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Old 07-26-2021, 02:19 AM   #61
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Nah, Wiseman hasn't directed anything since the second one, which had a really grindy sex scene and was made after they were married. Kate Beckinsale also has a daughter - who appears as the young version of Selene in the second film - with her ex-husband Michael Sheen who also happens to still be good buddies with Wiseman so I doubt he's a ragey jealous type. It's probably more like Speedman wasn't keen on continuing playing the same role so they just wrote him out.
“At one point [in the story development] we were thinking about bringing in Michael into more of the story. It just started to battle and distract from the mother/daughter story with Eve, the new character. It just started happening script-wise. It started to take the importance of Eve [India Eisley] down. You can’t just have Michael in there as a sub-character because he’s so important and if you’re going to have another important character show up, it just washes that relationship entirely. That’s a bit of where it just became what it became. If you got involved in the Michael relationship, it would have overshadowed the new one. With parts one and two, we told, a little bit, of the same relationship story and I didn’t want to do that a third time. If we’re going to do another one, let’s put a different relationship in there. Scott’s a friend of mine and he knew what I was doing from the beginning, we talk every week so it was just, ‘This is the story we’re going with in the third one.'”
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“At one point [in the story development] we were thinking about bringing in Michael into more of the story. It just started to battle and distract from the mother/daughter story with Eve, the new character. It just started happening script-wise. It started to take the importance of Eve [India Eisley] down. You can’t just have Michael in there as a sub-character because he’s so important and if you’re going to have another important character show up, it just washes that relationship entirely. That’s a bit of where it just became what it became. If you got involved in the Michael relationship, it would have overshadowed the new one. With parts one and two, we told, a little bit, of the same relationship story and I didn’t want to do that a third time. If we’re going to do another one, let’s put a different relationship in there. Scott’s a friend of mine and he knew what I was doing from the beginning, we talk every week so it was just, ‘This is the story we’re going with in the third one.'”
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Ah yeah, that makes sense. Either way, it's nothing to do with Len being some sort of green-eyed jealousy monster.
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Nah, Wiseman hasn't directed anything since the second one, which had a really grindy sex scene and was made after they were married. Kate Beckinsale also has a daughter - who appears as the young version of Selene in the second film - with her ex-husband Michael Sheen who also happens to still be good buddies with Wiseman so I doubt he's a ragey jealous type. It's probably more like Speedman wasn't keen on continuing playing the same role so they just wrote him out.
Actually, Len Wiseman directed Live Free or Die Hard as well as Total Recall - both after Underworld Evolution.

But I agree about Speedman. I feel like he probably chose not to come back.

Kind of makes you wonder what the films from Awakening and on would have been like had he stayed.
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“At one point [in the story development] we were thinking about bringing in Michael into more of the story. It just started to battle and distract from the mother/daughter story with Eve, the new character. It just started happening script-wise. It started to take the importance of Eve [India Eisley] down. You can’t just have Michael in there as a sub-character because he’s so important and if you’re going to have another important character show up, it just washes that relationship entirely. That’s a bit of where it just became what it became. If you got involved in the Michael relationship, it would have overshadowed the new one. With parts one and two, we told, a little bit, of the same relationship story and I didn’t want to do that a third time. If we’re going to do another one, let’s put a different relationship in there. Scott’s a friend of mine and he knew what I was doing from the beginning, we talk every week so it was just, ‘This is the story we’re going with in the third one.'”
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Thanks! I can see the reasoning there.

Still would have been nice if he actually was in Awakening and had some actual dialogue. haha

Awakening almost pulled an Alien 3 with Michael, but saved it in the end by saying he's still alive. haha
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Oof. That better drop in price...

But I preordered and am eagerly awaiting Best Buy's preorder to go live.

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Oof. That better drop in price...
Oh don’t worry it won’t. It will actually double in price! Bezos needs new seats for his rocket!
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Oof. That better drop in price...

But I preordered and am eagerly awaiting Best Buy's preorder to go live.
I'd rather pay that price, then the enviable eBay price that comes after it sells out.
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Oof. That better drop in price...

But I preordered and am eagerly awaiting Best Buy's preorder to go live.
$20ish per film is probably on par with what it'd be if they were released by themselves. I'll gladly pay that.
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Same MSRP with 1 less movie (2 discs less) than the Resident Evil Collection. The MRSP really shouldn’t be more than $79.99.
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Pre-ordered.
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They made 5 of these? I've only watched parts of the first one. Couldn't get past all the bad CGI. Not even Kate Beckinsale, whom I've always had a huge crush on, could save the film.
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They made 5 of these? I've only watched parts of the first one. Couldn't get past all the bad CGI. Not even Kate Beckinsale, whom I've always had a huge crush on, could save the film.
I'm quite certain somewhere in your 5000 movie collection you have worse films than Underworld.
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Actually, Len Wiseman directed Live Free or Die Hard as well as Total Recall - both after Underworld Evolution.

But I agree about Speedman. I feel like he probably chose not to come back.

Kind of makes you wonder what the films from Awakening and on would have been like had he stayed.
I meant he didn't direct any more Underworld movies. In fact, in the supplements on Rise of the Lycans it explains that he didn't direct that one because he was exhausted after doing Die Hard 4. He did co-write Awakening but didn't have any input on the last one aside from being one of the half-dozen producers.
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Pre-ordered as soon as I saw it was available. I'm waiting on Bull Moose to list it; They usually beat Amazon's price by a substantial margin on the more expensive 4K movies/sets (plus Amazon has had a very bad habit of not having the product in stock lately on pre-ordered movies when they actually come out). I'll cancel Amazon and use Bull Moose if/when it becomes available.
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I do. None have Playstation 1-level CGI, though
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I do. None have Playstation 1-level CGI, though
Funny - I think most people feel that Underworld's use of practical effects puts to shame most CG films of that era and now that even try to depict werewolves or any fantasy/horror creatures. But hey, to each their own...
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They made 5 of these? I've only watched parts of the first one. Couldn't get past all the bad CGI. Not even Kate Beckinsale, whom I've always had a huge crush on, could save the film.
How dare you. The Underworld films are awesome. No slander allowed here
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I do. None have Playstation 1-level CGI, though
Is this being confused with Van Helsing, perhaps? I recently watched Underworld and it has a lot of practical effects.


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