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Old 05-25-2013, 09:58 AM   #72041
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You should try Eyes without a Face or Spoorloos. Those are more thriller than horror.
The Vanishing (Spoorloos) is one of my top ten Criterion titles and one of my favorite movies ever. Eyes Without a Face is an essential title as well, and it's an oddly beautiful film. Carnival of Souls is another brilliant Criterion horror title. Videodrome, of course, is quite perfect as a Criterion Blu-ray, and it was the peak of Cronenberg's horror days.

I wish that the Val Lewton horror films would see Blu-ray release someday.

I enthusiastically recommend the 1956 and 1978 versions of Invasion of the Body Snatchers, as they are perfect combinations of horror and sci-fi (and they both look great on Blu-ray).

Of course, you can't go wrong with The Shining, my favorite Kubrick film.
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Old 05-25-2013, 10:44 AM   #72042
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Some interesting responses to my original posting of Salo vs. In the Realm of the Senses. Speaking of more highly controversial films, could you imagine if Ken Russells' The Devils is ever released on Criterion? I know the British Film Institute recently released this on DVD (but not BD), but it seems like that film is so dangerously controversial, that extra inflaming element of religion is what holds any distributor back in releasing its uncut version (that may never see the light of day).
They didn't have access to a master which could have been made HD as far as I'm aware, nor could they use the "Director's Cut" which to this date I think has only been licensed for a few screenings at the BFI Southbank. (Used to work there and so heard this from the guys working on the DVD). It'd be nice if CC could do something, but this is Warners we're talking about here, and they rarely license their films out to anyone (there's been what, just Badlands licensed out to CC so far, right?) So the chances of them doing so for this film which would require more work and which they clearly would rather forget about, I'd say is rather slim.
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Old 05-25-2013, 01:38 PM   #72043
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^From what a fellow movie buff told me, the BFI declined to make a blu-ray without access to a complete uncut source. I frankly wasn't too taken by Russell's film, I was much more absorbed by this Polish movie called Mother Joan of The Angels, which takes the same outline for a different perspective. I would highly recommend that film to people here.
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Old 05-25-2013, 02:10 PM   #72044
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Cannibal Holocaust is really brutal to sit through...I wouldnt do it a second time
I also didnt like the endings for Innkeepers or House of the Devil
I think the problem is we see so many horror films that we already know what is going to happen and sometimes the directors want to try and get creative with the payoff and it bombs
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For me that title would go to the immensely unpopular House of the Devil. I absolutely love the placement of "One Thing leads to Another" by The Fixx

You should try Eyes without a Face or Spoorloos. Those are more thriller than horror.
House of the Devil is my favorite horror film of the last decade, maybe even longer.
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Old 05-25-2013, 02:12 PM   #72046
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Just watched Following and I loved it. Any other recommendations in that same vein? Something that is neo-noir/mystery in the criterion collection? I have seen the 39 steps as well.
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Old 05-25-2013, 02:23 PM   #72047
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So much is made of Cannibal Holocaust, but it really wasn't that tough to watch outside of the animal killings. Salo is a harder watch, but a greater film.

The stuff I can't bring myself to watch are the really hardcore horror/gore films like the August Underground films or the Guinea Pig series. Also, I really don't think I could make it through A Serbian Film. That's where is gets a little too disturbing for me.
I dunno, that scene where..
[Show spoiler]the guy gets his penis chopped off

was pretty hard to watch, only because it looked so real.
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Old 05-25-2013, 02:26 PM   #72048
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Just watched Following and I loved it. Any other recommendations in that same vein? Something that is neo-noir/mystery in the criterion collection? I have seen the 39 steps as well.
Maybe The Killing, Diabolique, Night of the Hunter, Kiss me Deadly...

Noirs are pretty great.
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Old 05-25-2013, 02:33 PM   #72049
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I leave out of this thread for a short while and return to find people talking about cannibalism, deviant sexual obsession, and torture.

I will never blind-buy Salo. I'm a big chicken, and the description of the film does not appeal to me. I may watch it online if Criterion decides to put it on Hulu for free during one of their Christmas holiday weekends, Valentine's Day, or something of the sort, but it's not a film that I can imagine myself ever watching more than once.

On a happier note, I'm back from my Saturday morning run and ready to start watching the three-hour plus Italian version of The Leopard.
This will be the last of three adjacent Criterion Collection viewings, and I will be returning to The Twilight Zone after that.

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Old 05-25-2013, 02:44 PM   #72050
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Night of the Hunter shipped last night. Should get it sometime next week from Best Buy.
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Old 05-25-2013, 03:04 PM   #72051
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I picked up Videodrome for $20 a few days ago, I have never seen it but I love Cronenberg. Is it worth the blind buy for those who have seen it?
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Old 05-25-2013, 03:09 PM   #72052
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I picked up Videodrome for $20 a few days ago, I have never seen it but I love Cronenberg. Is it worth the blind buy for those who have seen it?
Videodrome is my favorite David Cronenberg film, and I have strong nostalgic ties to it, because I grew up in the 1980s. It's an eerily prophetic film about the psychology (and physiology, to an extent) of our relationship with technology and media.

A heads-up not to let the images in the title menu scare you away. It will make sense once you watch the film.
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Old 05-25-2013, 03:29 PM   #72053
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Videodrome is my favorite David Cronenberg film, and I have strong nostalgic ties to it, because I grew up in the 1980s. It's an eerily prophetic film about the psychology (and physiology, to an extent) of our relationship with technology and media.

A heads-up not to let the images in the title menu scare you away. It will make sense once you watch the film.
+1

Videodrome was my first Criterion and I loved it. Thanks to that, I've gotten into Cronenberg and now he's one of my favorite directors.
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Old 05-25-2013, 03:29 PM   #72054
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Just watched Following and I loved it. Any other recommendations in that same vein? Something that is neo-noir/mystery in the criterion collection? I have seen the 39 steps as well.
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Old 05-25-2013, 03:44 PM   #72055
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Well, yeah, it's easy to figure it out, but horror films have never been about plot for me. Atmosphere and attitude is key, and House of the Devil has them in spades.
That definitely is a good attitude towards it. I always go into a horror film hoping for the shit to get scared out of me, but that always never happens lol.

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See now here's a film I love. I also loved The Innkeepers just as much. Ti West is one of the bright lights of modern horror right now imho.
I think I used to own The Innkeepers on DVD, but I don't recall. Sounds like it has some potential.

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I'm with iScottie. There's no force on earth could compel me to watch Salo.
I'd definitely have to be in the mood to see it. Once I finish watching my regular films in alphabetical order, I'm going to watch all of my Criterions and when I get to the S's...

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Just watched Following and I loved it. Any other recommendations in that same vein? Something that is neo-noir/mystery in the criterion collection? I have seen the 39 steps as well.
There's definitely SO MANY good titles in The Criterion Collection, but since you want film-noir / mysteries, I'd recommend these:
  • Diabolique
  • Double Life of Veronique (because it's the best film ever made)
  • Game
  • Killing
  • Kiss Me Deadly
  • Lady Vanishes
  • Last Year at Marienbad
  • M
  • Man Escaped
  • Man Who Knew Too Much
  • Ministry of Fear
  • Night of the Hunter
  • On The Waterfront
  • Repulsion
  • Revanche (because it's also one of the best films ever made)
  • Sweet Smell of Success
  • Three Colors Trilogy (because it's one of the best sets since sliced bread)
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Old 05-25-2013, 03:52 PM   #72056
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There's definitely SO MANY good titles in The Criterion Collection, but since you want film-noir / mysteries, I'd recommend these:
  • Diabolique
  • Double Life of Veronique (because it's the best film ever made)
  • Game
  • Killing
  • Kiss Me Deadly
  • Lady Vanishes
  • Last Year at Marienbad
  • M
  • Man Escaped
  • Man Who Knew Too Much
  • Ministry of Fear
  • Night of the Hunter
  • On The Waterfront
  • Repulsion
  • Revanche (because it's also one of the best films ever made)
  • Sweet Smell of Success
  • Three Colors Trilogy (because it's one of the best sets since sliced bread)
How does Double Life stack up with the Three Colors?
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Old 05-25-2013, 04:13 PM   #72057
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It seems like the Palme d'Or will most likely be between Blue Is The Warmest Color and Like Father, Like Son.
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Old 05-25-2013, 04:23 PM   #72058
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How does Double Life stack up with the Three Colors?
I prefer The Double Life by a long shot, but that doesn't mean Three Colors is a fantastic work and one of the best additions to the Collection!
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Old 05-25-2013, 04:25 PM   #72059
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Something Wild
directed by Jonathan Demme

There are numerous challenges to writing effectively about a film over a quarter of a century old, and Lord knows, I'm not the one to transcend them. Belonging to a later generation, It's tempting to fall back on established critical consensus while only topically discussing its intrinsic links to social and political movements. Fortunately, the core ideals of Jonathan Demme's film have not yet lost their potency.

One week removed from my final Spring exams, the summer full-time work season has just begun. After a week of long, grueling hours in the blistering sun, hauling land-surveying equipment and hammering wooden stakes into the West Texas desert soil, it is evident my body has not yet adjusted the demands of the job. Leaving me both physically exhausted and filled with ennui. Thus, revisiting Jonathan Demme's mid-1980's masterwork after a routine work day, I found a degree of commonality with the gawky, soft spoken hero, Charles Driggs (Jeff Daniels). Though, I am not a paper pushing banker, his nervous temperament in the initial sequences where his seemingly ordinary existence is derailed by a free thinking, bohemian "belle noiseuse," (played by the very likeable Melanie Griffith) was instantly recognizable as pure wish-fullfillment. Charlie has little in the way of intrusive mannerisms or dangerous streaks as an early retort,"I channel my rebellion into the mainstream," lands with a comic thud.

After some very herky-jerky driving, the couple stop at a motel, she quickly seduces and hand-cuffs him to the bed-railng, enabling Lulu to force on him a telephone conversation with his boss. He has evidently never been late to work and now must tell his boss that he will not be coming in. Afterwards, the couple dine at an expensive restaurant. Lulu initiates a "dine-and-dash" leaving Charlie distraught and pierced by the judging eyes of the customers and employees. The cumulative effect of these scenes suggest a farce like Planes, Trains and Automobiles. We suspect Lulu (mirroring John Candy) will eventually loosen the tight grip she has on her wacky facade and reveal the damaged individual inside, but no, Johnathan Demme respects the integrity of his characters too much as he circumvents the expected romantic comedy tropes and fulfills the promise of the bold title. After buying a new blue suit, Lulu symbolically unlocks the handcuffs Charlie has been wearing since the motel: "I'm setting you free."

It is soon revealed that Lulu has "kidnapped" Charlie to serve as her date to the ten year class of '76 reunion. Amidst all the bicentennial bric-a-brack, hats, American Flags & red, white and blue balloons, Demme suggests a vision of suburban life just as far reaching, but never quite as nihilistic as the one shown in David Lynch's Blue Velvet. Though there is a direct similarity in that both films feature a psychotic antagonist that our awakened hero struggles against, tonally, they are very different films. David Lynch film unearths the the corrosive underbelly of everyday suburban existence from the American psyche, while Demme comfortably underplays it, choosing to highlight the details of the ordinariness of Lulu's classmates. The fact that they are so anonymous, well-mannered & harmless manages to be more frightening than the presence of Frank Booth's deranged cronies.

One of the many small miracles of Something Wild is that it manages to be a bold, socially conscious film without shoving it in our faces like the similarly themed films about awakening, the pre-millennial Fight Club and American Beauuty being key examples. Not unlike the best of Demme's films, a reliable emotional hook is favored over topical speechifying and histrionics. The same way his 1998 film, Beloved (a radically different film in tone), is more about the human experience of slavery as opposed to it's politics, Something Wild is more about coloring Charlie's transformation into a more relaxed individual than speechifying about the lecherous Wall Street world which he occupies.

Something Wild is a film of simple closeups, two-shots and establishing shots, it is quite assured. In an underplayed stroke of visual mastery, the late scenes where Charlie is observing Ray and Lulu, waiting for the opportunity to rescue her, we see Charlie finally comfortable in his skin. These scenes effectively mirror the earlier ones of his social discomfort in the upscale restaurant. When he changes his bloodied shirt at a convenience store in from of other customers and casually converses with the cashier, we sense a changed person.

Furthermore, the bold use of colors do not constitute an affectless quirk (a la Wes Anderson), but rather reveal the film's modus operandi. Taj Fujimoto's cinematography is deceptively traditional- establishing shots, two-shots and close-ups-, but when paired with bold use of color, it provides a perfect counterpoint to the personal narrative of a square guy tapping into the danger within: bright colors trapped within a simple frame. Only in the later scenes of triumph, the contrast between Charlie's plainness and his swirling surroundings is finally subdued. The violent bathroom showdown between Charlie and Ray, constitutes another deceptively subtle employment of color as the national colors are on full display. The tight camera work rarely allows all three colors to coexist in the same image, but Craig McKay's rapid fire editing unites them through montage that recalls Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho. Red & White: the blood stains on Charlie and Ray's white tee shirts, Charlie's white shorts and the plain walls. Blue: Ray's blue Jeans, the blue towels, the wave patterns on the wall and Lulu's light blue shirt.

Something Wild gives the appearance of a document of a bygone era, but unlike another film that dared to cover much of the same ground, Oliver Stone's Wall Street (which was released one year later), it manages to carve its own trans-temporal identity apart from the topical social musings. Sure, the soundtrack is comprised of distinctly 1980's artists: Talking Head's frontman David Byrne; experimental artists, John Cale and Laurie Anderson; New Wave and Post-Punk artists, The Feelies, UB40, Fine Young Cannibals and New Order; but, the film eschews easy categorization: it is more than just an effective genre-hopping excursion into 1986. The film has thematic weight and a clear moral conscience as it notes the tight grip corporate America has on our necks and the necessity for companionship in increasingly impersonal times. As Charlie asides, "it's better to be a live dog than a dead lion."


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I prefer The Double Life by a long shot, but that doesn't mean Three Colors is a fantastic work and one of the best additions to the Collection!
I may blind buy this at the next sale. I loved the Three Colors. Thanks for the recommendation, Scottie!
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