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Old 06-06-2017, 06:42 PM   #61
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Exactly. Render times for CG are very long. It would be very expensive and double the production time if they had to create and render a 4K animated film. (as computing power gets faster, that should change eventually)

Furthermore, for the same reason as animation, VFX for movies are also rendered at 2K. Even movies that were filmed in 4K will include 2K-upscaled VFX. (i.e. The Martian 4K) I think one of the few recent films to have 4K footage AND 4K VFX was the Tom Hank's film "Sully". The VFX was mainly for the airplane crash scene, while the rest of the film had minimal VFX. A movie like Avengers, which has VFX is almost every shot, would have to use 2K VFX in order to have the VFX rendered in time for the film's release.

Technically, if the VFX kept all thier project files in order, they could re-render all the VFX out at 4K for a future release, but the production cost of that may not be worth it. (for the slight sharpness that native 4K VFX would give to upscaled 2K VFX)
I think it's better to keep the VFX at 2K anyways. The CGI in Sully looked a bit dodgy, and the 4K resolution probably just exposed the little flaws you won't detect in 2K.
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Old 06-06-2017, 06:46 PM   #62
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I think it's better to keep the VFX at 2K anyways. The CGI in Sully looked a bit dodgy, and the 4K resolution probably just exposed the little flaws you won't detect in 2K.
It did look strangely hyper-real at times, yeah. Adding more and more resolution is one thing, but making it look tangible and organic is quite another and doesn't just depend on sheer resolution but also the taste and talent of the artists involved.

For me it's more about what the shot demands: if it's a bright, slow-moving beauty shot then fine, max it out, but for fast-moving VFX (which usually comes with the kind of wobbly, shaky camera moves that drastically cuts down your temporal resolution anyway) you can afford to dirty it down a bit.
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How'd you get yours so early?! Jealous!

My copies, 4K and 3D, are in transit to me, but it's probably going to be a few more days.
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Nice let us know the pq please ��
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Old 06-08-2017, 07:57 AM   #66
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Did they go with a "matte" slipcover like they did with Fantastic Beasts?
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Old 06-08-2017, 08:03 AM   #67
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Yeah. That's where I learned about VUDU UHD with Dolby Vision.
Really? I thought VUDU has had like giant Logos with DOLBY VISION on their UHD releases.
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Old 06-08-2017, 03:20 PM   #68
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Really? I thought VUDU has had like giant Logos with DOLBY VISION on their UHD releases.
In my defense, I don't have access to Vudu in Singapore.
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Old 06-09-2017, 03:22 AM   #69
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In my defense, I don't have access to Vudu in Singapore.
Ahh. Yeah i remember when the logos starting popping up for UHD Vudu and I clicked on a movie and they had big logos for DOLBY VISION and DOLBY ATMOS on it.
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Does this come with DVD as well? I know sometimes the 4K editions includes an unlisted DVD
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I dont think so. Fantastic Beasts didnt come with one if I remember correctly.
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Wait. What 4k releases have had DVD's?
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Does this come with DVD as well? I know sometimes the 4K editions includes an unlisted DVD
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Wait. What 4k releases have had DVD's?
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Wait. What 4k releases have had DVD's?
Some do. Weird though because it is not even listed on the package at all
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That is so sexy.

Okay, I probably already know this, but is it only HDR10, and no Dolby Vision?
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Still think this is a huge missed opportunity for Dolby Vision.
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Old 06-09-2017, 07:33 PM   #78
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That is so sexy.

Okay, I probably already know this, but is it only HDR10, and no Dolby Vision?
HDR10. The first Dolby Vision discs will be Despicable Me 1&2 .
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Still think this is a huge missed opportunity for Dolby Vision.
Not bit perfect, but if you have a DV TV and Vudu, you access the UHD with DV enabled through the app since it includes the digital code.
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Still think this is a huge missed opportunity for Dolby Vision.
Sigh. Yes. So true.
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