Dead of Night (1945) - Page 4 - Blu-ray Forum

jacksparrow900 · 07-09-2019, 12:37 PM

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oddbox83 · 07-09-2019, 12:48 PM

He loves it - but I can't be the only one to whom that comparison shows how much EE the Kino has?

BPW2016 · 07-09-2019, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by oddbox83

He loves it - but I can't be the only one to whom that comparison shows how much EE the Kino has?

Despite the reviewers obvious eagerness to shower the Kino release with praise (note the "two extensive extras" comment), nothing so far suggests that this was a new 4K remaster. They used the same SC transfer with only a contrast bump to differentiate the two.

WaverBoy · 07-09-2019, 05:28 PM

Let’s hope the audio is pitched correctly...

Bluebolt · 07-09-2019, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BPW2016

Despite the reviewers obvious eagerness to shower the Kino release with praise (note the "two extensive extras" comment), nothing so far suggests that this was a new 4K remaster. They used the same SC transfer with only a contrast bump to differentiate the two.

Different scratch marks and slightly different framing between the two, and a significant difference in clarity (apart from any contrast boost).

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Originally Posted by oddbox83

He loves it - but I can't be the only one to whom that comparison shows how much EE the Kino has?

Worrisome, but in-motion will tell.

BPW2016 · 07-09-2019, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Bluebolt

Different scratch marks and slightly different framing between the two, and a significant difference in clarity (apart from any contrast boost).

Not significant enough for a double-dip. And the "books on tape" commentary is not a selling point for me either.

PowellPressburger · 07-09-2019, 10:18 PM

The TIM LUCAS commentary IS the selling point

I don’t own any other release for the film, so the commentary is icing on the cake. Can’t wait. Have to wait a bit... the Criterion sales are killing me

Williamdcarl · 07-10-2019, 01:36 AM

Man, there are a LOT of scratches and dirt marks and places where the picture has interference. It is sharper than the DVD from Anchor Bay, but I don't know if it is better. The long scratch down the middle of the frame comes and goes so often in the first. Minutes, it may as well be a new ghost. Color me very disappointed, as this is One of my favorite horror films of all time.

snipemonkey · 07-10-2019, 05:11 PM

Got this for the Lucas commentary, if nothing else. I usually don't bother with commentaries but his are the exception. Pretty much anything by him is an automatic purchase for me.

The Peanut Monkey · 07-10-2019, 06:18 PM

Absolutely forgot I pre-ordered this, so it was a nice surprise when it turned up randomly yesterday! And Amazon even refunded me a mighty ten cents difference from the pre-order price :P

ravenus · 07-11-2019, 02:49 AM

The comparison of screenshots having subtitles on the Beaver review, the pinstripe pattern of the man's shirt clearly seen in the SC transfer is completely mangled on the Kino release, possibly on account of excessive sharpening.

The Peanut Monkey · 07-11-2019, 02:57 AM

...Which one? I don't see anything "completely mangled" at all. Sometimes I wonder if it's a curse or a blessing I miss so much.

ravenus · 07-11-2019, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by The Peanut Monkey

...Which one? I don't see anything "completely mangled" at all. Sometimes I wonder if it's a curse or a blessing I miss so much.

SC release shot
Kino release shot

On the first one you can clearly see the pinstripe pattern on the collar. Kino shot, it gets messed up. That's how it looks to me.

BobbyPeru · 07-11-2019, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by WaverBoy

Let’s hope the audio is pitched correctly...

The audio is high pitched and extremely harsh. The film is full of distracting scratches and the frame bounces around from time to time. Just another typical release from Kino.

b_squared · 07-11-2019, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ravenus

SC release shot
Kino release shot

On the first one you can clearly see the pinstripe pattern on the collar. Kino shot, it gets messed up. That's how it looks to me.

I would hardly call that completely mangled.

Baron Blood · 07-11-2019, 10:37 PM

Well the Kino has the better focus and contrast on my laptop.
Gotta really see it in motion on my setup to do a proper comparison.

For those unsure if this film qualifies as horror this quote from Wiki might help.

"...In the early 2010s, Time Out conducted a poll with several authors, directors, actors and critics who have worked within the horror genre to vote for their top horror films. Dead of Night placed at number 35 on their top 100 list. Director Martin Scorsese placed Dead of Night on his list of the 11 scariest horror films of all time..." ~ Wiki

The Peanut Monkey · 07-11-2019, 10:52 PM

It does look a little sharp... but I think only in contrast to the other image which seems much softer. To be honest I didn't reply because I'm simply not an expert and prefer the look of the Kino in that comparison, and didn't know if that was a Wrong Opinion

DenOfEarth · 07-12-2019, 08:38 AM

Very nice bluray

oddbox83 · 07-12-2019, 10:15 AM

Kino aren't going to stop the EE when it fools so many. It's not any sharper, it just looks it to the untrained eye. All I see is ringing in those caps. It's unpleasantly heavy handed "enhancement".

lemonski · 07-12-2019, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by oddbox83

Kino aren't going to stop the EE when it fools so many. It's not any sharper, it just looks it to the untrained eye. All I see is ringing in those caps. It's unpleasantly heavy handed "enhancement".

The untrained eye, give me a break. Let me guess, you’ve taken a correspondence course on video processing from the comfort of your sofa.

07-11-2019, 10:37 PM	#76
Baron Blood Senior Member Member since:Sep 2016	Well the Kino has the better focus and contrast on my laptop. Gotta really see it in motion on my setup to do a proper comparison. For those unsure if this film qualifies as horror this quote from Wiki might help. "...In the early 2010s, Time Out conducted a poll with several authors, directors, actors and critics who have worked within the horror genre to vote for their top horror films. Dead of Night placed at number 35 on their top 100 list. Director Martin Scorsese placed Dead of Night on his list of the 11 scariest horror films of all time..." ~ Wiki Last edited by Baron Blood; 07-12-2019 at 01:44 AM.

07-12-2019, 08:38 AM	#78
DenOfEarth Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:May 2011 Location:Boulder City, Nevada 4K collection:164 Blu-ray collection:1556 DVD collection:229 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:1	Very nice bluray Last edited by DenOfEarth; 07-12-2019 at 07:00 PM.

07-09-2019, 12:37 PM	#61
jacksparrow900 Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2012 4K collection:194 Blu-ray collection:1357 DVD collection:474 Trading Score:1	http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film4/blu-r...ht_blu-ray.htm

07-09-2019, 12:48 PM	#62
oddbox83 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Sep 2013 Location:UK	He loves it - but I can't be the only one to whom that comparison shows how much EE the Kino has?

07-09-2019, 05:28 PM	#64
WaverBoy Blu-ray Knight Member since:May 2013 Location:Seattle, WA Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:5	Let’s hope the audio is pitched correctly...

07-09-2019, 10:18 PM	#67
PowellPressburger Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:DIFFERENT PLACES! Minneapolis 4K collection:1015 Blu-ray collection:3688 DVD collection:359 Blu-ray reviews: 51 Trading Score:301	The TIM LUCAS commentary IS the selling point I don’t own any other release for the film, so the commentary is icing on the cake. Can’t wait. Have to wait a bit... the Criterion sales are killing me

07-10-2019, 01:36 AM	#68
Williamdcarl Active Member Member since:Apr 2018 Location:Rhode island 4K collection:252 Blu-ray collection:3638	Man, there are a LOT of scratches and dirt marks and places where the picture has interference. It is sharper than the DVD from Anchor Bay, but I don't know if it is better. The long scratch down the middle of the frame comes and goes so often in the first. Minutes, it may as well be a new ghost. Color me very disappointed, as this is One of my favorite horror films of all time.

07-10-2019, 05:11 PM	#69
snipemonkey Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:800 Blu-ray collection:3138 DVD collection:102 MA collection:556 Digital collection:272 iTunes collection:24 Prime collection:2 Blu-ray reviews:2	Got this for the Lucas commentary, if nothing else. I usually don't bother with commentaries but his are the exception. Pretty much anything by him is an automatic purchase for me.

07-10-2019, 06:18 PM	#70
The Peanut Monkey Senior Member Member since:Nov 2009 Location:No. 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:177	Absolutely forgot I pre-ordered this, so it was a nice surprise when it turned up randomly yesterday! And Amazon even refunded me a mighty ten cents difference from the pre-order price :P

07-11-2019, 02:49 AM	#71
ravenus Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Dec 2010 Location:India Home Theater Gallery:6 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:1205 DVD collection:144 Blu-ray reviews: 184 Trading Score:8	The comparison of screenshots having subtitles on the Beaver review, the pinstripe pattern of the man's shirt clearly seen in the SC transfer is completely mangled on the Kino release, possibly on account of excessive sharpening.

07-11-2019, 02:57 AM	#72
The Peanut Monkey Senior Member Member since:Nov 2009 Location:No. 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:177	...Which one? I don't see anything "completely mangled" at all. Sometimes I wonder if it's a curse or a blessing I miss so much.

07-11-2019, 10:52 PM	#77
The Peanut Monkey Senior Member Member since:Nov 2009 Location:No. 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:177	It does look a little sharp... but I think only in contrast to the other image which seems much softer. To be honest I didn't reply because I'm simply not an expert and prefer the look of the Kino in that comparison, and didn't know if that was a Wrong Opinion

07-12-2019, 10:15 AM	#79
oddbox83 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Sep 2013 Location:UK	Kino aren't going to stop the EE when it fools so many. It's not any sharper, it just looks it to the untrained eye. All I see is ringing in those caps. It's unpleasantly heavy handed "enhancement".

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