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Old 02-01-2016, 02:37 PM   #61
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Given how they've proceeded with Blu-ray, I'm not holding my breath for 4K versions of any Disney titles, with Spielberg or without. It's pretty clear that the people in charge of their home entertainment division never really figured out how to exploit Blu-ray to its full potential, so I would assume that they will be one of the last to release UHD titles, if they ever do release any in the first place.
Disney was a leader in Blu-Ray media, and tried to push the tech with innovative features that, as it turned out, consumers shrugged at. From BD-Live, to Second Screen, to Picture-in-Picture commentaries...turns out their market didn't really care about all that. No one could blame audiences for being frustrated with BD-Live, but Second Screen and Cine-Explore were both very cool.
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Old 02-01-2016, 03:28 PM   #62
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Disney was a leader in Blu-Ray media, and tried to push the tech with innovative features that, as it turned out, consumers shrugged at. From BD-Live, to Second Screen, to Picture-in-Picture commentaries...turns out their market didn't really care about all that. No one could blame audiences for being frustrated with BD-Live, but Second Screen and Cine-Explore were both very cool.
I think not. If you set aside their controversial animation remastering techniques, then yes, they had a few stellar classic animation releases in the beginning, and certainly, there were a handful of great live-action releases, too. But Disney also made a number of bad decisions which continue to this day. This began with reintroducing their ridiculous Disney Vault idea too early in the life of the Blu-ray format, and continued on with head scratching 3D releases, followed by the bizarre decision to not release films on Blu-ray 3D at all in the United States. Then, they introduced the DMC Exclusives line, which is the very definition of "too little, too late", stripping live-action Disney classics (which should have been released from the beginning, in tandem with their classic animation) of legacy extras and even lossless audio.

And all that excludes the drying up of Touchstone and other adult-oriented catalog lines owned by Disney. And we've all seen what's happened with the recent Marvel television product, too.

It's fine to blame consumers, as I'm sure Disney does that in every shareholder meeting as well, but the fact is, we had an economic recession, and everyone felt that, Imagine, on the other hand, if the Platinum Editions were coming now, instead of 2009. But of course now, all Disney seems to really want to do is push their consumers to digital formats.
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Old 02-01-2016, 03:46 PM   #63
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Did Bridge of Spies ever have the $5 Pre-order Target Gift Card Promo?

Also, how does this movie compare to Lincoln? I watched that yesterday and hated it. Total snorefest.
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Old 02-01-2016, 04:54 PM   #64
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Did Bridge of Spies ever have the $5 Pre-order Target Gift Card Promo?

Also, how does this movie compare to Lincoln? I watched that yesterday and hated it. Total snorefest.

Nope. There never was a $5 gift card promo. I keep track of such promotions on another thread.

Target.com Preorder Promotions: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=264360

I enjoyed the film. Tom Hanks nails the role as usual, and Mark Rylance steals the show. Should be interesting to see Rylance in The BFG (as the title character).

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Old 02-01-2016, 05:02 PM   #65
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I think not. If you set aside their controversial animation remastering techniques, then yes, they had a few stellar classic animation releases in the beginning...

Disney's decision to back Blu-Ray and promote it aggressively was a factor in ending the Format War. You're talking about the Disney Movie Club and live-action titles and Disney's moratorium strategy which is almost as old as home video itself. Disney was chasing a market with potential, a technology that gave consumers a reason to buy their home media products all over again. They were bullish on Blu. This is common knowledge.

Today, it's a different landscape. 4k is a much harder sell than HDTV. 4k media is in its infancy. It's too soon to speculate on what Disney or any other studio will do, let alone speculate about their motives.
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Got my copy today. $19.97 inc. First Class shipping. Looking forward to it.
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Got my copy today. $19.97 inc. First Class shipping. Looking forward to it.
From where?
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From where?
Bull Moose.
But I'll just say that this one time. Other members recently pointed out I was getting obnoxious with too many posts pertaining to this retailer.

Why anyone wants to spend more than they have to, is beyond me.
Far too many online retailers, with excellent service to give Amazon ALL the business.

Make that $14.97. Just sold the digital code for $5.00.

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Bull Moose.
But I'll just say that this one time. Other members recently pointed out I was getting obnoxious with too many posts pertaining to this retailer.

Why anyone wants to spend more than they have to, is beyond me.
Far too many online retailers, with excellent service to give Amazon ALL the business.
Thanks! Did it come with a slipcover? Does new stuff from them normally come with slips?
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Old 02-02-2016, 04:16 AM   #70
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Thanks! Did it come with a slipcover? Does new stuff from them normally come with slips?
Yes, and yes.
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I saw this in the threatre with not so high of a expectation and was totally riveted. Whether it was the marketing or the wrong timing but this film played in empty theatres and left rather quickly.

I am recommending this film to everyone I know.
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Old 02-02-2016, 04:57 AM   #72
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I saw this in the threatre with not so high of a expectation and was totally riveted. Whether it was the marketing or the wrong timing but this film played in empty theatres and left rather quickly.

I am recommending this film to everyone I know.
In my area (at least) the film is actually still playing at AMC locations, both tomorrow and Wednesday, with two showings. Thursday, they have one showing scheduled at this point, so this is probably the last week for the film, at least before the dollar theatres.

I think this film in one of the many examples of wider audiences getting out to support movies they want to see. Obviously, a film like Bridge of Spies is going to appeal a lot of different audiences, both because of the cast and crew, and because of the mid-20th century setting.

The problem is that in this day and age, no one focuses anymore on films that have legs, unless they are Hollywood summer blockbusters
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I saw this in the threatre with not so high of a expectation and was totally riveted. Whether it was the marketing or the wrong timing but this film played in empty theatres and left rather quickly.

I am recommending this film to everyone I know.
As am I, I saw it twice in theaters, loved it. However I don't think we need to worry about it not finding an audience:

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=coldwar2015.htm

Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $71,884,220
Foreign: $90,499,957
Worldwide: $162,384,177

Not as colossal a hit as Lincoln, which did $275 million worldwide, but still an enormous success. Nobody but Spielberg and Hanks could bring a story like this to such a wide audience. I'm so happy to see the film made money, it means other period films have a fighting chance, since period is generally considered the kiss of death by studios.
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it means other period films have a fighting chance, since period is generally considered the kiss of death by studios.
I didn't know that, I love period films. Being 57, I cover 7 decades, so there's quite a bit I identify with.
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Is there something I'm missing?

I made a post in Trading forums to buy this UV and my post got deleted. I haven't made a post in that thread for almost a week, so I wasn't breaking forum rules.

Did this not release today or what?
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best movie of the year IMO....snubbed by Oscars for so many awards it should be in the running for. Hanks was exceptional in role.
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I made a post in Trading forums to buy this UV and my post got deleted. I haven't made a post in that thread for almost a week, so I wasn't breaking forum rules.

Did this not release today or what?

Bridge of Spies is not a UV eligible title in North America. Since it's a Disney distributed release in North America but not a Disney/Pixar/Marvel/Lucasfilm title, it's DigitalCopyPlus only (VUDU or iTunes or other select providers) and will not port thru UV or DMA.

Fox is the International distributor, so the UK edition will have a UK UV code. Still, it likely won't be redeemable at any US UV retailer and Flixster does not carry any Disney distributed films.

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Rewatch Value?
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This disc is region free.

Disney have provided the film's original audio in DTS-HD MA 7.1, while also including French and Spanish dubs in Dolby Digital 5.1. The English: Dolby Digital 2.0 track is audio description. English subtitles are English SDH.

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2               0:04:35.608     0:05:17.442     18,106 kbps     30,637 kbps     00:07:39.834    27,890 kbps     00:07:34.495    26,052 kbps     00:07:33.661    94,394 bytes    483,155 bytes   00:04:40.321    
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4               0:14:38.002     0:03:07.395     18,074 kbps     31,884 kbps     00:16:32.032    29,081 kbps     00:17:20.581    27,134 kbps     00:17:16.910    94,248 bytes    382,613 bytes   00:17:13.824    

STREAM DIAGNOSTICS:

File            PID             Type            Codec           Language                Seconds                 Bitrate                 Bytes           Packets         
----            ---             ----            -----           --------                --------------          --------------          -------------   -----           
00306.M2TS      4113 (0x1011)   0x1B            AVC                                     1065.231                18,000                  2,396,764,629   13,040,826      
00306.M2TS      4352 (0x1100)   0x81            AC3             eng (English)           1065.231                320                     42,616,320      266,352         
00306.M2TS      4608 (0x1200)   0x90            PGS             eng (English)           1065.231                78                      10,411,186      58,912          
00306.M2TS      4609 (0x1201)   0x90            PGS             fra (French)            1065.231                77                      10,317,121      58,527          
00306.M2TS      4610 (0x1202)   0x90            PGS             spa (Spanish)           1065.231                78                      10,352,337      58,718
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