Dark City 4K UHD (1998) (Arrow Video) (UK)

[lolwut]

Whoever did this art and The Cell needs to be replaced!

[DKLou]

I mean, I want this in 4K and all but $59 bucks? Uhh. Ehhh.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by DKLou

I mean, I want this in 4K and all but $59 bucks? Uhh. Ehhh.

[Show spoiler]

Most of the boutique retailers have it for $38.99

https://diabolikdvd.com/product/4k-d...row-us-4k-uhd/

https://www.orbitdvd.com/collections...imited-edition

https://www.atomicmoviestore.com/pro...o-u-s-preorder

https://brotherbelial.com/products/p...rrow-us-4k-uhd

[jordanjabroni]

Originally Posted by mar3o

It's dreadful. I'm buying a film, not a comic book.

Could always toss or store away the outer design and flip the sleeve on the case...

[RevolverOcelScott]

Originally Posted by mar3o

Which is about $50 with shipping, tax and insurance (from Diabolik). That's still money that has to come out of the bank account).

Wait for 2 more items to get free shipping from Orbit, or wait to add a 13+ dollar item for free shipping from Atomic.

[RocShemp]

Originally Posted by PondaBaba

Iirc the DC had its colour grade redone, or at least the BD release of it did. If I’m correct in that and currently we’ve got the TC with something closer to the original colour timing and DC revised, has anything been said re: what form each will appear on for these new arrow discs? i.e. will the TC retain the old colour or be revised to match the DC?

I'll have to dig up my BD, but as I recall the color grade was untouched. The big issues were that only the new footage was sourced from a new master and the BD uses seamless branching. So the DC would look great and crappy from shot to shot. It was very jarring.

Another issue is that the DC uses temp audio for certain scenes (i.e. Connelly singing, Hurt playing the accordion, and the poor-turned-rich couple during the big tuning sequence). The quality of said acting and singing/playing was notably inferior to that of the TC. However, the DC is still the superior cut of the movie.

[mikesncc1701]

Didn't Proyas say at some point he preferred Jennifer Connelly's voice take over the more polished theatrical edit or am I misremembering something?

[SpacemanDoug]

Originally Posted by PondaBaba

Iirc the DC had its colour grade redone, or at least the BD release of it did. If I’m correct in that and currently we’ve got the TC with something closer to the original colour timing and DC revised, has anything been said re: what form each will appear on for these new arrow discs? i.e. will the TC retain the old colour or be revised to match the DC?

if you're referring to the initial theatrical cut DVD, I highly doubt that's remotely theatrically accurate considering that was a DVD dating as far back as 1999

not saying that the BD represents a theatrically accurate grade either, but don't ever think that the theatrical cut DVD represents how it looked theatrically

[SpacemanDoug]

Originally Posted by RocShemp

I'll have to dig up my BD, but as I recall the color grade was untouched. The big issues were that only the new footage was sourced from a new master and the BD uses seamless branching. So the DC would look great and crappy from shot to shot. It was very jarring.

The BD didn't have both cuts branched, it was literally two entirely separate files. (and the fact that capsaholic has both cuts as a separate set of caps proves this) That BD looked terrible all around due to the heavy amount of DNR in every scene in both cuts.

Originally Posted by RocShemp

Another issue is that the DC uses temp audio for certain scenes (i.e. Connelly singing, Hurt playing the accordion, and the poor-turned-rich couple during the big tuning sequence). The quality of said acting and singing/playing was notably inferior to that of the TC. However, the DC is still the superior cut of the movie.

I highly disagree regarding Connelly's singing, I think restoring her voice was a very smart decision. Anita Kelsey's voice isn't bad, but it isn't as good as Connely's and definitely isn't as fitting either. I'd say using Kelsey's voice in the theatrical cut is actually more jarring cause you're hearing a completely different voice compared to the non-singing scenes.

[PondaBaba]

Originally Posted by RocShemp

I'll have to dig up my BD, but as I recall the color grade was untouched.

I must have misremembered then, I’ve got the German BD of the TC and for some reason had thought the reason I had this rather than the US release with both cuts was a revised colour grade (that I thought I didn’t like the look of) but having checked the caps just now I see it’s indeed identical between the two. I guess it will have been the fact that…:

Originally Posted by SpacemanDoug

That BD looked terrible all around due to the heavy amount of DNR in every scene in both cuts.

is what made me go for the German disc if it doesn’t have DNR (I can’t remember and I’ve never watched it)

Originally Posted by SpacemanDoug

[Show spoiler]if you're referring to the initial theatrical cut DVD, I highly doubt that's remotely theatrically accurate considering that was a DVD dating as far back as 1999

not saying that the BD represents a theatrically accurate grade either, but don't ever think that the theatrical cut DVD represents how it looked theatrically

Thanks but no, was not thinking of the DVD, have never seen it

[Show spoiler](or any disc/digital version of the film at all, only seen it once which was actually via an old 35mm release print a year or two ago)

I was just completely misremembering what I thought was up with previous BD releases

[SpacemanDoug]

Originally Posted by PondaBaba

[Show spoiler]I must have misremembered then, I’ve got the German BD of the TC and for some reason had thought the reason I had this rather than the US release with both cuts was a revised colour grade (that I thought I didn’t like the look of) but having checked the caps just now I see it’s indeed identical between the two. I guess it will have been the fact that…:

is what made me go for the German disc if it doesn’t have DNR (I can’t remember and I’ve never watched it)



Thanks but no, was not thinking of the DVD, have never seen it

[Show spoiler](or any disc/digital version of the film at all, only seen it once which was actually via an old 35mm release print a year or two ago)

I was just completely misremembering what I thought was up with previous BD releases

The German BD was the same master pre-DNR yes, but I didn't get it only because it didn't have the director's cut, only the theatrical cut

[yetanotherone]

Does he have to say it out loud.. Since it's a change he made for the director's cut, it's obvious he decided he preferred it.

[mikesncc1701]

Originally Posted by yetanotherone

Does he have to say it out loud.. Since it's a change he made for the director's cut, it's obvious he decided he preferred it.

[VIDEOgameDROME]

Hate the artwork on this one. I've never seen the Director's Cut before so I'm psyched to experience it for the first time in 4K with Atmos.

[RocShemp]

Originally Posted by yetanotherone

Does he have to say it out loud.. Since it's a change he made for the director's cut, it's obvious he decided he preferred it.

You're likely right, but it's not always the case. The scenes of her singing are longer in the DC (and there's even an extra song in the DC). It's likely the singer of the TC was hired after the edits were made.

It also reminds me of the DC of King Arthur. Antoine Fuqua stated he prefers the ending featured in the deleted scenes, but did not use the ending in his DC of said movie. Or how Ridley Scott restored the footage of implied lesbian romance from Alien only to choose at the 11th hour to exclude the footage when assembling his "director's cut" (I put that in quotes because he's gone back and forth with regards to it being merely a SE or a DC) for the Alien Quadrilogy set. Sometimes, weird stuff just happens.

However, I do vaguely recall Proyas stating he prefers Connelly singing because it adds to the feeling that she is simply doing what she was programmed to do, rather than her genuinely wanting to be a singer. But I don't recall if that was always his intent of merely how he felt after assembling the DC of Dark City.

[Homegrove]

Originally Posted by RocShemp

Or how Ridley Scott restored the footage of implied lesbian romance from Alien only to choose at the 11th hour to exclude the footage when assembling his "director's cut" (I put that in quotes because he's gone back and forth with regards to it being merely a SE or a DC) for the Alien Quadrilogy set.

The what now? I thought I knew pretty much everything about Alien, but this was news to me. Can you elaborate?

[RocShemp]

Originally Posted by Homegrove

The what now? I thought I knew pretty much everything about Alien, but this was news to me. Can you elaborate?

Basically, Ridley Scott felt "casual relationships" would develop during long deep space missions. And so he shot scenes that implied that Ripley and Lambert were in a lesbian relationship. It's extremely subtle however (a touch here and there that could easily be interpreted as merely comforting).

[Homegrove]

Ah ok. It also adds to the tension between them once things start to go to hell.

[albabe]

Originally Posted by lolwut

Whoever did this art and The Cell needs to be replaced!

I like a lot of Arrow Covers, but this one is boring mediocre pseudo-comic-style art.

[albabe]

Originally Posted by mar3o

I think I had heard him say the same thing unless we're both wrong about that.

I do think the theatrical version of her songs are more polished since it's not her singing, but I do like hearing her voice sing those songs in the DC, as it comes across as more authentic.

I think he said it was more in-line with the story because the Character is new to singing at that point and not very good. But I love the Theatrical version of the song.