List of UHDs that contain Dolby Vision

[trippledx3]

Are they gonna stop the 4k blurays then?

[Ant1010]

so we will have HDR 4k disc release and DV 4k disc? Two different UHD releases to choose from?

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Ant1010

so we will have HDR 4k disc release and DV 4k disc? Two different UHD releases to choose from?

It depends on which HDR camp a particular studio chooses to go with.

Disney is definitely a big proponent of DV, so I would assume that's why they're taking their sweet time with UHD Blu-ray support. The time tables for release seem to match up fairly closely with the availability of DV discs and player products (and metadata supported version 2 of DV displays). Disney tends to start releasing first quarter discs around late February.

Sony is having internal struggles because they HDR grade in DV and they created the mastering software for DV on UHD Blu-ray, but their TV's don't currently support it. Perhaps because in that schizo company the right hand (the studio division) doesn't know what the left hand (the consumer division) is doing.

One possible reason why the Playstation "Pro" console doesn't have a UHD Blu-ray drive.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by trippledx3

Are they gonna stop the 4k blurays then?

Originally Posted by Ant1010

so we will have HDR 4k disc release and DV 4k disc? Two different UHD releases to choose from?

Lol no.

Nothing changes. Dolby vision and regular hdr are on the same disc, its a dual layer. Whichever hdr your tv supports will automatically play. If you have Dolby Vision, it will automatically override regular hdr.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by ray0414

Lol no.

Nothing changes. Dolby vision and regular hdr are on the same disc, its a dual layer. Whichever hdr your tv supports will automatically play. If you have Dolby Vision, it will automatically override regular hdr.

But not all studios may jump on the Dolby Vision UHD Blu-ray bandwagon, so the answer is: it depends.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

But not all studios may jump on the Dolby Vision UHD Blu-ray bandwagon, so the answer is: it depends.

But that's not what he was saying, he was just underlining the point that there won't be seperate HDR discs for DV and HDR10 if/when we finally get DV UHD discs, as one is built on the other.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

But that's not what he was saying, he was just underlining the point that there won't be seperate HDR discs for DV and HDR10 if/when we finally get DV UHD discs, as one is built on the other.

In that sense, then yes.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

In that sense, then yes.

Hdr10 will always be the base layer, that's what the above posters didn't know. The arrival of Dolby Vision changes nothing to current hdr10 tv owners.

[bruceames]

I believe that Dolby Vision is the odds-on favorite to win the "dynamic HDR on disc" format war, since Disney's support is huge and that Dolby Vision adds value just by virtue of its name. Plus I think that Warner and Sony movie division support it and what other studios?

The above would seem to have more clout than Fox, Samsung and Sony TV division.

[bferr1972]

Originally Posted by bruceames

I believe that Dolby Vision is the odds-on favorite to win the "dynamic HDR on disc" format war, since Disney's support is huge and that Dolby Vision adds value just by virtue of its name. Plus I think that Warner and Sony movie division supports it and who else?

Warner, Uni and Sony have released streaming DV movies, and Lionsgate has committed to DV as well. Hopefully these studios will release DV on disc when that time comes.

Last night, I A/B'ed my Creed HDR10 disc with DV streaming on Vudu, and I think DV easily won that contest despite having lower bitrates. Makes me think this whole UHD disc format launch might be a tad premature.

[bruceames]

Originally Posted by bferr1972

Last night, I A/B'ed my Creed HDR10 disc with DV streaming on Vudu, and I think DV easily won that contest despite having lower bitrates. Makes me think this whole UHD disc format launch might be a tad premature.

Well DV will do a lot better on TVs with lower than 1000 nits peak as the HDR10 version will clip highlights and probably not as well tone-mapped either.

Hopefully by next year we'll get more widespread support on DV and that includes Sony and Samsung (but I highly doubt it).

[BozQ]

Dolby Vision works kind of like Dolby Atmos. You have the base Dolby TrueHD 7.1 track. But if you have compatible hardware, you will get Dolby Atmos.

Dolby Vision will be quite similar. HDR10 is the base. And if you have it, Dolby Vision will kick in.

Perhaps Disney is preparing a "Dolby Cinema" Ultra HD Blu-rays. One packaged with Dolby Vision and Dolby Atmos in one disc for the Ultimate home theater experience.

Side question, UHD BD only supports TL-100GB discs, yes? QL BDXL 128GB is not part of the approved spec?

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by ray0414

Lol no.

Nothing changes. Dolby vision and regular hdr are on the same disc, its a dual layer. Whichever hdr your tv supports will automatically play. If you have Dolby Vision, it will automatically override regular hdr.

This appears to be the case with "Oblivion" two separate masters but with the DV being the digital download edition

[Opips3]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

This appears to be the case with "Oblivion" two separate masters but with the DV being the digital download edition

Yeah...studio lazy. It'll scanned 4K to UHD 4K with DV. You know it's dirty money.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

This appears to be the case with "Oblivion" two separate masters but with the DV being the digital download edition

Im not sure what your point is.


Nothing changes with disc. I couldn't care less about vudu. We're talking about discs for the posters confused about physical content.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by BozQ

Side question, UHD BD only supports TL-100GB discs, yes? QL BDXL 128GB is not part of the approved spec?

128 GB BDXL was a burned platter format, not stamped. Therefore it was never approved by the BDA for pre-packaged media.

UHD Blu-ray can be a 50, 66, or 100 GB stamped disc.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by ray0414

Im not sure what your point is.


Nothing changes with disc. I couldn't care less about vudu. We're talking about discs for the posters confused about physical content.

my point is, why is Universal allowing purchasers of the disc to view a 'Dolby' color graded version that is a separate master and quite possibly a superior pass through than Universal's HDR version? That's dumb and embarrassing on Universal's part. The disc version should be the superior edition.

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

my point is, why is Universal allowing purchasers of the disc to view a 'Dolby' color graded version that is a separate master and quite possibly a superior pass through than Universal's HDR version? That's dumb and embarrassing on Universal's part. The disc version should be the superior edition.

This is Comcast we're talking about. Screwing up catalog releases tends to be their MO unless it's a Spielberg directed film.

[bferr1972]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

my point is, why is Universal allowing purchasers of the disc to view a 'Dolby' color graded version that is a separate master and quite possibly a superior pass through than Universal's HDR version? That's dumb and embarrassing on Universal's part. The disc version should be the superior edition.

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

This is Comcast we're talking about. Screwing up catalog releases tends to be their MO unless it's a Spielberg directed film.

Not just Universal, but Warner, too-- the Creed disc I mentioned earlier, plus I've read elsewhere that the DV version of Mad Max: Fury Road is superior to the HDR10 disc. (I only have the DV of that film and was not able to A/B against the disc the same way I compared Creed.)

[BozQ]

Originally Posted by bferr1972

Not just Universal, but Warner, too-- the Creed disc I mentioned earlier, plus I've read elsewhere that the DV version of Mad Max: Fury Road is superior to the HDR10 disc. (I only have the DV of that film and was not able to A/B against the disc the same way I compared Creed.)

Dolby Vision from Hulu?