Akira 4K UHD (1988)

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by define

the dolby truehd? does it have the same voices of the original?

Yes, it uses the original audio stems.

[LexInHD]

Originally Posted by professorwho

Well, film preservation in Japan isn’t the best, and it’s possible that the OCN might not exist anymore. I doubt it, but it’s always a possibility.

AFAIK, the OCN is in "okay condition" and not "poor condition", but the lack of proper storage in the 80's and 90's has likely taken a toll on it, as it has all other Japanese film-based assets that pre-date the digital days. Also, the film restoration business in Japan is in it's (literal) infancy and they have neither the experience or tools to perform the advanced stuff that can be done in Murica and Europe, so the quickest and easiest thing for them to do is work with an IP.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by LexInHD

Also, the film restoration business in Japan is in it's (literal) infancy and they have neither the experience or tools to perform the advanced stuff that can be done in Murica and Europe, so the quickest and easiest thing for them to do is work with an IP.

It’s quicker and easier for them to add a completely redundant extra step?

[ProjectB]

Every time there is genuine time and money invested in the restoration of Cel animated films where they remove the dust, scratches and fingerprints on the original cels or not, there is bound to be people that aren’t happy.

[Steve Freeling]

Huh... I was really excited at first since Akira is one of my top five favorite movies, but the lights on Kaneda's bike look really blown-out and overexposed to me. And... is that banding? And DNR? Not only that, we still don't know if they'll correct the subtitles and it doesn't look like it will have the Streamline dub, either. I'm not seeing any reason to get rid of my 25th AE Blu-ray.

[KubrickKurasawa]

Originally Posted by Steve Freeling

Huh... I was really excited at first since Akira is one of my top five favorite movies, but the lights on Kaneda's bike look really blown-out and over exposed to me. And... is that banding? And DNR? Not only that, we still don't know if they'll correct the subtitles and it doesn't look like it will have the Streamline dub, either. I'm not seeing any reason to get rid of my 25th AE Blu-ray.

35mm ---> 4K = Better than most modern 2K films

Why Do Older Movies Look Better in 4K? - YouTube

[KubrickKurasawa]

LOL @ People saying this NEEDS atmos

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by KubrickKurasawa

LOL @ People saying this NEEDS atmos

Let them have their reductive fun.
I am bored of people trying to justify their purchases

[Ben_C]

Originally Posted by ProjectB

Every time there is genuine time and money invested in the restoration of Cel animated films where they remove the dust, scratches and fingerprints on the original cels or not, there is bound to be people that aren’t happy.

I guess it depends on how nuts they go with any restoration tools available. I’d sooner have all the dust, scratches and fingerprints over an overly smooth dnr-fest.
A bit of dust and a few fingerprints are part of the fabric of any old school cel animated movie.

[Pyoko]

Originally Posted by ProjectB

Every time there is genuine time and money invested in the restoration of Cel animated films where they remove the dust, scratches and fingerprints on the original cels or not, there is bound to be people that aren’t happy.

That's not really the issue, or rather it's the opposite of the issue. They don't have the time and money to selectively restore the titles in that manner so instead they opt to nuke the entire thing using orbital lasers, with terrible and disrespectful results. In which case a better, even cheaper and more respectable option would have been to do nothing at all.

Only Disney has the money for proper restorations but for some reason they'd rather spend it on misguidedly recreating everything digitally.

[ProjectB]

Originally Posted by Pyoko

That's not really the issue, or rather it's the opposite of the issue. They don't have the time and money to selectively restore the titles in that manner so instead they opt to nuke the entire thing using orbital lasers, with terrible and disrespectful results. In which case a better, even cheaper and more respectable option would have been to do nothing at all.

Only Disney has the money for proper restorations but for some reason they'd rather spend it on misguidedly recreating everything digitally.

What I meant to say was that people can be turned off how a transfer of a film made with cels no matter what you do with it. I agree not everything can afford a Disney restoration budget, but I’d rather have a company work hard to make the animation look close to the artwork rather than a lazy transfer job and call it HD/4K. At least Disney, for all the criticism it received, they take great effort to locate any surviving artwork to get an idea what the intent of the animators might have been. But others usually do lazy “Restoration”.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by LexInHD

Also, the film restoration business in Japan is in it's (literal) infancy and they have neither the experience or tools to perform the advanced stuff that can be done in Murica and Europe, so the quickest and easiest thing for them to do is work with an IP.

Bullshit. Utter bullshit. You know they got those 11K large format scanners at the likes of FotoKem, the gear that they use for 65mm transfer? They're made by a company named Imagica...which is JAPANESE. They even got a website and everything.

https://www.imagicalab.co.jp/e/topic...iving_footage/

The problem is NOT a lack of experience or poor tools but in the mindset of the people who own these assets and the culture that they operate in. Just as DNR seems to be more acceptable in, say, Germany e.g. Krekel Vision, plus the Evil Dead set which literally had the DNR'ed version as a selling point, it also seems to be something very prevalent with anime remasters these days. It's like they're transposing the same attitude towards all those SD upscales - wipe away the grain, sharpen up the edges - onto any other remasters, even stuff that's being transferred in "native 4K".

As with Nolan and his deluded attitude of transferring from IP, if anything it's going to create a WORSE picture in HDR because of how the chunkier duped grain reacts to such a transfer function, you need the grain to be as fine as possible to begin with. But hey, seeing as Bandai or whoever would probably smoosh away the grain regardless I don't suppose it really matters what source they're using.

[professorwho]

Japanese film restorations for anime are actually rather poor. The best restorations are
sunrise’s old titles, like Outlaw Star, Cowboy Bebop and Turn a Gundam, which were lovingly scanned and restored in LA by a first rate company. Sunrise and Bandai spent the extra money to restore them with a professional company rather than do it in their native country.

Now, people seem to think Japan is #1 at implementing technology, and that’s bullshit. I just went there like a week and a half ago, and they don’t have f**king soap in the bathrooms, not many places have automatic hand dryers, only now are credit cards becoming accepted in Tokyo, and most buildings have zero air conditioning. In addition, their cellular services suck. Really slow data. So, while Japan may be #1 at inventing these technologies, they are really slow and behind the game at implementing it publicly.

Plus, Q-Tec. The fact they’re one of the most used companies in regards to post production in Japan- That tells you that they’re behind.

[Geoff D]

As I said: it's about the mindset, particularly towards anime in general, not the tech.

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

As I said: it's about the mindset, particularly towards anime in general, not the tech.

Gotcha. Didn’t interpret it correctly the first time.

[Doctorossi]

Originally Posted by professorwho

only now are credit cards becoming accepted in Tokyo

That’s not for lack of technology infrastructure or uptake speed; it’s the product of centuries-old cultural attitudes about money and transactions.

[SpaceBlackKnight]

Yuck! Another day, another DNR shit fest from Bandai. Granted some of the Gundam material on BD looks good, but the 4k UHD of Chars Counterattack? KILL IT WITH FIRE!

I suspect the US distributor will be Funimation, being they have the Akira licence from Kodansha. It wouldn't much of a shock anyway since DNR'd masters from Japanese rights holders and lazy distributors like Funi go hand to hand with each other. I also predict them to just port over the JP UHD 1:1, so in a way it would be one of their first 4k releases provided they don't skimp out at the last minute.

[professorwho]

Originally Posted by SpaceBlackKnight

Yuck! Another day, another DNR shit fest from Bandai. Granted some of the Gundam material on BD looks good, but the 4k UHD of Chars Counterattack? KILL IT WITH FIRE!

I suspect the US distributor will be Funimation, being they have the Akira licence from Kodansha. It wouldn't much of a shock anyway since DNR'd masters from Japanese rights holders and lazy distributors like Funi go hand to hand with each other. I also predict them to just port over the JP UHD 1:1, so in a way it would be one of their first 4k releases provided they don't skimp out at the last minute.

You really have high expectations from FUNimation. lol

No way will they port it over 1:1. That would cause reverse importation if they want to keep it at their normal price point. FAILimation, if they end up releasing it at all, would just do their own lame encode most likely and we all know how good those are (spoiler: not good at all)...

[ProjectB]

Originally Posted by professorwho

You really have high expectations from FUNimation. lol

No way will they port it over 1:1. That would cause reverse importation if they want to keep it at their normal price point. FAILimation, if they end up releasing it at all, would just do their own lame encode most likely and we all know how good those are (spoiler: not good at all)...

To be honest, I thought the video quality of their Blu-ray of Your Name was of reference quality. But, yeah, Funimation isn’t the company that can do it that often.

[KubrickKurasawa]

Hmm Akira on Blu-Ray looks better than GITS Blu-Ray. But the 4K UHD of GITS is the best looking classic Anime I've ever viewed. Maybe you guys are watching 4k Rips?

Anyhow I don't see how this will not be the best looking Classic Anime on the format hands down no questions. I think you guys should buy the discs and not watch youtube comparisons or crappy 10GB sloppy Rips. A Sony 4K set and Animation picture mode does wonders for standard Blu-Rays, and GITS 4K might as well be VR on the format...speaking of VR that would be so DOPE! 4K 35mm Classic Anime in VR!