Blu-ray 3D - Units Released / Sales Discussion Thread

[Vindor]

BleedOrange11,

Are these english friendly releases:
Flight Crew
Mafia: Survival Game
Mune: Guardian of the Moon

I can't find flight crew at all and I only found Mafia: Survival Game in Russian with no English subtitles and Mune: Guardian of the Moon in French with no English subtitles.

Thanks
Vindor

[BleedOrange11]

Sorry, I don't own them and don't have more info than what this site or Amazon has. I did download some screenshots of all three and can tell you that you're not missing a great deal if you never see them in 3D. Mune and Mafia are very poor conversions and Flight Crew is very flat native 3D.

[3Dfan]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

Imagine if Best Buy stores threw all of the music CDs into a big bin mixed with the DVDs and blu rays and blu ray 3Ds and UHDs and then said, "start looking, the movie you want is in there somewhere". .

Wal-Mart does that.

[reewinder]

Originally Posted by BleedOrange11

Sorry, I don't own them and don't have more info than what this site or Amazon has. I did download some screenshots of all three and can tell you that you're not missing a great deal if you never see them in 3D. Mune and Mafia are very poor conversions and Flight Crew is very flat native 3D.

This is one of the only references I could find in the 3D forums about Mune: Guardian of the Moon. I had never heard of it but came across an advertisement for one of those Fathom Events where they bring a movie back to the theaters for one or two days only. They showed a trailer for the movie and it looked like it was intended to be in 3D but I don't think they will be showing it in 3D. Why bring it back and then not even show it in 3D?
https://www.fathomevents.com/events/...tm_term=fathom

[BleedOrange11]

I've only looked at some screenshots online, but Mune's 3D looks pretty bad. It's a very flat conversion. It's not something I'd care to watch in 3D. Audiences would be upset paying extra for that, and rightfully so. It's not a Hollywood-quality conversion.

[BleedOrange11]

Halluciner reviewed it with one of their lowest scores ever.

http://parodiesaffichesfilms.blogspo...3d_33.html?m=1

[reewinder]

I figured if they were showing it in 3D it might be worth catching in the theaters but no interest to see it in 2D.

[clckworang]

It looks like I have 23 from that original list. I didn't think I'd have that many!

[reewinder]

Originally Posted by clckworang

It looks like I have 23 from that original list. I didn't think I'd have that many!

I didn't even really look at it......but just counted and I'm at 31 so far on that list.

[cinerama]

I have about 20 of them.

[the13thman]

I have 67 of the 73 listed on the first page, just missing a couple of documentaries and non-English-friendly releases...

[Frank@Chicago]

33/55

[davidbe]

Originally Posted by BleedOrange11

Also:
Cold War II

Has anyone seen Cold War II in 3D who can report on the 3D quality?

[BLMN]

This year of 2017 I've imported more 3D titles than the ones made in the US. I doesn't surprise me anymore.

[wildbill722]

Taken from Den of the Geek article, November of 2017:

"Figures for 3D Blu-ray sales aren’t often made available, but they do – when they surface – paint a picture of a very niche format. At the peak of the format, average sales for a Blu-ray 3D version were around the 15% mark. Few films this year have got anywhere near that (Passengers is an exception). Just 3% of sales of Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 2 on its disc release in the US came from 3D Blu-rays, for instance. Anecdotally, the shelf space given to 3D Blu-ray in the branch of HMV mentioned at the top of the article has shrunk. As the hardware supply contracts, it’s not hard to see the discs going the same way.

They’re not the easiest discs to master, either. On a technical level, a 3D Blu-ray requires two pictures to be provided on the disc: one for the left eye, one for the right. It uses a little extra compression than a 2D picture would to achieve this, but still provides a rich picture to both eyes. Inevitably, it does use extra disc real estate, though, and there’s an added expense to the work that needs doing."

Further, Numbers website for all bluray sales show roughly for most big time 3d releases about 500,000 copies sold over first couple of months. I would add Guardians was a very heavily awaited 3d release and therefore on average I would estimate 1.5% is a better number for most releases, giving us 7500 copies of 3d blurays for most movies.

That is not much higher than the 3,000 copies of many of the 1950's limited release 3d's by 3-D Film Archives, which are in very high demand(Mad Magician and Man in the Dark come to mind).

That is a very small number of copies if the numbers are right.

And of course these numbers could be smaller if there was no US release at all of a 3d bluray. I would hate to venture a number for those releases, but maybe closer to 5000 copies.

Anyone seen any better numbers?

[reewinder]

Bad example they used considering the only way to get the GOTG2 in 3D in North America was in the Best Buy exclusive limited steelbook.

[wildbill722]

Originally Posted by reewinder

Bad example they used considering the only way to get the GOTG2 in 3D in North America was in the Best Buy exclusive limited steelbook.

Any thoughts on a better number? I am just guestimating.

[revgen]

Let's put it this way. Here's the first week of sales for Ghost in the Shell (2017).

Originally Posted by EVERRET

Amazon Best Sellers Rank: Blu-ray
#1 in Movies & TV > Blu-ray > Drama
#4 in Movies & TV > Blu-ray > Action & Adventure

Amazon Best Sellers Rank: 3D Blu-ray
#6 in Movies & TV > Blu-ray > Drama
#25 in Movies & TV > Blu-ray > Action & Adventure

Amazon Best Sellers Rank: 4K UHD Blu-ray
#13 in Movies & TV > Blu-ray > Drama
#46 in Movies & TV > Blu-ray > Action & Adventure

3D sales are still doing fine , but the fact that studios can convert every single movie to 4K even if it has a 2K master helps make 4K more common and convenient .

Yes, 3D is a niche category, but so is 4k despite all the hype surrounding it.

So why do publications like Den of Geek bash 3-D sales, when 4K is also a niche market? Because the studios, electronics manufacturers, and publications they sponsor are pushing the format.

[wildbill722]

Hey Revgen. Any idea what those places for Amazon correlate to as far as actual numbers?

And yes 4k is very nice, but I'm just not feeling it. I watched The Arrival in 2d 4k and it is a very sharp picture but I can only imagine how the picture would be in good old 1080 3d. I have people over all the time and I first show them a 4k picture and then go to the 3d and they are in awe. They say, "yeah the 4d is very pretty, but that 3d picture is unreal!" The only problem with 3d is once you try it, you are spoiled and imagine what the same movie in 4k would look like in 3d, and how much better it would have been.

I am just afraid if my numbers are right though, that this was the justification, like a self-fulfilling prophecy, for dropping 3d, after they murdered it with a thousand paper-cuts.

[bavanut]

Originally Posted by wildbill722

That is not much higher than the 3,000 copies of many of the 1950's limited release 3d's by 3-D Film Archives, which are in very high demand(Mad Magician and Man in the Dark come to mind).

That is a very small number of copies if the numbers are right.

Not finding fault, but offering a friendly correction:

The two titles you mention are not 3-D Film Archive titles. They are from Twilight Time. The Twilight Time discs are indeed generally limited to a run of 3,000 copies. The 3-D Film Archive releases have not been limited.

I know that the Archive's releases have been successful, at least one of them astonishingly so. But even if one posits that these are in some sense "rare," I counter that the very finest things in life generally are.