RIP Red Fox

[mva5580]

I have a "lifetime" license for the older version and while I understand the situation and them feeling like they need to charge for a license again, not giving any kind of discount whatsoever to people who bought one before is poor form.

I won't be buying a new one. I can live without it. If I could have gotten it for 50% off, I'd quite possibly have it already.

[TM2-Megatron]

I was a lifetime license owner since 2006 on all their original products, and then upgraded to AnyDVDHD in late '07.

Personally, I feel I got my money's worth in the nearly 10 years of free updates I got. Most other software which has offered "lifetime" licenses eventually sees development grind to a crawl once the flow of new customer money trickles out. But Slysoft continued to release updates, sometimes on a nearly weekly basis. Even if I'd only owned the software for half the number of years I actually did, I'd have more than gotten my money's worth IMO.

The 20% discount currently on, I feel, is sufficient savings for me and probably the majority of other long-time (3+ years) customers. For people who only bought the products in the last year or two, I can understand why you'd feel you're entitled to a little bit more of a discount, but I suppose RedFox didn't have an easy way to make that process automated, and so for each purchase it would have meant manually going through the old Slysoft customer records.

I'm grateful they're offering lifetime licenses again, although I hope that doesn't ultimately doom them in the long run, if money for future development eventually starts drying up when we get to the point where the majority of people who need AnyDVD own lifetime licenses. A program like AnyDVD is pretty development-intensive, with their constantly having to adapt to new protection schemes.

[RickWJ324]

Originally Posted by TM2-Megatron

I was a lifetime license owner since 2006 on all their original products, and then upgraded to AnyDVDHD in late '07.

Personally, I feel I got my money's worth in the nearly 10 years of free updates I got. Most other software which has offered "lifetime" licenses eventually sees development grind to a crawl once the flow of new customer money trickles out. But Slysoft continued to release updates, sometimes on a nearly weekly basis. Even if I'd only owned the software for half the number of years I actually did, I'd have more than gotten my money's worth IMO.

The 20% discount currently on, I feel, is sufficient savings for me and probably the majority of other long-time (3+ years) customers. For people who only bought the products in the last year or two, I can understand why you'd feel you're entitled to a little bit more of a discount, but I suppose RedFox didn't have an easy way to make that process automated, and so for each purchase it would have meant manually going through the old Slysoft customer records.

I'm grateful they're offering lifetime licenses again, although I hope that doesn't ultimately doom them in the long run, if money for future development eventually starts drying up when we get to the point where the majority of people who need AnyDVD own lifetime licenses. A program like AnyDVD is pretty development-intensive, with their constantly having to adapt to new protection schemes.

I agree with you 100%! Great posting.

Having to repurchase a license sucks, but I probably had mine for as long as you had yours and definitely got my money's worth from it. When I read the company was done I was really concerned, not for the fact of making "bootlegs" but more so for the hdcp-compliance issues and running htpc's in my home. I have thousands of legitimate blu-rays and for my set ups in the house this is an invaluable tool.
Yes, these may be former Slysoft employees but it is a new company and we could've been faced with their being NO company to continue this app.

I can definitely understand frustration if one had just purchased the license within a year or so and had this happen, but I believe they offer a 50% discount for those users. The 20% off for everyone else seems fair to me. If doesn't seem fair to others, then simply choose to NOT buy a license...simple as that. I've purchased one. Will I be pissed if the company falls again within a few months? Absolutely. Was it worth the gamble? Absolutely.

I've had Verizon wireless for many many years. I was "grandfathered" into the unlimited data plan which I always had but they did away with. They gave me the assurance that I would be able to keep this plan moving forward, but then what did they do? They said, ok for as long as you have this phone you can keep it, but once you upgrade the phone you will lose the unlimited data! To me, that's more of a BS move than what happened here with Slysoft/Redfox.

[RBBrittain]

Note to mods: You might wanna change the thread title slightly. As originally written it obviously referred to SlySoft's red fox logo, but with its successor called RedFox it now implies the new company is already going belly-up -- definitely NOT the case.

Otherwise I strongly agree with the last two posts, and my two most active forums over the years are this one and SlySoft/RedFox support. (I never hid the connection -- same username both places -- but I never advertised either out of respect for this forum; I do NOT condone actual piracy, as my now-sizeable BD collection proves.) I got my SlySoft licenses with my very first BD-ROM drive, which arrived the very day WB abandoned HD DVD. If I didn't know better, I might be screaming too; but from seeing first-hand the battles AnyDVD's developers fought over the last nine years I *do* know better. They got screwed by SlySoft's demise even worse than we did, but they had an out: In lieu of back pay they probably never would have seen, they gained the rights to the software and started RedFox to continue it. To protect their own goodwill, they let us ride along a few months while they fully revived the product; but now they need to feed their families. I wish they coulda done more for us long-time SlySoft customers, but still they deserve our extra money far more than the vast majority of developers out there.

[whatever_gong82]

Originally Posted by RBBrittain

Note to mods: You might wanna change the thread title slightly. As originally written it obviously referred to SlySoft's red fox logo, but with its successor called RedFox it now implies the new company is already going belly-up -- definitely NOT the case.

Otherwise I strongly agree with the last two posts, and my two most active forums over the years are this one and SlySoft/RedFox support. (I never hid the connection -- same username both places -- but I never advertised either out of respect for this forum; I do NOT condone actual piracy, as my now-sizeable BD collection proves.) I got my SlySoft licenses with my very first BD-ROM drive, which arrived the very day WB abandoned HD DVD. If I didn't know better, I might be screaming too; but from seeing first-hand the battles AnyDVD's developers fought over the last nine years I *do* know better. They got screwed by SlySoft's demise even worse than we did, but they had an out: In lieu of back pay they probably never would have seen, they gained the rights to the software and started RedFox to continue it. To protect their own goodwill, they let us ride along a few months while they fully revived the product; but now they need to feed their families. I wish they coulda done more for us long-time SlySoft customers, but still they deserve our extra money far more than the vast majority of developers out there.

I also agree with RBBrittain that piracy is very wrong. And, like RBBrittain, I also have accounts with both sites--same username in fact--and as seen in my profile--I buy legal Blu-rays and DVDs.

Hollywood should go after those that upload and download torrents, because even if this software wasn't around, the pirates would find a way to do what they do.

Whack a mole, and another pops up, is my analogy. Just like the music industry, technology has made it too easy to pirate nowadays.

[BerryTheMusicMan]

Bought the program in late August of last year and feel completely ripped off !

[LordCrumb]

I purchased 'another' lifetime licence today. As much as I hate having to, as I already had one for 'Slysoft'.. I have far too many region locked titles to not have a decent decryption software.

[emmet otter]

What would be the best current software to play blurays on a HTPC?

Also, would it be possible to apply .srt files during playback on foreign blurays (that dont have english subs) during playback?

[chip75]

Originally Posted by emmet otter

Also, would it be possible to apply .srt files during playback on foreign blurays (that dont have english subs) during playback?

Most of the free software players allow you to add subtitles with .srt files. Usually you have to go through a bit of trial and error to see which program suits you best.

[emmet otter]

Any preference of software you can share?

[LordCrumb]

Originally Posted by chip75

Most of the free software players allow you to add subtitles with .srt files. Usually you have to go through a bit of trial and error to see which program suits you best.

To playback Blu-Ray Disc + a Subtitle file? Can't say I've found any free software that does that.

You'd have to rip the Blu-Ray to a single file (.M2TS would be easiest), and then play that with VLC and then add your subtitle file..

Of course, it all depends on your subtitle source.. if it was from a DVD, it would eventually be out of sync.

I've tried a couple of 'free' Blu-Ray software, but nothing compares to the ease of PowerDVD.

[emmet otter]

LordCrumb, Ive tried ripping blurays with MakeMKV and then tried to play it back with VLC player and then tried to add an .SRT file but its a no go for me. How do you get it to work?

So far ive only been able to encode those srt files into the movie with VidCoder.

[newgen2005]

Originally Posted by LordCrumb

I purchased 'another' lifetime licence today. As much as I hate having to, as I already had one for 'Slysoft'.. I have far too many region locked titles to not have a decent decryption software.

Does Passkey do the same thing?

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[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by newgen2005

Does Passkey do the same thing?

It does.

[Pyoko]

Originally Posted by LordCrumb

To playback Blu-Ray Disc + a Subtitle file? Can't say I've found any free software that does that.

You'd have to rip the Blu-Ray to a single file (.M2TS would be easiest), and then play that with VLC and then add your subtitle file.

You don't. In MPC-HC you can play the movie directly from the disc (assuming it's decrypted) and then drag-and-drop the subtitle file to the player and you're done (if the subtitle timing matches.)

Other freeware players might be capable of something similar, I don't really know. I've never had any reason to look beyond MPC-HC as it's pretty much perfect for what I need.

[LordCrumb]

Originally Posted by emmet otter

LordCrumb, Ive tried ripping blurays with MakeMKV and then tried to play it back with VLC player and then tried to add an .SRT file but its a no go for me. How do you get it to work?

So far ive only been able to encode those srt files into the movie with VidCoder.

I can't really go into specifics as it could end up with a Suspension and a Thread Close, but you need AnyDVD to work with MakeMKV.

Originally Posted by Pyoko

You don't. In MPC-HC you can play the movie directly from the disc (assuming it's decrypted) and then drag-and-drop the subtitle file to the player and you're done (if the subtitle timing matches.)

Other freeware players might be capable of something similar, I don't really know. I've never had any reason to look beyond MPC-HC as it's pretty much perfect for what I need.

Even if you decrypt the disc, it would only work with BDs that use a single file wouldn't it? most Blus use multiple files and a playlist to put them all together into a single playback.. ?

[Pyoko]

Originally Posted by LordCrumb

Even if you decrypt the disc, it would only work with BDs that use a single file wouldn't it? most Blus use multiple files and a playlist to put them all together into a single playback.. ?

It works because the BD playback in MPC-HC uses those very playlists and not the .m2ts files directly.