Your TV sucks! (Wrong aspect ratio and shape)

[pacfwu]

Speakers behind the screen were a much bigger improvement than I was expecting. Even though I'm running a rather modest speaker selection (no sense in going too wild in the audio due to my theater's proximity to my next door neighbor's bedroom), it was a massive improvement to have the front stage use 3 identical speakers and have them fire from the correct spaces relative to image.

[Warm Gun]

Originally Posted by Vilya

There are short throw and ultra short throw projectors that supposedly do a pretty good job and these will work even in very small rooms.

The Hisense PX3-PRO can project a 90" image just 6.6 inches from the screen. It can project an image from 80"-150", including 130" at a distance of just 14.3 inches from the screen.

Review here:

https://www.rtings.com/projector/rev...3-pro#page-top

I singled this model out because at least three different review sites picked it out as their favorite:

https://www.pcmag.com/picks/the-best...test_variant=B

https://www.projectorcentral.com/Hisense-PX3-PRO.htm

There are plenty of other makes and models at varying price points to choose from as well.

There are options available that give you the aspect ratio control that you want, but it is becoming apparent that you are not looking for solutions. It looks like you are just here to complain that there are no 21:9 TVs on the market, yet alone ones with a curved screen.

I wonder if you have made any effort to contact any of the TV manufacturers about what you want to see in a TV or if you are just here to ? Before you repeat your "it's a conspiracy" nonsense did you even try reaching out to them with your oh-so compelling arguments? I doubt that it would accomplish much, but you sure as hell aren't accomplishing anything here beyond maybe venting some of your frustration.

Your choices remain as they were before: 16:9 TVs or projectors or ineffectual complaining.

Looks like short throw projectors can't project properly onto curved screens or it's really complicated, requiring more software. Curved ultra wide TV still makes more sense.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

Curved ultra wide TV still makes more sense.

Something that is not manufactured and that you can not have makes more sense how exactly?

As hard as it may be you are going to have to live in the real world with the rest of us and choose from products that actually exist or do without.

[apricissimus]

TVs are amazing now. Incredible. Beautiful. And you can get one pretty cheap! It's astonishing to me that people can still complain, and even say that they "suck".

[Telemachus]

Lol wtf

[chip75]

At the end of the day there are options, and modular screens will get better and cheaper.

The main issue is how manufacturers see their consumers, we could relatively easily have high tech RO-LEDs, we've seen them go from full height to a few inches to accommodate a small UI.

As nits and resolution become less of an issue, we could see aspect ratio as the next battleground, but it's something the average punter doesn't understand, but we know there's definitely a Screen Fillers society lurking in the inky shadows... somewhere.

And as much as I'd love IMAX filling my screen as it switches from 2.35:1, I'd still fudge it to watch The Next Generation in 4:3.
My resistance is very much futile.

[bhampton]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

Looks like short throw projectors can't project properly onto curved screens or it's really complicated, requiring more software. Curved ultra wide TV still makes more sense.

Curved screens yuk! I do hope you get what you want but I think you may want the wrong stuff.

[Warm Gun]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Curved screens yuk! I do hope you get what you want but I think you may want the wrong stuff.

Flat screen that size is moronic unless you're watching from an angle, and movies are better a solitary experience in my opinion. I don't even have a center channel for this reason (and the speaker not being high enough below the TV). The subtle 2500R curve of my Dell UltraSharp 40 is not perceivable when I look from a normal sitting distance. It looks flat. But a flat 65 inch TV appears to bulge out in the center when viewed from a distance where one can still make out the fine details. Most gamer monitors have terrible curves. The curve of a TV must be only slight.

[Vilya]

Everybody is doing it wrong, so sayeth the OP.

Curved TVs were once offered and the consumer rejected them. The market has spoken.

Even if curved 21:9 TVs were available I have no doubt that the degree of curvature would not suit the OP. Nothing pleases the OP.

I have never heard anyone anywhere complain that the image on a large flat screen appeared to be bulged at the center. I have never heard anyone complain about the usage of center channel speakers, either, until I came to this bizarre thread.

Another day and another whine and cheese platter with the OP's choices remaining the same as before: 16:9 TVs, projectors, or shadow puppet theater on his curved cave wall.

[jvonl]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

movies are better a solitary experience in my opinion

And I bet that's easy for you to accomplish....

[Warm Gun]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Everybody is doing it wrong, so sayeth the OP.

Curved TVs were once offered and the consumer rejected them. The market has spoken.

It was a stupid half-measure. They were 16:9, so of course people didn't see the point of the curve. Also, I'm guessing that the manufacturers treated it more as a gimmick, so overdid their curves.

I have never heard anyone anywhere complain that the image on a large flat screen appeared to be bulged at the center.

Ignorance is bliss. You see the distortion too, unless you sit so far from the screen that you don't even see the fine details.

[Vilya]

By all means don't just tell us that we are doing it all wrong, tell the TV manufacturers, too. Be sure sure to tell them the degree of curvature that you want, if you even know yourself. I am confident that they will change everything to suit you because of your incontrovertible logic.

I sit 8-8.5 feet away from my moronic 85" 16:9 flat screen TV blissfully ignorant of a distorted center image that I surely must see because you insist that it is there. I will be sure to bring it up with my ophthalmologist at my next appointment.

This moronic ignoramus somehow knows enough to utilize and enjoy products that actually exist instead of ineffectually bleating about those that do not. I even enjoy my 5.1.4 surround system including its center channel.

There's definitely a among us, I will give you that.

[Warm Gun]

Originally Posted by Vilya

By all means don't just tell us that we are doing it all wrong, tell the TV manufacturers, too. Be sure sure to tell them the degree of curvature that you want, if you even know yourself. I am confident that they will change everything to suit you because of your incontrovertible logic.

I sit 8-8.5 feet away from my moronic 85" 16:9 flat screen TV blissfully ignorant of a distorted center image that I surely must see because you insist that it is there. I will be sure to bring it up with my ophthalmologist at my next appointment.

This moronic ignoramus somehow knows enough to utilize and enjoy products that actually exist instead of ineffectually bleating about those that do not. I even enjoy my 5.1.4 surround system including its center channel.

There's definitely a among us, I will give you that.

I don't condescend, I tell you how it is and you can do with that what you want. Your giant image is distorted. The center of the screen is closer to you than the edges of the screen.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

I don't condescend, I tell you how it is and you can do with that what you want. Your giant image is distorted. The center of the screen is closer to you than the edges of the screen.

I, and others, have told you "how it is" regarding what is available to you and we already know what you are doing with that information.

My "giant" image is not distorted by any measure that I can perceive. No one else who has viewed my TV has seen any distortion, either. Guess we are all just a bunch of blissful moronic ignoramuses.

How much effort and energy do you recommend that we expend complaining about non-existent, or even just imperceptible, flaws? Should we...wait for it...contact the TV manufacturer and demand that they fix what none of us, save you, can see?

This is where I leave you. I will keep enjoying what actually exists while you keep on grousing about what does not.

[Warm Gun]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I, and others, have told you "how it is" regarding what is available to you and we already know what you are doing with that information.

My "giant" image is not distorted by any measure that I can perceive. No one else who has viewed my TV has seen any distortion, either. Guess we are all just a bunch of blissful moronic ignoramuses.

How much effort and energy do you recommend that we expend complaining about non-existent, or even just imperceptible, flaws? Should we...wait for it...contact the TV manufacturer and demand that they fix what none of us, save you, can see?

This is where I leave you. I will keep enjoying what actually exists while you keep on grousing about what does not.

It's distorted. I just explained it to you. Not you're being dishonest. How are you gonna argue against space? Go very gradually closer to your TV to confirm. The edges will slowly bend more.

[Vilya]

How are you going to argue against what I see or do not see? If I do not see any distortion from my preferred viewing position, why would I move from that spot and go looking for problems?

I watched a movie that exceeded fours hours in length tonight and I actively looked for this alleged center screen distortion from my customary viewing position 8' from my 85" screen. I did not see any.

[Warm Gun]

Originally Posted by Vilya

How are you going to argue against what I see or do not see? If I do not see any distortion from my preferred viewing position, why would I move from that spot and go looking for problems?

I watched a movie that exceeded fours hours in length tonight and I actively looked for this alleged center screen distortion from my customary viewing position 8' from my 85" screen. I did not see any.

Because I know what you see and I don't care about what you claim. We have the same kinds of human eyes. Actually, it's the whole screen, not just the center like I said before. Again, you're closer to the center than the edges. A curve is the only way to mitigate it. Making an 81 inch 21:9 TV flat (and I use that example because it's the same height as the 65 inch I'm used to) would be particularly moronic. There's a reason almost all ultra wide monitors are curved.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

Because I know what you see and I don't care about what you claim.

The part in bold is categorically and objectively false. You do not have my eyesight, my perception, my equipment, or my viewing environment just to name a few of the differences between us.

I do not see any distortion anywhere on my 85" screen and your insistence that I do is friggin' hilarious.

You're right that making ultra wide TVs would be moronic; it's why they don't do it. You still haven't told us what degree of screen curvature is necessary to achieve your fantasy 21:9 TV; methinks it is because you do not have the slightest idea.

As for not caring, I think that you actually do as you reply to me frequently. Of course, it is not like you have anyone else to talk with here.

[Warm Gun]

"Again, you're closer to the center than the edges."

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[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Warm Gun

"Again, you're closer to the center than the edges."

"Again, you're closer to the center than the edges."

"Again, you're closer to the center than the edges."

"Again, you're closer to the center than the edges."

"Again, you're closer to the center than the edges."

Again, no one cares. No one is complaining about any of the nonsense that you are.

Here's another dose of reality for you: there are no 21:9 TVs, curved or flat, because there is no demand for them. Everybody must really enjoy those distorted images that you insist that we all see.