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Old 01-14-2010, 12:40 AM   #61
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cool, didnt know you knew him. so are you going to buy more from him?

cool so he is trust worthy and ships fast, sounds like two big pluses already, thanks
Well...Brad is a Dynaudio dealer town in Tennessee and we all hangout at the Dynaudio Forums at AVS. Funny thing is Brad was so enamored by my Blue Sapphires(as he has the mochas) that he asked if he could use my pictures to promote them I was gonna buy more cables from him but my budget does not permit.

I can vouch for him. Worry not!

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Well...Brad is a Dynaudio dealer town in Tennessee and we all hangout at the Dynaudio Forums at AVS. Funny thing is Brad was so enamored by my Blue Sapphires(as he has the mochas) that he asked if he could use my pictures to promote them I was gonna buy more cables from him but my budget does not permit.

I can vouch for him. Worry not!
ok, thanks
 
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Well...Brad is a Dynaudio dealer town in Tennessee and we all hangout at the Dynaudio Forums at AVS. Funny thing is Brad was so enamored by my Blue Sapphires(as he has the mochas) that he asked if he could use my pictures to promote them I was gonna buy more cables from him but my budget does not permit.

I can vouch for him. Worry not!
actually he just emailed me back with a deal for this one in 8ft http://www.needledoctor.com/Tara-Lab...al-Power-Cable

he said it was a special order that someone canceled and that he could still sell it for $80 to me i said sold!!
 
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actually he just emailed me back with a deal for this one in 8ft http://www.needledoctor.com/Tara-Lab...al-Power-Cable

he said it was a special order that someone canceled and that he could still sell it for $80 to me i said sold!!
Congrats Ryan! I'm glad you've found a great deal. It won't be long 'till you have full Tara labs cabling!
 
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I think "westom" should chime in on this . It'd be interesting hearing his take on power cords.
I hate to say it, but I agree. I can understand some of the valid reasons for upgrading certain interconnect cables, and even speaker wire, but power cables making a difference in your equipment is simply ridiculous IMO.

A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. Does everyone agree with that statement? So why, then, would a cable built ANY differently than the standard builder's-grade electrical wiring that distributes electricity to your outlet have ANY effect on that power getting from your outlet to your equipment? It makes NO sense whatsoever, and I cannot think of a single scientific reason why it would. The possible advantage I can think of would be improved shielding, which would not effect the power going to your equipment, but the EM fields generated around the cord (if I remember my EE-basics class from years ago).

Now, I'm willing to listen to facts and I can certainly change my opinion if the case for multi-hundred dollar power cables is scientifically made, but I don't see that happening (and the subjective "so-and-so could hear a difference" argument is NOT scientific nor does it contain facts or measurable data). A fancy 4-6' section of the power cabling, out of a 30-100' power run from your breaker to your equipment is not going to magically change/improve the power you are getting.
 
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I hate to say it, but I agree. I can understand some of the valid reasons for upgrading certain interconnect cables, and even speaker wire, but power cables making a difference in your equipment is simply ridiculous IMO.

A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. Does everyone agree with that statement? So why, then, would a cable built ANY differently than the standard builder's-grade electrical wiring that distributes electricity to your outlet have ANY effect on that power getting from your outlet to your equipment? It makes NO sense whatsoever, and I cannot think of a single scientific reason why it would. The possible advantage I can think of would be improved shielding, which would not effect the power going to your equipment, but the EM fields generated around the cord (if I remember my EE-basics class from years ago).

Now, I'm willing to listen to facts and I can certainly change my opinion if the case for multi-hundred dollar power cables is scientifically made, but I don't see that happening (and the subjective "so-and-so could hear a difference" argument is NOT scientific nor does it contain facts or measurable data). A fancy 4-6' section of the power cabling, out of a 30-100' power run from your breaker to your equipment is not going to magically change/improve the power you are getting.
Read this: http://www.gcaudio.com/resources/howtos/powercords.html
 
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Congrats Ryan! I'm glad you've found a great deal. It won't be long 'till you have full Tara labs cabling!
thanks man, brad said he will ship it tomorrow. thanks again for your recommendation.
 
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actually he just emailed me back with a deal for this one in 8ft http://www.needledoctor.com/Tara-Lab...al-Power-Cable

he said it was a special order that someone canceled and that he could still sell it for $80 to me i said sold!!
I'm glad to see you found what you're looking for. I hope the cable turns out to be a good value.
 
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I hate to say it, but I agree. I can understand some of the valid reasons for upgrading certain interconnect cables, and even speaker wire, but power cables making a difference in your equipment is simply ridiculous IMO.

A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link. Does everyone agree with that statement? So why, then, would a cable built ANY differently than the standard builder's-grade electrical wiring that distributes electricity to your outlet have ANY effect on that power getting from your outlet to your equipment? It makes NO sense whatsoever, and I cannot think of a single scientific reason why it would. The possible advantage I can think of would be improved shielding, which would not effect the power going to your equipment, but the EM fields generated around the cord (if I remember my EE-basics class from years ago).

Now, I'm willing to listen to facts and I can certainly change my opinion if the case for multi-hundred dollar power cables is scientifically made, but I don't see that happening (and the subjective "so-and-so could hear a difference" argument is NOT scientific nor does it contain facts or measurable data). A fancy 4-6' section of the power cabling, out of a 30-100' power run from your breaker to your equipment is not going to magically change/improve the power you are getting.
Better Power cords audio and even video performance will be more noticed when they are used with dedicated 20 amp lines with special wire run from the Circuit Box to special outlet receptacles and receptacle covers as has been done in my Listening Room/Home Theater. I am not recommending that most members of the forum do this because it is expensive, but there is a decided difference in the performance.

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Better Power cords audio and even video performance will be more noticed when they are used with dedicated 20 amp lines with special wire run from the Circuit Box to special outlet receptacles and receptacle covers as has been done in my Listening Room/Home Theater. I am not recommending that most members of the forum do this because it is expensive, but there is a decided difference in the performance.

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Hey, Rich. When you got your romex wire and receptacles, did you also get any particular type of breaker for your panel? I may run four (4) new 20amp circuits to my HT in preparation for more amps down the road.
 
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Hey, Rich. When you got your romex wire and receptacles, did you also get any particular type of breaker for your panel? I may run four (4) new 20amp circuits to my HT in preparation for more amps down the road.
now you guys got me thinking.....

is my standard power for my house enough to handle my setup? i use two outlets for my front end and a couple of other outlets for my subs. now you got me worried
 
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now you guys got me thinking.....

is my standard power for my house enough to handle my setup? i use two outlets for my front end and a couple of other outlets for my subs. now you got me worried
As long as you aren't tripping the breakers you are fine, but its always better to have everything on one dedicated circuit, or if you use too much power, two or more circuits, all off the same side of the electrical box.
 
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is my standard power for my house enough to handle my setup? i use two outlets for my front end and a couple of other outlets for my subs. now you got me worried
Ryan: It's always worth a try. I take it that your circuit breakers for your HT room are 15 amps? It can get very expensive if you have an electrician do it. Unless you are very handyor know someone that is.
 
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Hey, Rich. When you got your romex wire and receptacles, did you also get any particular type of breaker for your panel? I may run four (4) new 20amp circuits to my HT in preparation for more amps down the road.
Lou: are you thinking 1 20amp circuit breaker per outlet? That's gonna be wicked
 
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As long as you aren't tripping the breakers you are fine, but its always better to have everything on one dedicated circuit, or if you use too much power, two or more circuits, all off the same side of the electrical box.
Or burning the receptacle and power cord prong in my case prior to switching to a dedicated 20am circuit breaker and 20amp receptacles.
 
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Hey, Rich. When you got your romex wire and receptacles, did you also get any particular type of breaker for your panel? I may run four (4) new 20amp circuits to my HT in preparation for more amps down the road.
Hi Lou,

No, I did not get any particular special breaker panel. In fact, the 3 20 amp lines were installed into the original panel for the house. I think that the electricians indicated that the special romex wire that I installed (Cryoed) was actually 10 gauge and could support a 30 amp line. 1 of the 20 amp lines is actually shared by the 2 subwoofers. The rest of the gear runs through the other 2 20 amp lines.

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Or burning the receptacle and power cord prong in my case prior to switching to a dedicated 20am circuit breaker and 20amp receptacles.
Yowch!
All my equipment is running fine off one dedicated 20amp circuit, although I don't think I've ever had everything going all at once.
 
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Lou: are you thinking 1 20amp circuit breaker per outlet? That's gonna be wicked
Yes, I may just do five since that is how many spare slots I have left in my breaker panel. This will give a dedicated circuit per amp plus the fith will be for the rest of my gear.

Do you think that is overkill? Should I do two amps per circuit?

This is a relatively cheap DIY project I can do myself, hence the name DIY.
 
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Yes, I may just do five since that is how many spare slots I have left in my breaker panel. This will give a dedicated circuit per amp plus the fith will be for the rest of my gear.

Do you think that is overkill? Should I do two amps per circuit?

This is a relatively cheap DIY project I can do myself, hence the name DIY.
As long as you have the room to expand, why not? If you think you might need more circuits later for something else though, you might not want to go quite that crazy
 
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Yes, I may just do five since that is how many spare slots I have left in my breaker panel. This will give a dedicated circuit per amp plus the fith will be for the rest of my gear.

Do you think that is overkill? Should I do two amps per circuit?

This is a relatively cheap DIY project I can do myself, hence the name DIY.
Lou if you can DIY, then by all means do the whole basement. The 20 amp circuit breakers cost no more than $10 each plus the cost of the spool of wire you need for the all of them. Easily under $100.
 
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