a good movie despite the fact that none of the cast had any chemistry. However, it goes downhill the moment they get their powers. There was absolutely NOTHING super heroey about this at all. In fact, it felt like they decided to drag out the first half hour of a super hero movie into a 100 minute movie and called it a day. Everything that occurred when "Doctor Doom" appeared and started destroying **** should have been earlier and then they actually built him up as a threat from there. Nope, they didn't do that, they just crammed him into the last 15 minutes of the movie and didn't even take the liberties to even make him resemble Doom. He is clearly the worst aspect of the movie, not to mention he was by far the worst actor here. If you want over acting, this is your man. Good god, what the hell happened here? The rest of the cast are clearly good actors, but this jackoff was phoning everything in as if he was the new Hayden Christiansen. Oh, but the worst part is, the last hour of the movie is just flat out BORING!! In the end, I give this thing no one wanted a 4/10. But hey, look on the bright side, it sure as hell ain't Jonah Hex bad.

People don't believe me when I tell them that nothing happens in this movie, good to see you agree. It's a flat out bore fest.

[chcknhwk68]

Originally Posted by motorheadache95

I know studio execs make dumb decisions a lot, but I'd be skeptical that they are going to sit on the rights out of spite and misguided pride. At least I would hope so.

If they were smart and wanted to recoup as much of their money as possible, they'd either license the characters to Marvel like Sony did with Spider-Man, or just simply sell it back and be done with it.

The ONLY way you could drum up interest for the Fantastic Four at this point is by putting them in the Marvel/Avengers universe-- maybe do a big story-arc with Dr. Doom and Galactus as the next thing after Avengers: Infinity War (or even involve them somehow!).

That would be so EPIC , I like the way you think .

[partridge]

And surprise, surprise, this is being put out as one of the early 4K disc releases!!!

I hate it when studios prey on consumers like this; need some 4K content? Well you're gonna have to buy whatever crap we can be bothered to release for now. We're not going to waste the good stuff on early adopters! Oh, you can pay double the price of a blu-ray too, those extra pixels cost you know...

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by Vlad Draculi

Where do I want to start? How about the good? It's better than Hulk and X-Men 3. In fact, the first 45 minutes were actually pretty decent.

F4 wasn't as bad as the reviews/word-of-mouth, but damn, X-Men 3 is at least average and Hulk is a pretty damn good movie. That's more than can be said of F4.

[Vlad Draculi]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

F4 wasn't as bad as the reviews/word-of-mouth, but damn, X-Men 3 is at least average and Hulk is a pretty damn good movie. That's more than can be said of F4.

Nah, I found Hulk to be a snoozefest that also looked ugly. His size kept changing and the only time he ever did anything was to save Betsy from the giant dogs. So amazing to see the Hulk beat up dogs. Never mind Abomination, Leader, or Windigo when you can have him fight dogs. Oh, and then they pretty much turned his dad into Absorbing Man.

X-Men 3 is terrible and worse than Spider-Man 3. It is the Mortal Kombat Annihilation of the comic book world. Too many characters thrown in and too many characters killed just for the sake of it.

Fant4stic at least tried to develop their characters even if it failed.

[Hellraiserfan]

Just watched it last night and it wasn't nearly the s*** fest most made it out to be.

As it's been said numerous times, the movie is actually fairly solid up until that "1 year later" bit. I've never been much of a fan of the FF comics so I just watched it as it's own sci-fi film and not really as an adaptation.

I wish we could have seen Trank's full vision because as it's been known, Kinberg had all those reshoots done which I believe made up quite a bit of the subpar last act.

I guess because my expectations were so low that fight with Doom wasn't as bad or as quick as I was expecting. It just sucks there was no real buildup for him, he comes back and starts wrecking shop and they immediately follow after him. Doom was kind of lame all around but I won't deny that him making people's heads explode was kind of cool.

It really sucks because I liked the cast for this film and they kind of got the shaft with how it turned out.

[Talal86]

The main problem for me, is that the movie took itself way too seriously, and tried hard to be a 'non superhero movie', I think it's the wrong comic for that. I mean they literally had to dim the light throughout the movie to give the tone of 'oh it's a dark and gritty'

oh and the acting/ lack of chemistry between the actors did not help, at all

[Hellraiserfan]

Originally Posted by Talal86

The main problem for me, is that the movie took itself way too seriously, and tried hard to be a 'non superhero movie', I think it's the wrong comic for that. I mean they literally had to dim the light throughout the movie to give the tone of 'oh it's a dark and gritty'

oh and the acting/ lack of chemistry between the actors did not help, at all

Yeah, there was that too. It could have been a bit lighter and they didn't act like a "family" really. I guess they were doing the 'ol save more development between them for a sequel.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by Vlad Draculi

Nah, I found Hulk to be a snoozefest that also looked ugly. His size kept changing and the only time he ever did anything was to save Betsy from the giant dogs. So amazing to see the Hulk beat up dogs. Never mind Abomination, Leader, or Windigo when you can have him fight dogs. Oh, and then they pretty much turned his dad into Absorbing Man.

X-Men 3 is terrible and worse than Spider-Man 3. It is the Mortal Kombat Annihilation of the comic book world. Too many characters thrown in and too many characters killed just for the sake of it.

Fant4stic at least tried to develop their characters even if it failed.

Agree to disagree then. I'll admit Hulk works better as a plain ol' movie, rather than big-budget summer blockbuster superhero film, because that's really not what it was going for in the first place. But X-Men 3 worse than Spider-Man 3? That's a bold claim.

[Pizzamorg]

I'm not trying to be contrary but I disagree with your criticisms. I'm not saying that the film is flawless, that'd be ludicrous but to say nothing happens in the movie just isn't true. No it isn't some big action packed CGfest like most Marvel outputs today, playing more as a sort of low-key drama but that isn't the same as having "nothing happen".

Likewise, I found Fantastic Four's tone far more on point than say... Nolan's Batman films, which likewise took themselves way too seriously but for me didn't commit themselves fully enough to being truly separate from their comics and legitimate films of their own right. I'm not saying its not done by Fantastic Four either, but I get a sense that often people seem to want to have their cake and eat it. They demand a movie play out in a certain way, they do that, but then it doesn't play out in a certain way of a certain way you want it to play out and start pulling at hairs for the sake of having something to moan about while a film is popular to hate.

[Foggy]

Michael B. Jordan says he would return to play Johnny Storm given the chance, and that Fox didn't set out to make a bad film.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/01/1...hat-didnt-work

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by Foggy

Michael B. Jordan says he would return to play Johnny Storm given the chance, and that Fox didn't set out to make a bad film.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/01/1...hat-didnt-work

Of course he'd say that knowing for a fact there won't be a sequel.

[Vlad Draculi]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

Agree to disagree then. I'll admit Hulk works better as a plain ol' movie, rather than big-budget summer blockbuster superhero film, because that's really not what it was going for in the first place. But X-Men 3 worse than Spider-Man 3? That's a bold claim.

What does a summer blockbuster have to do with Hulk's quality control? It's a garbage movie regardless because it isn't even trying to be accurate to the source material. It's like Ang Lee just read, "Guy turns into a monster when he gets angry and he loves a girl who is a general's daughter. GOT IT!"

There's a lot more to it than just that.

And no, Spider-Man 3 is better. I can actually sit through it and enjoy parts of it, such as the jazz club scene and Peter when he is dancing down the street trying to act all badass when he isn't. Plus, Spider-Man 3 only features 7 characters while X3 features about 86.

Originally Posted by Foggy

Michael B. Jordan says he would return to play Johnny Storm given the chance, and that Fox didn't set out to make a bad film.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/01/1...hat-didnt-work

Of course he would. He is still under contract and being paid to say such. Plus, they can't say they wouldn't return, otherwise people would bother buying the movie on video.

[Dalekbuster523Bluray]

Originally Posted by Hellraiserfan

I wish we could have seen Trank's full vision because as it's been known, Kinberg had all those reshoots done which I believe made up quite a bit of the subpar last act.

I don't think it would have made much difference to be honest, given all the problems behind-the-scenes.

Originally Posted by Talal86

The main problem for me, is that the movie took itself way too seriously, and tried hard to be a 'non superhero movie', I think it's the wrong comic for that. I mean they literally had to dim the light throughout the movie to give the tone of 'oh it's a dark and gritty'

Agreed. Making Fantastic Four a dark/gritty film makes about as much sense as making a political thriller based on Thomas The Tank Engine. If Fox wanted to make a dark/gritty superhero movie, they'd have been better off doing it with another solo Wolverine film than F4.

Originally Posted by Foggy

Michael B. Jordan says he would return to play Johnny Storm given the chance, and that Fox didn't set out to make a bad film.

http://uk.ign.com/articles/2016/01/1...hat-didnt-work

Well of course they didn't. Nobody sets off to make a bad film; that's the important thing to remember. It's just a shame when all the hard work and effort turns out to be for nothing, especially in regards to A: a mistake in the tone that could have been solved in the pre-production stage and B: behind the scenes issues/disagreements.

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by Vlad Draculi

What does a summer blockbuster have to do with Hulk's quality control? It's a garbage movie regardless because it isn't even trying to be accurate to the source material. It's like Ang Lee just read, "Guy turns into a monster when he gets angry and he loves a girl who is a general's daughter. GOT IT!"

There's a lot more to it than just that.

And no, Spider-Man 3 is better. I can actually sit through it and enjoy parts of it, such as the jazz club scene and Peter when he is dancing down the street trying to act all badass when he isn't. Plus, Spider-Man 3 only features 7 characters while X3 features about 86.

Re: Hulk, there is a lot more to the movie than that. The increase in size is a physical manifestation of Hulk getting angrier, which was a poetic license on Lee's part which I think works quite well. The movie is really about the sins of two fathers being visited upon their children, and how all four character have to come to terms with the monsters inside them all (Betty to a lesser extent than the other three). Like I've said, I love that movie. I enjoyed Incredible Hulk as well, but that's more of a generic superhero flick.

As for SM3 vs. X3, I dunno what to say since the scenes you highlighted in SM3 are among the ones I hate the most. The movie just makes no sense and tries to mash too many plot thread and character arcs into an unsatisfying movie. X-Men 3 at least tells its story economically and has at least two incredible action sequences. It's not a great movie but I think it gets a lot more hate than it deserves.

[chris_sc77]

This movie wasnt good but it wasn't horrible either.
The big problem is that it really isn't a movievat all . at least in terms of telling a proper story. There's one act here. Maybe two acts. Certainly a 3rd act is nowherecto even be found. The direction isn't good. Screenplay sucks. Acting is weak by all. The movie goes by so fast it was over just as it got going and feels so strange and unsatisfying yet I never hated it . It still is better than Man of Steel though .
2 out of 5