How idiotic must Ken Graffeo feel now.... - Page 4 - Blu-ray Forum

MrBogey · 02-19-2008, 03:38 PM

Ken Graffeo was doing what his job required him. It's the guys like Amir and his band of toadies that really were going well beyond their job. It's one thing to be an evangelical. It's another to be a crusader. You can't fault a guy for being on the wrong side. Only the actions he takes while on the wrong side that goes beyond mere evangelicalism or opposition.

BStecke · 02-19-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Slec

Why is it so hard to understand that when you are under contract to do a job, you do it to the best of your ability. You do not undermine it, you do not act in direlection of duty. I have no problem with the heads of Uni/Paramount. They wanted this over as much as the next guy and did what they thought was appropriate. They were wrong. It happens. Doesn't mean anyone here (I'm sure few of us are executives with decision wielding power or responsibility like Graffeo) has the right to belittle someone for the crime of being wrong. Even if you disagree with how he promoted HD DVD, or his role at HDPRG, that was his job... You notice when the shit hit the fan, Toshiba corporate stepped in, Graffeo wasn't about to defend HD DVD as a better format with absolutely no market support.

Would you make these comments to him in person? I think not. We can hide behind out Avatar's and handles, he cannot. Such is the anonymity of the internet.

I agree. A lot of us work in companies and perform duties that we don't like or don't believe in. Graffeo stood by what his duties demanded of him, and if he does the same for Blu-ray, I'm all for it. Yes, he made some stupid comments along the way, but he really didn't have many positives for HD DVD to talk about. There are a LOT more people behind HD DVD than Ken Graffeo. I was actually more irritated by Robert Zohn and Michael Greeson's comments at EMA than anything Graffeo said. Kevin Collins' smugness always pissed me off too. My biggest gripe with Graffeo mostly hangs on the fact that he didn't seem to do a lot of homework about Blu-ray before making comments.

I'd be more inclined to blame people who actually bought HD DVD players and movies for prolonging the war, knowing that HD DVD was an inferior format, but that would be just as stupid.

Sylin · 02-19-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Slec

Would you make these comments to him in person?

Yup. My mouth doesn't write checks my body can't cash.

sj001 · 02-19-2008, 05:03 PM

We of course don't know him personally, but here is Penton's comments.. please lay off of him.

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

P.S.
Again, please everybody be kind to Ken G., as I said repeatedly in the past - he's a good guy and he was just doing his job.

Slec · 02-19-2008, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ikcizokm

Yup. My mouth doesn't write checks my body can't cash.

Understandable that you would, I haven't seen you calling him an Ass-clown, idiot, moron, hack, incompetent or any number of other things I've seen (not just on this site, to be fair). [/end response to ikcizokm specifically]

One does not get to his position in a company by being those things, no matter how fervent a fanboy says to the contrary.

Anyone who wants to rub it in that he made the wrong choice in this war, I guess you can do that, but what does it amount to?

What do you think about the BS being thrown about Penton and Bill on other sites?

w_tanoto · 02-19-2008, 05:15 PM

why the announcement is being made by kornblau instead of graffeo? I wonder if something really happened to him

dobyblue · 02-19-2008, 07:43 PM

"Our 4th quarter releases will be stronger" said Graffeo, after taking a slow deep draw on his massive spliff of ganja.

Sylin · 02-19-2008, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by w_tanoto

why the announcement is being made by kornblau instead of graffeo? I wonder if something really happened to him

I noticed that, too. He might feel the need to remain "mum" presently, or might be unable to comment directly because of his affiliation with the HD DVD PG?

PS... the picture in the post above me made me

hharrizons · 02-20-2008, 07:13 AM

Universal president Craig Kornblau announced Universal went blu-ray.
Isn't it Ken G.'s job (VP of Marketing) to announce that?

Where is Ken G.?
We miss his globe-trotting misdirecting marketing hoopla!!!!

I think he is hiding inside the mount or Moria, along with the TROLLS!

:-)

Horhay · 02-20-2008, 07:15 AM

Looking for a new job!

MOONPHASE · 02-20-2008, 07:16 AM

maybe he is at home crying to his pillow saying why hd-dvd? why did you have to die?

Blu-Beard · 02-20-2008, 07:17 AM

This guy?

MOONPHASE · 02-20-2008, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu-Beard

This guy?

heh no

mattym · 02-20-2008, 07:21 AM

maybe hes standing in front of his mirror practicing saying 'i thought hddvd was better' while keeping a straight face?

Marcusarilius · 02-20-2008, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by horhay2313

Looking for a new job!

"Would you like fries with that?"

Living Near Shamu · 02-20-2008, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcusarilius

"Would you like fries with that?"

http://www.starterupsteve.com/swf/burgerking.html

02-20-2008, 07:13 AM	#69
hharrizons Member Member since:Nov 2007	Where in the world is Ken G. (Kenny G of HD-DVD)? Universal president Craig Kornblau announced Universal went blu-ray. Isn't it Ken G.'s job (VP of Marketing) to announce that? Where is Ken G.? We miss his globe-trotting misdirecting marketing hoopla!!!! I think he is hiding inside the mount or Moria, along with the TROLLS! :-)

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02-19-2008, 03:38 PM	#61
MrBogey Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007	Ken Graffeo was doing what his job required him. It's the guys like Amir and his band of toadies that really were going well beyond their job. It's one thing to be an evangelical. It's another to be a crusader. You can't fault a guy for being on the wrong side. Only the actions he takes while on the wrong side that goes beyond mere evangelicalism or opposition.

02-19-2008, 05:15 PM	#66
w_tanoto Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hatfield, UK / Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:47	why the announcement is being made by kornblau instead of graffeo? I wonder if something really happened to him

02-19-2008, 07:43 PM	#67
dobyblue Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:71 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:655 Blu-ray reviews: 15	"Our 4th quarter releases will be stronger" said Graffeo, after taking a slow deep draw on his massive spliff of ganja.

02-20-2008, 07:15 AM	#70
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02-20-2008, 07:16 AM	#71
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02-20-2008, 07:17 AM	#72
Blu-Beard Banned Member since:Jan 2008	This guy?

02-20-2008, 07:21 AM	#74
mattym Expert Member Member since:Jun 2007	maybe hes standing in front of his mirror practicing saying 'i thought hddvd was better' while keeping a straight face?

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