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Old 12-04-2015, 03:02 PM   #61
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I wonder if there would be a way with new curved screens to release a 4k bluray version that would fit? They could figure out a way through meta data or something to allow the picture to fit correctly on a curved screen without black bars on top and bottom.
A curved screen has no impact on the aspect ratio. The actual ratio of 3-projector Cinerama films was about 2.56:1. However, many Cinerama theatres could not project full height and they tended to project closer to 2.75:1, which is similar to the Ultra-Panavision 70mm ratio.
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Old 12-04-2015, 03:05 PM   #62
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I have all the Cinerama titles except this one and Windjammer. Glad I held off (did so because the PQ reviews were no so good) and will get this one when it comes out.
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Old 12-04-2015, 05:15 PM   #63
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But I thought he said there were no plans for a Blu-Ray of the new restoration? So there is no way to double dip?
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Old 12-04-2015, 06:09 PM   #64
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There are no plans to release this. The blu-ray that is out is the best edition you will be able to purchase for home video.
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Old 12-05-2015, 04:06 AM   #65
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I have just been informed that This Is Cinerama was recently restored from the original negatives which were deemed unusable when the first restoration was done.

Please read it in this page: http://www.in70mm.com/news/2015/best...rama/index.htm

According to Thomas Hauerslev, the in70mm website owner the new restoration is finished, and he had a chance to see it.

I was very upset, by the way, and I refuse to double dip when the restorators reissue it on a new Blu-Ray release. I already this with My Fair Lady and Spartacus, but this is beginning to feel unnerving.
At the time of release, the first restoration was the best they believed was possible with what they had available. They now have the ability to make a better restoration, and they did. Why should you be upset with them?

What I'm upset about is that they won't release this new remaster on blu-ray.
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Old 12-05-2015, 04:56 AM   #66
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There may be no immediate plans to release it on Blu-ray but it will definitely get released at some point.
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Old 12-10-2015, 03:47 PM   #67
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I see a French version on eBay with a different cover.

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Old 12-10-2015, 04:00 PM   #68
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A curved screen has no impact on the aspect ratio. The actual ratio of 3-projector Cinerama films was about 2.56:1. However, many Cinerama theatres could not project full height and they tended to project closer to 2.75:1, which is similar to the Ultra-Panavision 70mm ratio.
Cinerama theatre screens varied from 2:1 to 3:1 AR. Screen curvature varied from 90 to 146 degrees.
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Old 12-10-2015, 04:38 PM   #69
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Hate to bring a dead thread back to life but great news from Dave Strohmaier, he's restored This is Cinerama from the OCN. And while there are no plans to re-release it on Blu-ray, the new version looks fantastic compared to the previous remastering.

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Clearer PQ and more picture info on the sides.
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Old 11-20-2016, 11:22 PM   #70
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There may be no immediate plans to release it on Blu-ray but it will definitely get released at some point.
Having just watched Best of Cinerama which used section of this restoration, I would certainly be interested if they decided to rerelease a Blu-ray copy of This is Cinerama.


I don't have any Cinerama theaters (there are now so few) but hopefully prints from this restoration will make the rounds to these.

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Old 11-21-2016, 11:34 AM   #71
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Having just watched Best of Cinerama which used section of this restoration, I would certainly be interested if the decided to rerelease a Blu-ray copy.

I don't have any Cinerama theaters (there are now so few) but hopefully prints from this restoration will make the rounds to these.
Perhaps I'm confused by your post, but are you aware that The Best of Cinerama was recently released on Blu-ray?

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Old 11-21-2016, 04:13 PM   #72
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I agree with tris49, I would also purchase a new Blu-Ray of the THIS IS CINERAMA restoration based on how portions of it look in BEST OF CINERAMA.

They completed the full restoration -- it would be a shame if it didn't get released.
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Old 05-07-2018, 04:53 PM   #73
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Hate to bring a dead thread back to life but great news from Dave Strohmaier, he's restored This is Cinerama from the OCN. And while there are no plans to re-release it on Blu-ray, the new version looks fantastic compared to the previous remastering.

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I don't find a topic for the re-release of 'This is Cinerama' so resurrecting this one. Flicker Alley's street date is tomorrow, Tuesday, May 8, 2018. I ordered directly from Flicker Alley and it's being delivered today. Details on the re-release:

https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=22803

I never bought the first version, so excited to get the remastered one.

Mark
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I never bought the first version, so excited to get the remastered one.

Mark
Spare a thought for those of us who funded the new version by paying for the old version ;(
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Old 05-15-2018, 10:14 PM   #75
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I am fortunate to be a resident of Dayton, Ohio. I was in High School/College when the Cinerama revival was happening at the Neon Movies. What a treat.
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When I was a young welp, I saw both It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World and How The West Was Won at the Cinerama Theater in mid-town Manhattan. They were unforgettable experiences even with the smudge-like lines between the screens. I have the Blu-ray of How the West Was Won and when I got my 65" LG C7 OLED set last year, I fired up the Smilebox version of the movie. It looked odd at first but in a dark room, with OLED's ability to produce inky blacks, the top and bottom curved mattes disappeared. I was able to let my eyes relax and just focus on the actual onscreen image. It turned out to be a unique experience with the illusion of the super-wide screen being created pretty effectively. Amazon just delivered my This is Cinerama Blu-ray and the viewing characteristics are similar even if the video clips are show their age and the state of movie technology at the time. I'll get a better look at it when the room is dark tonight. My feeling is that an OLED set is the best (and maybe the only) way to watch these Smilebox videos.
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Old 05-18-2018, 09:30 AM   #77
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Shame it couldn't be scanned in 4K considering the native resolution it was filmed at.
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When I was a young welp, I saw both It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World and How The West Was Won at the Cinerama Theater in mid-town Manhattan. They were unforgettable experiences even with the smudge-like lines between the screens. I have the Blu-ray of How the West Was Won and when I got my 65" LG C7 OLED set last year, I fired up the Smilebox version of the movie. It looked odd at first but in a dark room, with OLED's ability to produce inky blacks, the top and bottom curved mattes disappeared. I was able to let my eyes relax and just focus on the actual onscreen image. It turned out to be a unique experience with the illusion of the super-wide screen being created pretty effectively. Amazon just delivered my This is Cinerama Blu-ray and the viewing characteristics are similar even if the video clips are show their age and the state of movie technology at the time. I'll get a better look at it when the room is dark tonight. My feeling is that an OLED set is the best (and maybe the only) way to watch these Smilebox videos.
I just watched the Blu-ray on my Panasonic TC P60VT60 plasma. I pulled my chair up to just over 4 feet away from the screen and... WOW! Goose bumps. I remember seeing Cinerama in the theatre as a young child, and while this in-home version obviously can’t be the same as the original, it really does do it justice. A most pleasant and unexpected Blu-ray treat!
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At the dawn of the 1950s, when the popularity of home television sets was threatening attendance at movie theaters, filmmakers and studios were compelled to find ways to preserve the “wow” factor of the motion picture experience. The Cinerama widescreen projection process, which was developed by Fred Waller and utilized a more expansive aspect ratio in order to involve the peripheral vision of viewers, simultaneously displayed three different 35mm strips on a massive curved screen while stereophonic sound played all around the audience. The end result, which predated IMAX by decades and ushered in the emergence of CinemaScope and Panavision, provided an immersive experience that allowed people to feel as though they were actually along for a ride.

The 1952 full-length promotional, This is Cinerama, which was produced by Lowell Thomas, Merian C. Cooper, and Robert L. Bendick, premiered in New York City and was subsequently presented as a road show at select theaters to showcase the new format. I had seen this movie before during my childhood, but, although I recall specific key sequences, I cannot, for the life of me, remember exactly where I was introduced to it. This idea of experiencing the splendor of this film on a television at home seems somewhat wrong at first, but the new Blu-ray, which uses the curve-screen Smilebox simulation, allows today's fans to see it as presented at the road shows of years past, albeit on a smaller scale.

This is Cinerama begins with a black-and-white standard 4:3 aspect ratio history lesson from Lowell Thomas, who explains the gradual advances of motion picture technology. After this intro, the curtains open, the screen lights up in color, and we are treated to a point-of-view perspective of a roller coaster ride at Rockaways' Playland in New York. From there, viewers are taken to a production at the La Scala opera, a majestic overhead sweep of Niagara Falls, a Vienna Boys' Choir performance, the boat canals of Venice, a Spanish bullfight, and to a number of United States natural landmarks.

The different sequences in this movie range from intensely engaging (the roller coaster ride) to gloriously picturesque (the Grand Canyon) to somewhat somnambulistic (a church choir), but the overall effect is still masterfully entertaining even in this day and age. I can only imagine what 1952 audiences must have thought of this new technique. The most amusingly interesting stretch takes place at Cypress Gardens in Florida, where we are are transported through the scenery to a group of Southern belles who change into swimsuits and water-ski across the landscape, because the narrator and the camera eye focus on one woman who is late to everything.

The novelty of Cinerama soon gave way to more conventional widescreen processes, but its mark on the industry is still felt when we enjoy stadium seating spectacles in today's theaters. As in 1952, theater numbers are challenged once again by evolving home theater technology, but I still find that nothing can take the place of seeing an opening night premiere of a new movie in a darkened room with a large audience, as most recently evidenced during the cliffhanger ending of Avengers: Infinity War, where the reactions of everyone around me enhanced the appeal.

This Flicker Alley Deluxe Edition, like the Warner Bros. presentation of How the West Was Won, is a Smilebox feast for the eyes. The picture quality is stupendous, and the commentary track guides us along with increased historical context.

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Shame it couldn't be scanned in 4K considering the native resolution it was filmed at.
HTWWW was scanned at 2K per panel and the travelogues were done at 3K, so if someone wanted to go back to the original scans and do the cleanup/color work again 4K editions are possible.

I doubt the travelogues would be worth going back to because of the film element issues, but How the West Was Won would be a prime candidate to revisit for UHD. While I doubt they did HDR scans, the higher resolution would look amazing and maybe they can use Dolby Atmos for the 7-channel sound.
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