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Old 09-23-2016, 01:08 PM   #1
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1. Jurassic Park
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1. Jurassic Park
2. who gives a shit
Well, you're consistent.

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Shame on you for not giving JP a perfect score... and double shame for giving TLW such a high score that it's only 1 point lower than the original!!
I always used to rate it 7/10, but after my last viewing I bumped it up to 8. Its flaws seem to matter less and less, and I just enjoy the hell out of it. The original will always be the all around most well-made of the bunch, but in some ways TLW speaks to me more.

Above all I enjoy the comparatively darker, even somewhat mean-spirited tone, and I feel like there's a greater sense of "danger" than in the other three movies. In JP and JPIII very few characters die, and those who do "earn it" by being grown men with guns and an affinity for shooting/blowing things up, or outright slimy and villainous. TLW on the other hand opens with an attack on a little girl and follows it with a long string of people being injured or killed, both men and women, good and bad. At times it gets surprisingly brutal, like Eddie being torn in half during a heroic moment in which he saves the other "good guys", or Carter stomped on and crushed. It even kills a dog, something many other blockbusters hesitate to do. All of this makes it feel more intense and "realistic" to me in that of course dinosaurs wouldn't care about your gender, age or if you're a human's beloved pet.

JW is a bit more like TLW in this regard (high body count and diversity of victims), but so over-the-top that it doesn't have quite the same effect.
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Well, you're consistent.



I always used to rate it 7/10, but after my last viewing I bumped it up to 8. Its flaws seem to matter less and less, and I just enjoy the hell out of it. The original will always be the all around most well-made of the bunch, but in some ways TLW speaks to me more.

Above all I enjoy the comparatively darker, even somewhat mean-spirited tone, and I feel like there's a greater sense of "danger" than in the other three movies. In JP and JPIII very few characters die, and those who do "earn it" by being grown men with guns and an affinity for shooting/blowing things up, or outright slimy and villainous. TLW on the other hand opens with an attack on a little girl and follows it with a long string of people being injured or killed, both men and women, good and bad. At times it gets surprisingly brutal, like Eddie being torn in half during a heroic moment in which he saves the other "good guys", or Carter stomped on and crushed. It even kills a dog, something many other blockbusters hesitate to do. All of this makes it feel more intense and "realistic" to me in that of course dinosaurs wouldn't care about your gender, age or if you're a human's beloved pet.

JW is a bit more like TLW in this regard (high body count and diversity of victims), but so over-the-top that it doesn't have quite the same effect.
Well argued!

If only the "good guys" weren't extremely unlikable, with Roland being the most sympathetic character and he's ostensibly an antagonist.
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Old 09-25-2016, 02:18 AM   #3
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Well argued!

If only the "good guys" weren't extremely unlikable, with Roland being the most sympathetic character and he's ostensibly an antagonist.
I kinda dig that whichever side you're on morally, most characters have kind of unappealing personalities. Personally I don't find them all unlikable though. Ian is pretty fun with his dry humor, I like that Roland isn't portrayed as completely one-dimensional (it would have been too easy to do that with a man who's into killing rare/endangered animals for sport in a movie with an animal rights message) and Kelly is no more or less likable than the other kids in the series. Hammond only has a small part but he's his usual charming self. Ludlow is a villain I love to hate, he's just such a weasel and I love when papa T. rex feeds him to the baby.

One thing I've never understood about Roland though, why is he so intent on killing the male T. rex specifically? It can't be because the male is larger and more ferocious, as they both seem about equal in that respect. My best guess is it's because the female could be (or become) pregnant, I know hunters and fishers sometimes leave females alone for that reason.

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I'd say:

Jurassic Park
Jurassic World
Jurassic Park: The Lost World
Jurassic Park 3

I haven't seen the third one since 2001. My dad took my sister and I to see it in the theater. I hated it. Any of the main characters could've got bumped off and I wouldn't feel anything. I don't even own it.
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Old 09-25-2016, 08:56 AM   #5
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I kinda dig that whichever side you're on morally, most characters have kind of unappealing personalities. Personally I don't find them all unlikable though. Ian is pretty fun with his dry humor, I like that Roland isn't portrayed as completely one-dimensional (it would have been too easy to do that with a man who's into killing rare/endangered animals for sport in a movie with an animal rights message) and Kelly is no more or less likable than the other kids in the series. Hammond only has a small part but he's his usual charming self. Ludlow is a villain I love to hate, he's just such a weasel and I love when papa T. rex feeds him to the baby.

One thing I've never understood about Roland though, why is he so intent on killing the male T. rex specifically? It can't be because the male is larger and more ferocious, as they both seem about equal in that respect. My best guess is it's because the female could be (or become) pregnant, I know hunters and fishers sometimes leave females alone for that reason.
It's Sarah and Nick who need to die in a fire. I hate, hate, hate them so much. They were responsible for the deaths of Eddie and all those InGen employees.

It's easy to make Vince Vaughn unlikable but kinda hard to do with Julianne Moore. Well played, Spielberg! Well played.
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Old 09-22-2016, 11:59 PM   #6
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Jurassic Park 3D - 4.5/5
Jurassic Park - 4/5
Lost World - 3.5/5
Jurassic World - 3/5
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Old 09-23-2016, 12:32 AM   #7
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Jurassic Park - 3.5/5
The Lost World - 3.5/5
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Old 09-23-2016, 04:13 AM   #8
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Old 09-23-2016, 07:27 AM   #9
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Old 09-26-2016, 02:27 PM   #10
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Jurassic Park 3D - 4.5/5
Jurassic Park - 4/5
Lost World - 3.5/5
Jurassic World - 3/5
Jurassic Park 3 - 2/5
Seriously? You are differentiating between the first movie in 2D and 3d?
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Jurassic Park - 5/5
Jurassic World - 5/5
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Jurassic Park is easily a 10 for me.

Jurassic Park Lost World 7/10
Jurassic World 7/10
Jurassic Park 3 4/10

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I still don't understand why so many people keep talking about the "running in high heels" part in Jurassic World. Who cares? Does Claire running in high heels speak to a global issue? No. It's a three-second shot that, before the web, nobody would even remember after the credits roll. It's one of the biggest nitpicks I've ever heard.
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But isn't Nick portrayed as heroic? Or at least a character whose actions the audience should be rooting for? While all the InGen employees are bad, despite most of them just doing their jobs? I haven't seen TLW in awhile so correct me if I'm wrong.
I don't know. I mean, yeah, in the first half it obviously leans "Hammond's team good, InGen people bad", but once they team up halfway through, the lines are blurred (complete with heroic music while Ian, Nick and Sarah are saved by the InGen crew), and the focus is on these people working together to survive.

As the film progresses it becomes obvious that Ludlow is the only true villain; a ruthless businessman who has no respect for anyone or anything other than the money he can make by taking advantage of them.

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I still don't understand why so many people keep talking about the "running in high heels" part in Jurassic World. Who cares? Does Claire running in high heels speak to a global issue? No. It's a three-second shot that, before the web, nobody would even remember after the credits roll. It's one of the biggest nitpicks I've ever heard.
It is pretty daft, but I agree it isn't a big deal, especially not in a movie like Jurassic World. People who point at it and use it as an example of something absurd enough to almost ruin the climax must not be paying attention to everything else going on at that point in the movie.
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Old 09-27-2016, 03:05 AM   #17
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