Disney Adding Dolby Vision To Future 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray Releases plus 100GB discs

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

Hopefully one day Sony and LG might consider adding HDR10+ for flat panels and projectors especially since many streaming providers now do HDR10+. Some streaming programs are Dolby Vision HDR and other streaming programming is HDR10+. Same is true with 4K Blu-ray discs while some studios for some 4K Blu-ray titles do both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision HDR.

LG & Sony aren't going to pay royalties (there are annual licensing fees) to Samsung & Panasonic for their HDR standard patent grab, not to mention sharing technologies. Nearly all the programming available in HDR10+ is also available in DV. HDR10+ on disc is pretty much dead. While physical media is far from healthy it's still alive and kicking - as we all here know.

Samsung/Panasonic sure have the nerve building on Dolby's open standard - HDR10.

[PonyoBellanote]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

Good news, Disney is adding Dolby Vision and using triple layer discs in the future.
Bad news, Disney has no plan on releasing any discs in the future.

How do you know that? The year has just started and I do have a hunch Disney will give us a lot of surprises this year, now that all the hussle of the Sony transition is done.

[HDTV1080P]

Many videophiles would be willing to pay a extra $50 to $100 if their display offered both Dolby Vision HDR and HDR10+. The royalties cost can be passed on to the consumer. The latest 8K A/V receivers have both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision HDR pass through technology, many 4K streaming boxes have both, and many 4K Blu-ray players have both. Let the content providers decide which HDR format they want to use and in the ideal world all Smart TV’s and projectors should support both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision HDR. For a display that is kept 10+ years another $100 in order to have both from one display most videophiles would be willing to pay. Some of the 4K projectors cost between $6,000-$250,000+.

But if I had a choice between one or the other, I would choose Dolby Vision HDR.

[cachookaman]

HDR10+ is technically inferior to DV and DV was introduced even before regular HDR10. DV is the de facto gold standard for HDR.

[Hbx360]

IMO, the triple layer part is not that important for most of their movies, given the length, especially animated ones. But for longer films such as West Side Story or some of the Marvel films, it did feel like a missed opportunity. Although to be fair, Fox releases never used triple layer discs outside of Alien, from what I can gather.

[jedidarrick]

Originally Posted by Driver78

Any change now may set their plans back again. We just need to be patient.

I normally would scoff, but Alex Winter teased an announcement regarding Freaked, so Disney, hold off on changing management until I have a 4K of Freaked in my hand.
...Assuming Disney still owns the rights and it isn't a 28 Days Later situation.

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

HDR10+ goes to 10-bit and that's it. It's in the name.

There are no true 12-bit displays, much less 16-bit.

LG doesn't support HDR10+

I just verified on a old year 2008 Pioneer PRO-101FD (also true on the PRO-141FD) Elite Signature series 2K plasma that the year 2016 OPPO UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player when playing a Dolby Vision HDR 4K Blu-ray disc, detects the media as 12 bit color depth and then over the HDMI output on the OPPO handshakes with the old Pioneer plasma and sends true 12 bit color depth to the Pioneer plasma. Once the Pioneer plasma receives the 12 bit color it then uses 36 bit deep color.

There does exist $400,000+ high-end DLP projectors that do true 12 bit color depth.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

I just verified on a old year 2008 Pioneer PRO-101FD (also true on the PRO-141FD) Elite Signature series 2K plasma that the year 2016 OPPO UDP-203 4K Blu-ray player when playing a Dolby Vision HDR 4K Blu-ray disc, detects the media as 12 bit color depth and then over the HDMI output on the OPPO handshakes with the old Pioneer plasma and sends true 12 bit color depth to the Pioneer plasma. Once the Pioneer plasma receives the 12 bit color it then uses 36 bit deep color.

Plenty of displays will *accept* a 12-bit signal.

They do not display it. It gets dithered down to the panel's actual color depth, which is usually 10-bit and sometimes 8-bit.

There does exist $400,000+ high-end DLP projectors that do true 12 bit color depth.

Yes, but those aren't considered normal consumer displays.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Plenty of displays will *accept* a 12-bit signal.

They do not display it. It gets dithered down to the panel's actual color depth, which is usually 10-bit and sometimes 8-bit.


Yes, but those aren't considered normal consumer displays.

I still wonder how many of those "10-bit" panels are actually 8-bit + FRC. Even then, if you do get a genuine 10-bit panel does the display's processing have enough bit depth to cope with it? So many complaints about banding/posterisation in the early years of UHD because TVs simply couldn't handle it properly.

[kristoffer]

But despite the rumor the Alien Romulus disc isn’t 100 gb? That’s disappointing.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I still wonder how many of those "10-bit" panels are actually 8-bit + FRC. Even then, if you do get a genuine 10-bit panel does the display's processing have enough bit depth to cope with it? So many complaints about banding/posterisation in the early years of UHD because TVs simply couldn't handle it properly.

Yeah, you have to wonder how much of that was marketing gobbeldygook.
Then again, maybe they simply didn't have enough DSP horsepower to properly process all that data coming in. Sony's Bravia Engine on our sets upsampled the image and dithered it down to the panel's native precisely because it had the muscle to do it.

Originally Posted by kristoffer

But despite the rumor the Alien Romulus disc isn’t 100 gb? That’s disappointing.

It's under 2 hours, no extras, few audio tracks. More than enough for Disney's compressionists.