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Old 06-30-2021, 12:16 AM   #61
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GTA 6 Will Reportedly Be Out In 2025, Will Include Fortnite-Like Evolving Map, and set in a modern-day version of Vice City. -Source
Mentioning Fortnite screams live service and i like my GTA games completely single player, offline and do what i want style. I don't want them ruining the great narrative and satire driven performances with their GTA Online BS to try mill more money. Make it a damn separate product like it is atm
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Old 06-30-2021, 03:30 AM   #62
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2025 is believable since they'll continue to milk GTAV Online for the 3rd console generation. Unbelievable but money talks to Rockstar.

They put a lot into the series over the years, so they probably deserve the freedom to get the most out of GTAV, but honestly, I'm not a big fan of that map with the giant mountains over much of it, which is really a big waste of space where land could've been if they just made the map twice as big as the map in GTAV.

If GTAV PS5 doesn't expand the map or improve the game in some astounding way, I'm not interested. If it's mostly just 4K 60 fps with reflections and the same old story with the trio, I'll pass. No way I'd pay $60 for the same game 3 times now.

It's hard to imagine there will be many changes from their current formula since they already have a big online presence apparently.

I traded in GTAV PS3 with Target's awesome deal to get GTAV PS4 for $30 new way back when. Main reason I upgraded was because of that deal, along with the interior dash views of bikes and vehicles and the 1080p resolution because the 720p looked blurry on PS3. Plus the animal mode is very cool.
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2025 is believable since they'll continue to milk GTAV Online for the 3rd console generation. Unbelievable but money talks to Rockstar.

They put a lot into the series over the years, so they probably deserve the freedom to get the most out of GTAV, but honestly, I'm not a big fan of that map with the giant mountains over much of it, which is really a big waste of space where land could've been if they just made the map twice as big as the map in GTAV.

If GTAV PS5 doesn't expand the map or improve the game in some astounding way, I'm not interested. If it's mostly just 4K 60 fps with reflections and the same old story with the trio, I'll pass. No way I'd pay $60 for the same game 3 times now.

It's hard to imagine there will be many changes from their current formula since they already have a big online presence apparently.

I traded in GTAV PS3 with Target's awesome deal to get GTAV PS4 for $30 new way back when. Main reason I upgraded was because of that deal, along with the interior dash views of bikes and vehicles and the 1080p resolution because the 720p looked blurry on PS3. Plus the animal mode is very cool.
We done know they are not going to expand the GTA 5 map and I hope that map that’s a couple of pages back isn’t the map for GTA 6. It’s basically the GTA 5 map with an island added. They really need to make it how the Scarface game was where you can travel to different places.
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Mentioning Fortnite screams live service and i like my GTA games completely single player, offline and do what i want style. I don't want them ruining the great narrative and satire driven performances with their GTA Online BS to try mill more money. Make it a damn separate product like it is atm
Couldn’t have said it better.

I too want separate modes. Offline more so than Online with GTA.
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Couldn’t have said it better.

I too want separate modes. Offline more so than Online with GTA.
If they go that route it will be the death of Rockstar.
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2025.

That's a 12 year cycle....
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2025.

That's a 12 year cycle....
It's literally the most disgusting thing i've ever had the displeasure to witness. Not a single new GTA entry for an entire console generation. Greedy a55holes.
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It's literally the most disgusting thing i've ever had the displeasure to witness. Not a single new GTA entry for an entire console generation. Greedy a55holes.
What really bothers me most about the online crap is it’s only available online & for real MTX. $$$$$$$$

If that dlc crap was available in single player, I wouldn’t care about what they do with online.

I bet the most people who broke TOS with Sony were people who played that game online. Most Toxic online gaming experience ever released on consoles.
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What really bothers me most about the online crap is it’s only available online & for real MTX. $$$$$$$$

If that dlc crap was available in single player, I wouldn’t care about what they do with online.

I bet the most people who broke TOS with Sony were people who played that game online. Most Toxic online gaming experience ever released on consoles.
I never found playing online in GTA pleasant and its a constant crap fest even if you're just trying to mind your business and play with friends on missions etc.

I actually wasn't impressed with all the 10/10 reviews GTA 4 got back in the day, but after a few years when they had all the DLC out, i played them and found them overall enjoyable and added to the single player. Hundreds of millions, if not over like $2bn at this point from GTA V and not 1 single content of DLC for single player. Releasing GTA Online content and acting as if MTX made it all so possible to keep it Free to Play (which is BS since you need PS+ btw) went out the window with Fortnite, Apex etc.
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I never found playing online in GTA pleasant and its a constant crap fest even if you're just trying to mind your business and play with friends on missions etc.

I actually wasn't impressed with all the 10/10 reviews GTA 4 got back in the day, but after a few years when they had all the DLC out, i played them and found them overall enjoyable and added to the single player. Hundreds of millions, if not over like $2bn at this point from GTA V and not 1 single content of DLC for single player. Releasing GTA Online content and acting as if MTX made it all so possible to keep it Free to Play (which is BS since you need PS+ btw) went out the window with Fortnite, Apex etc.
to be fair Fortnite makes billions from MTX

I think GTA Online should be it's own thing, and make it free to play while they're at it
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Multiplayer has ruined gaming and it will
Be the death of it.
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The only good GTA multiplayer is passing the controller between friends to see who can have the longest, craziest single player rampage.
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Many good comments about why a choice to play a game offline should be an option in GTA and other open world games, because when you just want to explore and some annoying player steps into your path and attacks without purpose each time, that would totally dampen the sense of freedom and enjoyment of a game IMO.

That's a big reason I enjoy exploring game world maps offline. Total freedom to go at your own pace and not have to avoid areas because some dumbass is camped in one spot in the game, sniping at anyone in sight. Let the game AI enemies do that so they can be conquered at least. Human AI is much more persistent and intelligent.

It's neat to see other live players, yeah, but unless it's a team effort and that's one's goal at that moment, I rather have an option for offline.

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We dont know they are not going to expand the GTA 5 map and I hope that map that’s a couple of pages back isn’t the map for GTA 6. It’s basically the GTA 5 map with an island added. They really need to make it how the Scarface game was where you can travel to different places.
I don't think that'll be the map. It's too early and Rockstar keeps a tight lid on their new games better than most. Heck, I haven't even heard anything new about GTAV PS5 yet and it's set for December 2021. But yeah, here's hoping they expand the map so it's not just the same old thing for a 3rd time. That would be lazy as all hell IMO, but I expect that is what will happen considering Rockstar has been lazy as hell with the GTA series 3 times now with no new GTAs since GTAV in 2008.



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It's literally the most disgusting thing i've ever had the displeasure to witness. Not a single new GTA entry for an entire console generation. Greedy a55holes.
I hear what you're saying about the same game regurgitated one too many times now it seems. So it better offer a lot of new stuff IMO.

Repeated Releases of GTA V:
GTA V 17 PS3, Xbox 360
September 2013

GTA V PS4, Xbox One
18 November 2014

GTA V Microsoft Windows
14 April 2015

GTA V PS5, Xbox Series X/S
11 November 2021

Again, if it's just superficial improvements like higher resolution and frame rate and reflections and little else, I'll avoid it. It better be groundbreaking stuff IMO for being lazy with only GTAV Online content releases it seems.

RDR2 was developed by a separate team at Rockstar in many aspects. But that game didn't resonate with many players online like GTAV does.

Almost 10 years of GTAV. It's a great game on PS4, but enough already. I was disappointed when they announced GTAV for PS5 yet again, as it means we won't see GTAVI till likely October 2025...

If GTAVI is online only, I would avoid it for the first time in the series. GTAV PS5 having an offline mode hopefully is a decent sign anyway.
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What would be cool in GTA 6 is if you get attacked going into another gangs Territories and make all the missions pay out and pay good. I tried doing that strategy you do in GTA 5 with the stock market but was never able to pull it off. And Rockstar should sell the main single campaign separate from the online multiplayer. There should be no reason I should have to keep downloading updates for something I don’t use and the game files would be a lot smaller as well.

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What would be cool in GTA 6 is if you get attacked going into another gangs Territories and make all the missions pay out and pay good. I tried doing that strategy you do in GTA 5 with the stock market but was never able to pull it off. And Rockstar should sell the main single campaign separate from the online multiplayer. There should be no reason I should have to keep downloading updates for something I don’t use and the game files would be a lot smaller as well.
Payouts would be helpful if needing more cash in the game.

They'll lump them together unfortunately, so the updates for the PS5 game will include mostly online stuff, with only tiny files of single player until a possible DLC arrives for offline single player, which I'll guess won't happen.

I wish there was an offline zombie mode, like Undead Nightmare, but Rockstar isn't the same as years ago. No Undead Nightmare 2 in RDR2. That would've been cool to see.
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Payouts would be helpful if needing more cash in the game.

They'll lump them together unfortunately, so the updates for the PS5 game will include mostly online stuff, with only tiny files of single player until a possible DLC arrives for offline single player, which I'll guess won't happen.

I wish there was an offline zombie mode, like Undead Nightmare, but Rockstar isn't the same as years ago. No Undead Nightmare 2 in RDR2. That would've been cool to see.
The Rockstar we grew up with died when they decided to make a Multiplayer mode. Plus add in all the people who have left or been let go from Rockstar that made their games what they was. I’m not against them having multiplayer I knew eventually they would do it but I wouldn’t have believed it that they would prioritize it over their single player experience since they take great pride in delivering great single player games. If they made DLC for both RDR 2 and GTA 5 single player it would sell and made them millions. It’s not like it would have hurt them or slow them down on any of their other projects.
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What would be cool in GTA 6 is if you get attacked going into another gangs Territories and make all the missions pay out and pay good. I tried doing that strategy you do in GTA 5 with the stock market but was never able to pull it off. And Rockstar should sell the main single campaign separate from the online multiplayer. There should be no reason I should have to keep downloading updates for something I don’t use and the game files would be a lot smaller as well.
Oh, i cheated to hell in single player for cash lol. I did the glitch of where you switch between Franklin and Michael to get the cash in the sea constantly and then during an assassination mission i noticed the stock price plummets so i bought that stock with all the cash i glitched and when it finished a couple of in game days later, i was a billionaire lol

Online though, definitely read they make it so people want to use MTX. Which i have no problem with for them to try sustain the servers, contenr etc. but as mentioned, it needs to become a stand alone product.

Fortnite, Apex, Warzone etc. all hugely successful, constantly updated and so on where MTX don't feel forced on you but optional.
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My estimate is a daily income of just over $1,000,000 per day since mid 2014 for Rockstar.

Or maybe around $8,000,000,000 of revenue since it launched.
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The Rockstar we grew up with died when they decided to make a Multiplayer mode. Plus add in all the people who have left or been let go from Rockstar that made their games what they was. I’m not against them having multiplayer I knew eventually they would do it but I wouldn’t have believed it that they would prioritize it over their single player experience since they take great pride in delivering great single player games. If they made DLC for both RDR 2 and GTA 5 single player it would sell and made them millions. It’s not like it would have hurt them or slow them down on any of their other projects.
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My estimate is a daily income of just over $1,000,000 per day since mid 2014 for Rockstar.

Or maybe around $8,000,000,000 of revenue since it launched.
That's insane and the main reason Rockstar sticks with the online gaming. They want to extend this fortune of revenue for as long as they can, at the cost of single player DLC unfortunately.

Did GTAV on PS3 ever get any DLC story lines for single player offline?

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Agreed.



That's insane and the main reason Rockstar sticks with the online gaming. They want to extend this fortune of revenue for as long as they can, at the cost of single player DLC unfortunately.

Did GTAV on PS3 ever get any DLC story lines for single player offline?

What Happened To GTA 5 Story Mode DLC? Why Did Rockstar Abandon It? - YouTube
No GTA 5 never got any Single player DLC on any system. They said they would make DLC but never did.
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