Cross Of Iron

[Arkadin]

ok and that reviewer says it is "believed to be intentional".
now whether he is is talking about the director or whoever did the transfer I have no idea.
and he doesn't mention anything about making this release unwatchable so I'm assuming that is an opinion you came up with correct?
maybe pro-b will offer some thoughts on this issue since it was not brought up in the bd.com review.

[Supernaut]

Correct. In my opinion this release in unwatchable. How's that? plain enough for you?

[Arkadin]

wow, for a top contributor you're quite the rude one aren't you.

[EPOCH]

:: Question ::
I know this movie came out on blu-ray in the UK and know it's region B. I know playstation 3 is regionless. I was wondering if it would play on my PS3 if I order it?

:: Movie Review ::
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Cross.../21018/#Review

[Tech-UK]

You will need a Region B or Region FREE player. Your PS3 will be region A, which will result in no playback. Also be careful of PAL content, as that connot be played back on a lot of US players/TV's.

[EPOCH]

That sucks so probably no chance or Cross of Iron unless they transfer it to the US.

[BigNickUK]

Already a thread here

https://forum.blu-ray.com/united-kin...ross-iron.html

[mike siegel]

Originally Posted by Supernaut

Upon a proper screening, the sharpening is not an issue, picture clarity is fine. Not as much grain as one would imagine, but I guess you can't have it all.

The blanket green tint, however is an issue. It makes the movie completely unwatchable.

Any official word on this Mike?

Official? I don't speak out for anybody but me...
I had nothing to do with this release except that I offered my skills & archive to produce as many supplements as possible.

I don't like the green of course. Maybe it was done by someone quite young. All TV-crap and current action films are one or two-colored. A look going back to BEN HUR (Fred Niblo) . Restauration seems to always destroy something, is that the price for it? Compare the details of the shells flying out of Steiner's machine gun when he shots Triebig.
I have a very good 35mm print and I'm sure Sam & John Coquillon wanted the fat natural colors to film always had (until now). I wish I could be the President of film restauration (Planet Earth, all countries). My word being the final descision
The WILD BUNCH & BULLITT would look brighter, GOOD,BAD & UGLY had Sergio's original gunshot sounds back, CROSS OF IRON wouldn't be Kermit's nightmare of warfare, 1:66 WideScreen films would exists as 1:66 and 1:85 versions... (CROSS: what can we do? you win two, lose one again..)
Gotta run now, Steve McQueen book needs further work..

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by Supernaut

Upon a proper screening, the sharpening is not an issue, picture clarity is fine. Not as much grain as one would imagine, but I guess you can't have it all.

The blanket green tint, however is an issue. It makes the movie completely unwatchable.

I somehow missed your comments earlier, but I would like to respond to a few now.

1. I am unsure why you assume that the color grading on the DVD release was correct? In fact, you don't have to be an expert to see that there is a very serious issue with the blacks - they are all over the place, gravitating closer to grays.

2. I am not seeing the green tint you are (and in case it is unclear, the memory flashbacks have a different color identity).

3. Intentionally or not, your comments make it sound as if there is some very serious degraining issue, and that a substantial amount of the film grain has been wiped out. I don't agree. The corrections that have been performed, to me, appear in sync with what is typically done on Criterion releases. There is plenty of grain throughout the entire film, and detail is not compromised.

4. Finally, I am sorry to say it but a lot of the new restorations that are coming out will bring out color nuances, details, and a whole arsenal of other things that are likely to surprise a lot of people, and not just casual fans but experts as well. (To give you a couple of examples: This new Cannes restoration of The Leopard is unlike anything I have seen or have recollections of; I feel the same about The Ten Commandments; Wings of Desire is another one; and Senso, which is a film I have seen probably more times than any other Italian film).

All in all, as I noted in the review, the Blu-ray release is not perfect, but it represents a massive upgrade in terms of quality, and I am extremely happy with it. Great package.

Pro-B

[SymbioticFunction]

The dvdbeaver screenshot comparisons do show a green tint:

http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film/dvdcom...rossofiron.htm

But despite that, the comparisons show that it's the best current version of the film.

Edit: I could swear that every several mins or so, there was also a very brief bright fluctuation, or a white flash, or some other type of weirdness that I can't quite explain. Odd.

[pro-bassoonist]

Sorry. The screenshots posted there are not representative of what is on the actual disc. And this is a fact, not an opinion.

Second, I am not seeing a green tint here:
https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/scree...18&position=16

Third, I would not judge the color grading of the Blu-ray against the SDVD. It is pointless, because anyone doing so assumes that the SDVD has the correct color-scheme. It is painfully obvious that it does not.

Pro-B

[SymbioticFunction]

That screenshot also has a green tint. This is reminding me of LOTR.

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by SymbioticFunction

This is reminding me of LOTR.

It is not reminding me of LOTR. (and I happen to like Peter Jackson's corrections quite a lot).

[The Driver]

I picked this up yesterday for £6. Couldn't resist.

Not seen it in many many years (never a fan of it but do like the cast/director) so it'll be good -hopefully- to reassess it. The special features will certainly be appreciated!

[Kaleu]

Does anyone know whether there will eventually be a region A release?

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Kaleu

Does anyone know whether there will eventually be a region A release?

I'll buy it, that's for sure.

[samdaman94]

Won this release months ago Still haven't watched it! Never seen the film

Hoping to watch it over Christmas!

[Nielsb90]

Looking at the screenshots at dvdbeaver, I see no problem with the "green tint".. All the DVD releases on there have different color schemes as well.. The detail looks amazing! I'll pick this one up sometime soon!

Also - a very small "complaint" about the review.. The movie is set in 1943 while they were still in Russia, and not "the final days of World War 2"

[mike siegel]

Today I received the sad news that Vadim Glowna passed away last night at a Berlin hospital. It was quite sudden. Over the last 10 years he had become a good friend. He smuggled me into the VIP areas of the Berlin Film Festival and wrote the foreword for my Peckinpah book. He loved my PASSION & POETRY projects and supported me quite a bit. Over the years he didn't do that many interviews but he gave me a great one which made it hard for me to chose some exerpts for PASSION & POETRY (the feature length film). But last year I was able to use the biggest part of that footage for the CROSS OF IRON blu-ray I co-produced and I'm glad he finally saw this landmark film restored and released with my 2 hours of supplements. For him the film was most important as it changed his life and he also became a film maker shortly afterwards.
I can't express my sad feelings, he will be missed forever.

[Nielsb90]

Ah thats sad news! Just saw the movie for the first time a couple of days ago and it was great.. He did a good job