Spearhead From Space - 15th July 2013 (classic Doctor Who)

[Deciazulado]

Ok I found a listing stating a running time of 97:08. Since the US disc runtime is 101:15 (very close to 25/24 + 24/23.97 slowdowns) I assume that running time listing is correct. I've approved Jason One's format submission too.

I still would hope a member from here said specifically enough : "Yes I have the UK Spearhead and I tested its native output and my display/player says 1080i 50Hz" but hopefully the updated spec is correct. (I don't have the Spearhead disc)


I think we have most of the Doctor Who and related US/Canada vs UK and other 50Hz countries' specs correct but there's so many release iterations.

[Jason One]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

Ok I found a listing stating a running time of 97:08. Since the US disc runtime is 101:15 (very close to 25/24 x 60/59.94 slowdowns) I assume that running time listing is correct. I've approved Jason One's format submission too.

Thanks Deciazulado!

[pet42]

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

Well I still would hope a member from here said specifically enough : "Yes I have the UK Spearhead and I tested its native output and my display/player says 1080i 50Hz" but hopefully the updated spec is correct. (I don't have the Spearhead disc) ...

I have this UK disc which is encoded in 1080i / 25 fps. The time of 97:08 [min:sec] is also correct:

                                                                                                                Total   Video                                             
Title                                                           Codec   Length  Movie Size      Disc Size       Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track                          Secondary Audio Track
-----                                                           ------  ------- --------------  --------------  ------- ------- ------------------                        ---------------------
00004.MPLS                                                      AVC     1:37:08 24.361.402.368  44.174.680.767  33,44   29,99   DTS-HD Master 2.0 1731Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) 

DISC INFO:

Disc Title:     DR_WHO_SPEARHEAD_FROM_SPACE
Disc Size:      44.174.680.767 bytes
Protection:     AACS
BD-Java:        No
Extras:         50Hz Content
BDInfo:         0.5.8

PLAYLIST REPORT:

Name:                   00004.MPLS
Length:                 1:37:08.000 (h:m:s.ms)
Size:                   24.361.402.368 bytes
Total Bitrate:          33,44 Mbps

VIDEO:

Codec                   Bitrate             Description     
-----                   -------             -----------     
MPEG-4 AVC Video        29992 kbps          1080i / 25 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1

AUDIO:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
DTS-HD Master Audio             English         1731 kbps       2.0 / 48 kHz / 1731 kbps / 24-bit (DTS Core: 2.0 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 24-bit)

SUBTITLES:

Codec                           Language        Bitrate         Description     
-----                           --------        -------         -----------     
Presentation Graphics           English         43,582 kbps                     

FILES:

Name            Time In         Length          Size            Total Bitrate   
----            -------         ------          ----            -------------   
00004.M2TS      0:00:00.000     0:23:43.000     5.949.407.232   33.447          
00005.M2TS      0:23:43.000     0:24:25.000     6.123.098.112   33.437          
00020.M2TS      0:48:08.000     0:24:19.000     6.098.589.696   33.440          
00024.M2TS      1:12:27.000     0:24:41.000     6.190.307.328   33.439          

CHAPTERS:

Number          Time In         Length          Avg Video Rate  Max 1-Sec Rate  Max 1-Sec Time  Max 5-Sec Rate  Max 5-Sec Time  Max 10Sec Rate  Max 10Sec Time  Avg Frame Size  Max Frame Size  Max Frame Time  
------          -------         ------          --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  --------------  
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3               0:10:42.480     0:03:01.240     30.359 kbps     39.262 kbps     00:11:16.400    37.863 kbps     00:11:27.480    37.636 kbps     00:11:27.360    151.795 bytes   307.618 bytes   00:10:51.480    
4               0:13:43.720     0:04:55.440     30.339 kbps     39.546 kbps     00:18:24.160    39.177 kbps     00:18:22.960    38.888 kbps     00:18:29.120    151.695 bytes   230.412 bytes   00:18:36.640    
5               0:18:39.160     0:03:39.599     30.529 kbps     39.734 kbps     00:22:08.920    39.149 kbps     00:22:08.680    37.136 kbps     00:22:03.560    152.644 bytes   267.313 bytes   00:21:58.600    
6               0:22:18.760     0:01:24.240     20.571 kbps     28.901 kbps     00:23:39.080    24.174 kbps     00:23:17.000    22.427 kbps     00:23:12.320    102.856 bytes   415.074 bytes   00:23:39.760    
7               0:23:43.000     0:03:24.880     28.875 kbps     36.126 kbps     00:24:24.200    35.273 kbps     00:24:27.080    34.909 kbps     00:24:26.920    144.376 bytes   258.161 bytes   00:24:15.760    
8               0:27:07.880     0:05:47.239     30.877 kbps     35.509 kbps     00:27:31.720    34.357 kbps     00:27:28.240    33.843 kbps     00:27:25.160    154.387 bytes   235.947 bytes   00:27:56.840    
9               0:32:55.120     0:03:14.840     29.910 kbps     35.844 kbps     00:34:44.239    34.053 kbps     00:36:04.400    33.952 kbps     00:35:59.360    149.548 bytes   276.658 bytes   00:33:20.400    
10              0:36:09.960     0:05:21.920     29.748 kbps     39.910 kbps     00:40:45.359    37.756 kbps     00:40:42.080    36.591 kbps     00:40:37.000    148.738 bytes   255.769 bytes   00:37:53.360    
11              0:41:31.880     0:05:41.399     31.573 kbps     34.049 kbps     00:46:41.200    33.834 kbps     00:46:21.720    33.737 kbps     00:46:18.560    157.867 bytes   235.464 bytes   00:44:49.239    
12              0:47:13.279     0:00:54.720     20.386 kbps     29.845 kbps     00:48:04.440    22.345 kbps     00:48:00.440    21.113 kbps     00:47:55.400    101.931 bytes   527.641 bytes   00:48:05.279    
13              0:48:08.000     0:04:30.400     31.818 kbps     38.893 kbps     00:49:50.800    37.802 kbps     00:49:46.800    37.062 kbps     00:49:47.160    159.091 bytes   300.129 bytes   00:48:40.760    
14              0:52:38.400     0:04:56.759     30.261 kbps     36.363 kbps     00:56:02.800    36.057 kbps     00:55:58.239    35.887 kbps     00:55:57.000    151.304 bytes   231.906 bytes   00:52:46.400    
15              0:57:35.160     0:03:45.240     30.233 kbps     34.066 kbps     00:57:55.240    33.550 kbps     00:57:55.240    33.286 kbps     00:57:55.160    151.163 bytes   251.221 bytes   00:59:57.640    
16              1:01:20.400     0:05:00.679     29.864 kbps     38.412 kbps     01:01:49.320    37.005 kbps     01:01:49.200    34.695 kbps     01:01:47.600    149.321 bytes   295.602 bytes   01:01:29.800    
17              1:06:21.080     0:05:07.520     29.958 kbps     34.537 kbps     01:11:06.440    33.641 kbps     01:11:02.479    33.477 kbps     01:07:01.360    149.789 bytes   251.771 bytes   01:06:23.080    
18              1:11:28.600     0:00:58.399     19.988 kbps     26.172 kbps     01:12:25.200    21.165 kbps     01:11:29.080    20.517 kbps     01:11:29.080    99.942 bytes    212.933 bytes   01:11:33.600    
19              1:12:27.000     0:04:44.159     31.310 kbps     40.812 kbps     01:12:32.520    38.242 kbps     01:15:24.680    37.935 kbps     01:15:20.400    156.548 bytes   285.294 bytes   01:12:59.760    
20              1:17:11.160     0:04:10.600     23.572 kbps     33.196 kbps     01:18:39.680    32.603 kbps     01:18:36.880    32.379 kbps     01:18:08.240    117.860 bytes   233.149 bytes   01:18:10.720    
21              1:21:21.760     0:02:50.479     25.716 kbps     32.160 kbps     01:24:02.200    31.570 kbps     01:23:58.200    31.554 kbps     01:23:49.240    128.579 bytes   240.227 bytes   01:23:32.080    
22              1:24:12.240     0:04:26.800     34.265 kbps     39.849 kbps     01:25:52.440    38.928 kbps     01:27:51.800    38.391 kbps     01:27:49.000    171.325 bytes   258.928 bytes   01:25:32.680    
23              1:28:39.040     0:07:34.600     33.016 kbps     40.109 kbps     01:32:33.240    39.263 kbps     01:33:55.520    38.142 kbps     01:33:55.480    165.081 bytes   237.410 bytes   01:30:40.880    
24              1:36:13.640     0:00:54.359     20.047 kbps     26.588 kbps     01:36:14.120    21.674 kbps     01:36:14.120    20.754 kbps     01:36:14.120    100.308 bytes   197.499 bytes   01:36:14.440    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00004.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     1422,920                29.991                  5.334.355.800   29.012.459      
00004.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           1422,920                1.742                   309.765.704     1.881.530       
00004.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           1422,920                44                      7.849.695       44.785          
00005.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     1464,920                29.992                  5.492.057.466   29.870.103      
00005.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           1464,920                1.727                   316.306.796     1.927.576       
00005.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           1464,920                42                      7.767.443       44.348          
00020.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     1458,920                29.990                  5.469.113.920   29.745.323      
00020.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           1458,920                1.728                   315.170.388     1.920.018       
00020.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           1458,920                47                      8.609.751       49.236          
00024.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     1480,920                30.001                  5.553.617.596   30.204.790      
00024.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x86            DTS-HD MA       eng (English)           1480,920                1.727                   319.733.432     1.943.612       
00024.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           1480,920                41                      7.522.882       43.121

[Jason One]

Thanks pet42, it's great to have that settled!

Deciazulado, watch for my reply in the Miracle Day thread.

[Deciazulado]

Thanks pet42 and Jason One.


OK. The Miracle Day frame rate matter has been moved and can be found (resolved) starting here:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...14#post9631814

[Mr Kite]

Picked this up the other day and i am surprised there is no thread for this on here as it is a fantastic release. Just watched the first two episodes and bloody hell why did i not view classic Dr Who after all these years.

The story, PQ and presentation are spot on.

Highly Recommended.

[Jack.A.Napes]

I second that recommendation! Great disc of a true classic of classic Dr Who.

Shame it's the only one from classic Who shot entirely on film rather than videotape and therefore benefiting from a blu-ray presentation. Actually The Sontaran Experiment might be another, but as a two-parter it'd need some serious extras included to get a blu-ray bump.

[Mr Kite]

To be honest mate i am quite shocked this has not been discussed in the UK forum before now, mean great release and Steelbook available also, why?.

[Andrew354]

There's already a UK thread here...

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=210225

UK steelbook thread here also...

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=273048

[Mr Kite]

Originally Posted by Andrew354

There's already a UK thread here...

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=210225

UK steelbook thread here also...

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=273048

Oh man did a search and turned up the NA thread only??

[chip75]

Originally Posted by tele1962

Oh man did a search and turned up the NA thread only??

Easiest thing to do is put the title in the search bar then check to see if it has forum links.



The two threads are at the bottom (or just click Forum).

[Mr Kite]

Picked this up the other day here it is a fantastic release. Just watched the first two episodes and bloody hell why did i not view classic Dr Who after all these years.

The story, PQ and presentation are spot on.

Highly Recommended.

[Mr Kite]

Mods please close.

[Andrew354]

Originally Posted by tele1962

Picked this up the other day here it is a fantastic release. Just watched the first two episodes and bloody hell why did i not view classic Dr Who after all these years.

The story, PQ and presentation are spot on.

Highly Recommended.

Yeah - it's a great story. John Pertwee is my favourite doctor.

The Blu-Ray looks fantastic as well. It's such a shame that this was the only classic DW story to be shot on film.
If only the BBC had filmed them all on 16mm and saved all the episodes

Still, I'm looking forward to the BD of Power Of The Daleks next year. It will be interesting to see what the animation looks like in HD and colour.

[Fnord Prefect]

Originally Posted by tele1962

Picked this up the other day here it is a fantastic release. Just watched the first two episodes and bloody hell why did i not view classic Dr Who after all these years.

The story, PQ and presentation are spot on.

Highly Recommended.

Eight of the nine stories in Pertwee's first two seasons are great or bordering on it with Colony In Space being the odd one out.

Inferno (series 7 story 4) is such good fun and genuinely exciting, in fact it's perhaps the best Doctor Who story ever.

Such a shame that these two season are in a few cases by far the crumbiest looking re surviving elements.

[Fnord Prefect]

Originally Posted by Jack.A.Napes

I second that recommendation! Great disc of a true classic of classic Dr Who.

Shame it's the only one from classic Who shot entirely on film rather than videotape and therefore benefiting from a blu-ray presentation. Actually The Sontaran Experiment might be another, but as a two-parter it'd need some serious extras included to get a blu-ray bump.

All of the outdoor shooting for Tom Baker's first series, including the Sontaran Experiment and Terror of the Zygons (as you probably know this was intended for series 12 but bumped to opening story of 13), was shot on video.

[Jack.A.Napes]

Originally Posted by Fnord Prefect

All of the outdoor shooting for Tom Baker's first series, including the Sontaran Experiment and Terror of the Zygons (as you probably know this was intended for series 12 but bumped to opening story of 13), was shot on video.

Thanks for clarifying. In my memory I assumed that The Sontaran Experiment was on film as it's all location shooting.

[Fnord Prefect]

Originally Posted by Jack.A.Napes

Thanks for clarifying. In my memory I assumed that The Sontaran Experiment was on film as it's all location shooting.

I only know this for sure because I recently watched the Robot and Sontaran Experiment DVDs and the making of documentaries for both talk about the production crew were really happy about finally being allocated an outside broadcast truck and as of then state of the art light weight video cameras.

[malcy30]

Originally Posted by Fnord Prefect

Eight of the nine stories in Pertwee's first two seasons are great or bordering on it with Colony In Space being the odd one out.



Inferno (series 7 story 4) is such good fun and genuinely exciting, in fact it's perhaps the best Doctor Who story ever.



Such a shame that these two season are in a few cases by far the crumbiest looking re surviving elements.

That's because many survive only as NTSC recovered from US TV stations as the BBC junked their copies so PAL -> NTSC -> PAL.
This is why Inferno is so bad.

Others only have black and white film recordings and then colour has been added back in various ways (chromo dots, off air NTSC domestic video or colourisation).

[Tornado Verde]

Originally Posted by Fnord Prefect

All of the outdoor shooting for Tom Baker's first series, including the Sontaran Experiment and Terror of the Zygons (as you probably know this was intended for series 12 but bumped to opening story of 13), was shot on video.

Sorry to be pedantic but only Robot and Sontaran Experiment where shot entirely on OB video. All location shooting for Genesis of the Daleks, Revenge of the Cybermen and Terror of the Zygons was completed on film.

From memory, Seeds of Doom and Stones of Blood were the only other all-video Tom Baker productions.