Any true Horror fan here?

[Steedeel]

Yes, pretty much all horror sub genres. I was fascinated with the Zombie genre when I was young. Creeping Flesh, Flesh eaters, DOTD, Day Of The Dead etc..
Halloween, The Shining, American Werewolf in London, The Exorcist, Silence Of The Lambs, Carrie are all standouts for me.
More recent faves include Scream, Pans Labyrinth, It Follows, Babadook, The Conjuring, Hostel, The Witch, Insidious and Excision. (In no particular order lol)

[P-Rock]

They should make 'jump scare' a new horror genre.

[James_Younger_Gang]

What about Carnival of Souls? That is scary especially at night.

[UncleBingo315]

Originally Posted by shinobipopcorn

Slasher films are alright. I like them because they're fun and have some interesting deaths, but really the only part about them I dislike are the gratuitous boobies. At least I know who's gonna die, then.

What do you have against boobies?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by UncleBingo315

What do you have against boobies?

That's what I was thinking. Love them personally.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by James_Younger_Gang

What about Carnival of Souls? That is scary especially at night.

Very true, good film. Just not in my top list.

[yabba dabba doo!]

Originally Posted by Batmon77

I find The Texas Chainsaw Massacre to be slasher, creepy, disturbing, and just as Horrifiying as anything in the genre.

The either/or thing is questionable.

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre is my least favourite slasher franchise purely because it's never taken the story anywhere! The first sequel was totally different to the first and each subsequent entry has either been a remake or a prequel to the original story. At least other slasher series (despite sometimes being mocked for doing so) managed to break the mould of their predecessors by trying something different like F13th Part VI/VII/Jason X, Halloween 4/5, New Nightmare etc.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by P-Rock

They should make 'jump scare' a new horror genre.

Agreed, although I do think the Conjuring had a couple of excellent jump scares. They really got it right with that film.

[ChainsawJedi]

Originally Posted by yabba dabba doo!

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre is my least favourite slasher franchise purely because it's never taken the story anywhere! The first sequel was totally different to the first and each subsequent entry has either been a remake or a prequel to the original story. At least other slasher series (despite sometimes being mocked for doing so) managed to break the mould of their predecessors by trying something different like F13th Part VI/VII/Jason X, Halloween 4/5, New Nightmare etc.

I think once a film starts down the sequel path it's over as far as originality is concerned. The studios demand a sequel because the original did so well but really all they're saying is "That was great, let's have more of the same."

The story of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre series is realy interesting because with the first sequel Hooper really tried for something different but the film was taken from him by Canon and they cut it themselves before it was even finished. Personally, I love what he did with the sequel but I appreciate it's not to everyone's taste. The second sequel didn't know whether it wanted to be a remake or a direct sequel to the original and it failed on both counts. Again, studio interference was so bad (with scenes being cut before they were even filmed) that the director didn't even want his name on the credits. Bob Shaye, the head of New Line, wanted them to make a "date movie" - well, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre is not a date movie.

The less said about Kim Henkel's catch-penny sequel, the better.

[James_Younger_Gang]

Originally Posted by ChainsawJedi

I think once a film starts down the sequel path it's over as far as originality is concerned. The studios demand a sequel because the original did so well but really all they're saying is "That was great, let's have more of the same."

The story of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre series is realy interesting because with the first sequel Hooper really tried for something different but the film was taken from him by Canon and they cut it themselves before it was even finished. Personally, I love what he did with the sequel but I appreciate it's not to everyone's taste. The second sequel didn't know whether it wanted to be a remake or a direct sequel to the original and it failed on both counts. Again, studio interference was so bad (with scenes being cut before they were even filmed) that the director didn't even want his name on the credits. Bob Shaye, the head of New Line, wanted them to make a "date movie" - well, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre is not a date movie.

The less said about Kim Henkel's catch-penny sequel, the better.

The original texas chainsaw massacre is a masterpiece. It had horror and shock without the need for gallons of blood. The sequel took the right direction because it didnt try to replicate the original, it went in its own direction as a dark comedy. Part iii was so so bit still a lot of fun. Part iv was a piece of crap. The remake is one of the few remakes that are sctually good, respectful to the original and original at the same time. The beginning was a cliche prequel but it worked for me. Texas chainsaw was heavily disliked and I agree. We can only guess what the future holds for this franchise.

[UniSol GR77]

Originally Posted by ChainsawJedi

The story of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre series is realy interesting because with the first sequel Hooper really tried for something different but the film was taken from him by Canon and they cut it themselves before it was even finished. Personally, I love what he did with the sequel but I appreciate it's not to everyone's taste.

Exactly. The TCM sequel was the "Evil Dead II" of the franchise, it was very different from the original --- and superb!

I don't like the remake series at all. It's not scary --- it's just empty, boring and filled with clichés.

Originally Posted by Todd Tomorrow

While there are some of those I enjoy, I prefer horror films which are disturbing on an intellectual/emotional level to those which are merely a a series of kills. I prefer horror films which are more inventive as pieces of filmmaking than an assembly line slasher sequel. Been a horror fan all my life (I'm old enough to have gotten into horror films before there were slasher franchises) and I don't see why preferring The Shining or Rosemary's Baby (or more recently It Follows, Under the Shadow and The Witch) to Friday the 13th Part 25 makes me less of a "true" horror fan.

Jesus, you summed it up so well. Congrats.

[Todd Tomorrow]

Originally Posted by P-Rock

They should make 'jump scare' a new horror genre.

Well, it's a device most horror films use, so I'm not sure that qualifies as a separate genre.

Invented by producer Val Lewton's 1942 Cat People, when a bus startles a character who believes herself to be stalked. After that the jump scare was long referred to as a "Lewton bus". In any case, it's not exactly new.

[postmodel]

Like many here I started watching horror films when I was a kid. I was the youngest and my parents would take us to blockbuster to get one movie each. I would always go in the horror section and I was never told no with my choices. I eventually was able to get 2 videos at a time when prices went down and you could keep them for 5 days. I always rented a film from the nightmare on elm street series until my parents finally bought me them to keep. The first one was an Easter present when I was like 8 or 9! That series mixed with random B-movies started my love.

To this day I'll still be scared by the older horror films even though I've seen them a million times. I just let the feeling that I used to have take over. I love it. I also love finding movies from the 70s and 80s I've never seen before.

About the "horror movies don't scare me anymore" thing, I was lucky enough to see the original Carnival of Souls for the first time a few years ago. I had the lights off thinking it could somehow enhance the experience given the age of the film. After all, how could this black and white film from the 60s be scary? Well, it was. I fell in love. It creeped me out enough that I just had to pause it and peak in on my kid just "to be sure" all was well. Wasn't expecting it to effect me like that. Like a junkie, I'm always chasing that feeling.

[Batmon77]

Originally Posted by yabba dabba doo!

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre is my least favourite slasher franchise purely because it's never taken the story anywhere! The first sequel was totally different to the first and each subsequent entry has either been a remake or a prequel to the original story. At least other slasher series (despite sometimes being mocked for doing so) managed to break the mould of their predecessors by trying something different like F13th Part VI/VII/Jason X, Halloween 4/5, New Nightmare etc.

Ive never seen a TCM sequel. Only the original.

I dont judge The Exorcist film by the sequels.

[yabba dabba doo!]

Originally Posted by ChainsawJedi

I think once a film starts down the sequel path it's over as far as originality is concerned. The studios demand a sequel because the original did so well but really all they're saying is "That was great, let's have more of the same."

The story of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre series is realy interesting because with the first sequel Hooper really tried for something different but the film was taken from him by Canon and they cut it themselves before it was even finished. Personally, I love what he did with the sequel but I appreciate it's not to everyone's taste. The second sequel didn't know whether it wanted to be a remake or a direct sequel to the original and it failed on both counts. Again, studio interference was so bad (with scenes being cut before they were even filmed) that the director didn't even want his name on the credits. Bob Shaye, the head of New Line, wanted them to make a "date movie" - well, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre is not a date movie.

The less said about Kim Henkel's catch-penny sequel, the better.

I understand that sequels are cash grabs, but they could at least be a bit creative. That's why I find the Friday the 13th sequels fun because everything after Part 5 is so wacky, each instalment tried something different (whether some of them are good or not is another matter). I'm sure 12 straight movies of campers getting slashed would have gotten boring fast and that's the problem with the TCM sequels, every movie, you have a group of teens driving around Texas in a minivan before encountering Leatherface (although I agree that the remake is cool).

[P-Rock]

Originally Posted by Todd Tomorrow

Well, it's a device most horror films use, so I'm not sure that qualifies as a separate genre.

Most commercial horror movies like Insidious and The Conjuring are built on jump scares, yes. Jump scares are only effective when used sparse.

Look at all the jump scares in The Conjuring 2 for example:


2:28 – A loud gunshot during a quiet scene may startle some viewers.

3:43 – The woman on the bed turns her head suddenly and says “what did you do”.

6:02 – The little boy laughs and runs past Lorraine.

6:15 – The Lutz family suddenly appear in front of Lorraine.

6:52 – Lorraine looks back at the mirror and the nun is standing right behind her reflection, she looks away and looks back once more and the nun is now right in front of her.

21:38 – Janet starts talking in a much deeper voice.

22:51 – Janet starts talking again and is revealed to be standing directly in front of Margaret’s bed.

26:20 – A man’s voice roars loudly.

29:44 – A telephone rings during a quiet scene.

31:47 – Janet sees a reflection on the television of a man sitting on a chair.

32:01 – The man now appears behind Janet and he screams “my house”.

34:49 – Janet wakes from her sleep as she crashes to the floor.

38:49 – A man yells and the bed sheets are pulled off Janet’s bed.

39:52 – The bedside cabinet suddenly slides across the room.

45:31 – A tape player suddenly turns on during a tense scene.

47:41 – After putting her hands around the painting the nun suddenly runs at Lorraine.

1:20:22 – Bill shouts Janet’s name and attacks her.

1:20:52 – Through an opening in the door Peggy sees Janet be pulled away and replaced with Bill.

1:33:02 – Peggy looks down and sees Bill’s face in the water. He reaches out and grabs Peggy’s arm.

1:36:09 – Janet reappears in the kitchen holding a knife.

1:47:38 – The nun puts her hand on Bill’s shoulder.

1:59:22 – Ed looks up from the turntable and sees the crooked man looking at him.


22 jump scares, it's ridiculous.

[RobMaza16]

I LOVE horror movies. I've watched them since I was a kid. I started out with the chucky and nightmare movies which makes slashers my favorite sub genre. I enjoy all of horror as well and am currently going back in the decades and watching older horror!

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by P-Rock

Most commercial horror movies like Insidious and The Conjuring are built on jump scares, yes. Jump scares are only effective when used sparse.

Look at all the jump scares in The Conjuring 2 for example:


2:28 – A loud gunshot during a quiet scene may startle some viewers.

3:43 – The woman on the bed turns her head suddenly and says “what did you do”.

6:02 – The little boy laughs and runs past Lorraine.

6:15 – The Lutz family suddenly appear in front of Lorraine.

6:52 – Lorraine looks back at the mirror and the nun is standing right behind her reflection, she looks away and looks back once more and the nun is now right in front of her.

21:38 – Janet starts talking in a much deeper voice.

22:51 – Janet starts talking again and is revealed to be standing directly in front of Margaret’s bed.

26:20 – A man’s voice roars loudly.

29:44 – A telephone rings during a quiet scene.

31:47 – Janet sees a reflection on the television of a man sitting on a chair.

32:01 – The man now appears behind Janet and he screams “my house”.

34:49 – Janet wakes from her sleep as she crashes to the floor.

38:49 – A man yells and the bed sheets are pulled off Janet’s bed.

39:52 – The bedside cabinet suddenly slides across the room.

45:31 – A tape player suddenly turns on during a tense scene.

47:41 – After putting her hands around the painting the nun suddenly runs at Lorraine.

1:20:22 – Bill shouts Janet’s name and attacks her.

1:20:52 – Through an opening in the door Peggy sees Janet be pulled away and replaced with Bill.

1:33:02 – Peggy looks down and sees Bill’s face in the water. He reaches out and grabs Peggy’s arm.

1:36:09 – Janet reappears in the kitchen holding a knife.

1:47:38 – The nun puts her hand on Bill’s shoulder.

1:59:22 – Ed looks up from the turntable and sees the crooked man looking at him.


22 jump scares, it's ridiculous.

it worked. The film was a huge hit.

[ThatOneGuy]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

it worked. The film was a huge hit.

50 Shades of Grey was also a huge hit because sex sells, doesn't mean it made it a good film. Although The Conjuring is also regarded as a good film.

It is no lie when people say jump scares are way overused to scare people.

[tonylopez]

I do consider myself a horror fan. I grew up during what I would call the horror film hay day of the 80's in which I became a teen and had a wonderful video store that had an epic collection and I discovered many awesome treasures throughout the years. I started with classic black and white films of Universal to then Night of the Living Dead which made a big impression on me. I still remember the moment I realized that there was a sequel to it and freaked out! My parents let me watch pretty much whatever I wanted so granted I did watch things that were disturbing to watch but as a kid I was like WOW they make stuff like this? My mom was a big film fan and took me to the theater to watch classics like An American Werewolf in London and Return of the Living Dead where my dad was more artistic and exposed me to foreign films and less mainstream films. Now granted I was a Star Wars and Indiana Jones fan when growing up but then I discovered Halloween and Friday the 13th and Psycho and started watching anything I could that had a great looking VHS cover. For every oddity of gold like Terror Vision there was bland stuff like I Dismember Mama. Throughout the years my taste in film evolved and as you can tell with my collection I have a variety of likes but thanks to companies like Scream Factory I did rediscover some old guilty pleasures and I wish I could buy them all. Today being a 41 year old I find a I love slowly exposing my 13 year old daughters to some of the greats of yesteryear while they gravitate toward The Purge and Paranormal Activity films. I do still today enjoy watching horror films but I am much more selective in my tastes today. I do watch older ones that I remember liking and then find it crap but I still do consider myself a big horror fan!

Some of my favorite horror films in no particular order: THE THING (82), THE TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE (74), SUSPIRIA, HALLOWEEN (78), DAWN OF THE DEAD (BOTH VERSIONS), THE WITCH, 28 DAYS LATER, RETURN OF THE LIVING DEAD, THE CONJURING, FRIGHT NIGHT (85), AN AMERICAN WEREWOLF IN LONDON, ALIEN (YES IT'S A HORROR FILM), NIGHTMARE CITY, NOSFERATU (BOTH VERSIONS), CLASSIC VINCENT PRICE FILMS, CHEESY ZOMBIE FILMS, 80'S SLASHERS, THE EVIL DEAD FRANCHISE, ROB ZOMBIE FILMS (YEAH I REALIZE THERE FLAWS), CRONENBERG BODY HORROR, JAPANESE GHOST STORIES, CARPENTER FILMS, PSYCHO FILMS, TOBE HOOPER YOUNGER YEARS, BLACK AND WHITE UNIVERSAL CLASSIC MONSTERS, THE SHINING AND OTHER OLDER STEPHEN KING FILMS AND SO SO MUCH MORE.