Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread - Page 375 - Blu-ray Forum

Steedeel · 03-20-2018, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Cutter_

Actually a lot of these younger people just are subscription based or free options. It doesn't always mean pirating. YouTube has pretty much anything you can find. Many movies or concert blu-rays can be found on YouTube. In fact I'm sure I could find quite a few of my library movies on YouTube. Also, Crackle and other digital channels offer free movies, heck even Vudu now does.

And if the younger generation do pay, they will pay for Netflix and stream. And, they will pay for a music subscription like Spotify, or use a free music option like Pandora or iHeart Radio. They won't buy CD's or songs from iTunes. We older people grew up on the only way to get something was to buy it, but now those movies and music are readily available for free or a subscription.

This is why I feel digital and physical basically have the same lifespan. To me it's not like Digital is the way to go now. Subscription services are already eating into the digital market (as well as the physical market). Subscription based services and free options are the future, in my opinion.

But, after saying that I see the DVD still being produced ten years from now. It's still a solid seller. Blu-rays probably too, but I'm not sure about 4K blu-ray, as this seems to be the smallest marketshare. There's still many people who purchase these items (young and old, but they are in the minority), so I don't see them going away too soon.

That’s still pirating watching recent films on YouTube.

Oh and UHD is a newish format so it’s only natural it’s market share is small for now.

Batman1980 · 03-20-2018, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

VHS is the future

Invest in Laserdisc now.

master gandhi · 03-20-2018, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

That’s still pirating watching recent films on YouTube.

Oh and UHD is a newish format so it’s only natural it’s market share is small for now.

Is watching it on a TV in a bar pirating too?

Michael24 · 03-20-2018, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

I really wonder what everyone thinks in terms of the longevity of blu-ray?

Blu-rays will be around for the forseeable future.

Cutter_ · 03-20-2018, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

That’s still pirating watching recent films on YouTube.

Oh and UHD is a newish format so it’s only natural it’s market share is small for now.

First part, not if the movie is public domain. Many older movies are public domain, like Night of the Living Dead. If not, then pirating, yes.

Second part. We'll see. 4K will definitely work in digital. Especially when iTunes upgrades your movies to 4K for free. Physical, we'll see. DVD still outsells Blu-ray, and always will. I would assume 4K will always have the smallest market share between DVD, blu-ray, and 4K blu-ray. So, who knows the future of the format? That's my guess, anyway, but it's just an opinion.

ccunning1 · 03-20-2018, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

VHS is the future

Just takes a bit of clear tape sometimes...

Steedeel · 03-20-2018, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by master gandhi

Is watching it on a TV in a bar pirating too?

Yes but landlords need to have a licence to show movies. If they do, no it’s not.

It’s no different to sports. Public house landlords need a license to show live football. If they don’t its’s breaking the law.

You are just being awkward sir!

20th Century Boy · 03-20-2018, 10:42 PM

Once the 5G networks are up and running in the US, we'll have to kiss a lot of things goodbye. Everything from blu-rays to ethernet ports. Hear me now, quote me later.

Steedeel · 03-20-2018, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cutter_

First part, not if the movie is public domain. Many older movies are public domain, like Night of the Living Dead. If not, then pirating, yes.

Second part. We'll see. 4K will definitely work in digital. Especially when iTunes upgrades your movies to 4K for free. Physical, we'll see. DVD still outsells Blu-ray, and always will. I would assume 4K will always have the smallest market share between DVD, blu-ray, and 4K blu-ray. So, who knows the future of the format? That's my guess, anyway, but it's just an opinion.

No high quality format will ever dominate the market. The masses just like cheap and nasty. We know this. UHD will have its niche and like you say, subscription is king. Digital HD is a niche also and a stepping stone to subscription much like Apple MP3 downloads was to subscription music.

As for people watching YouTube films , that makes me want to vomit.

ccunning1 · 03-20-2018, 10:47 PM

It feels like you don't actually own it if it's just internet streaming, though.

HD Goofnut · 03-20-2018, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by 20th Century Boy

Once the 5G networks are up and running in the US, we'll have to kiss a lot of things goodbye. Everything from blu-rays to ethernet ports. Hear me now, quote me later.

Please. Physical media will be around for quite some time. The US is too big of a country to be entirely dependent on an older internet backbone.

AmishParadise · 03-20-2018, 10:50 PM

Blu-ray will be here and gone before we ever see The Abyss and True Lies offered on anything other than DVD in non-anamorphic widescreen.

HD Goofnut · 03-20-2018, 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ccunning1

It feels like you don't actually own it if it's just internet streaming, though.

That's because you don't.

jackinbox · 03-20-2018, 11:28 PM

CDs are still being made and people have been predicting the death of CD since iTunes first launched.

Physical media is declining at a far lower rate overseas than it is here. So even if that time comes, imports will still be an option. In the coming years, a region-free player is going to be essential to those who love to collect films.

master gandhi · 03-20-2018, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yes but landlords need to have a licence to show movies. If they do, no it’s not.

It’s no different to sports. Public house landlords need a license to show live football. If they don’t its’s breaking the law.

You are just being awkward sir!

I know. I was just being tongue-in-cheek. I thought it sounded funny that watching something on YouTube could be considered pirating, but I know that it’s the uploader doing the pirating and the viewers are just taking advantage of that YouTuber’s strange generosity/middle finger to the system.

I too prefer the system of law and order to the Wild West alternative.

Jay Mammoth · 03-20-2018, 11:41 PM

Tomorrow.

svenge · 03-20-2018, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AmishParadise

Blu-ray will be here and gone before we ever see The Abyss and True Lies offered on anything other than DVD in non-anamorphic widescreen.

The Japanese DVD for True Lies is anamorphic.

DukeTogo84 · 03-20-2018, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Jack

You could go to one of probably 50 threads on the same topic to see what everyone thinks.

I guess this topic gave you the opportunity to not be constructive and to say something that might have made you feel better for opening up the thread? No idea.

How about next time, post links to those threads instead of an unnecessary comment?

svenge · 03-20-2018, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

How about next time, post links to those threads instead of an unnecessary comment?

Isn't it the OP's job to see if any existing threads cover such topics first?

DukeTogo84 · 03-20-2018, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by svenge

Isn't it the OP's job to see if any existing threads cover such topics first?

I've been here pretty frequently in the last few weeks and didn't see any topics on it, which is why I asked.

03-20-2018, 10:50 PM	#7492
AmishParadise Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Central Florida Home Theater Gallery:23 Trading Score:2	The one thing I can tell you for certain... :-P Blu-ray will be here and gone before we ever see The Abyss and True Lies offered on anything other than DVD in non-anamorphic widescreen. Last edited by AmishParadise; 03-20-2018 at 11:02 PM.

03-20-2018, 10:42 PM	#7488
20th Century Boy Power Member Member since:Dec 2016 Location:Gentrification Central	Once the 5G networks are up and running in the US, we'll have to kiss a lot of things goodbye. Everything from blu-rays to ethernet ports. Hear me now, quote me later.

03-20-2018, 10:47 PM	#7490
ccunning1 Active Member Member since:Oct 2014	It feels like you don't actually own it if it's just internet streaming, though.

03-20-2018, 11:28 PM	#7494
jackinbox Senior Member Member since:Jan 2007 4K collection:68 Blu-ray collection:68 Digital collection:19 iTunes collection:3 Trading Score:326	CDs are still being made and people have been predicting the death of CD since iTunes first launched. Physical media is declining at a far lower rate overseas than it is here. So even if that time comes, imports will still be an option. In the coming years, a region-free player is going to be essential to those who love to collect films.

03-20-2018, 11:41 PM	#7496
Jay Mammoth Blu-ray Champion Member since:Mar 2011 Location:Buffalo NY Home Theater Gallery:5 4K collection:583 Blu-ray collection:1607 DVD collection:63 iTunes collection:14 Prime collection:1 Trading Score:24	Tomorrow.

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