Best Picture of 2008

[bruce_pullen]

I agree, but why the Dark Knight?

What's your reasoning?

[bruce_pullen]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

and i completely disagree with you. i think the writing's sharp and the acting is absolutely amazing. i didn't say a word about xzibit did i? besides, what's so bad about xzibit? the x-files had jesse ventura and alex trebek on one of their most critically claimed episodes and one that is regarded as a fan favorite. jesse ventura?!?!?! xzibit in my mind is better. i don't think xzibit was or is a shakespearean actor, but he wasn't that bad in the movie. i actually thought he was going to be awful, but he was actually not half bad. certainly better than dogget.

“Absolutely amazing”, you say. You mean the Lifetime channel?

Blah, blah, do I have the operation? Blah, blah, I don’t believe in the supernatural. Blah, blah, what about our son? Blah, blah, blah, I don’t do this anymore. Blah, blah, where’s Mulder?

“The writing’s sharp,” in what way? Sharp, as in the T.V. company? Certainly, not witty or sophisticated, this is workshop quality. Scully drives over to Mulder’s “secret location” to ask him, to come back. Then, we find, she’s been living there, the whole time. Ohhhhh…, great structure, thanks Chris.

And do we have to get, Mulder and Scully, repeating the same spiel, for the umpteenth time? “I believe.” “I don’t.” Something happens. Then: “I think I believe.” “I think I believe, too Mulder.” (Sighs).. If this is great writing, watch Casablanca, then get back to me.

In all honesty, was there any acting? I wanted to scream.

“AAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!” A raping of all things X-Files, the longer this went, the more my skin peeled. The domestic stuff killed me. It wasn’t acting. It was the Osbournes.

What can I say? It’s a disappointment. Where’s the beef? Talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, I mean really. I understand, talk is important, but, give me a break, the X-Files is more than that.

The visuals, the suspense, the empty spaces: the X-Files is atmosphere. Tooms, Shapeshifters, and bees, the mystery was thick, and the answers weren’t coming. Darkness was great, when left unexplained. The Malboro man, strange cars, big mysteries, that was mastery.

This: is dinner theater, bloated by a half-an-hour.

Billy Connoly, is the only highlight.

The opening scene works, because the leads weren’t in it. After that, the film goes downhill.

X-Files: I Want To Believe, film of the year? Maybe at the Razzies.

Note: The death of Amanda Peet, is so convenient. She asks them for help. She dies. Xzibit, becomes the villain (in the third act). Yeah!!!!, great writing.

Also: There's Skinner, in a trailer park. Is this the kitchen sink?

[Grimshaw23]

This fighthefutureofhd guy is as bias as they come. I mean, look at his screen name. Wow, What a surprise that he thinks The X-files deserves a best picture nod. When it comes down to it, X-files: I Want to Believe is a terrible movie. And It doesn't even feels like the X-files movie.

[bruce_pullen]

Originally Posted by Grimshaw23

This fighthefutureofhd guy is as bias as they come. I mean, look at his screen name. Wow, What a surpirse that he thinks The X-files deserves a best picture nod. When it comes to it, X-files: I Want to Believe is a terrible movie. It doesn't even feels like the X-files movie.

Agreed, the film feels like The Bachelor.

(Cue Announcer) "Watch as our couple, cuddles and talks. Next time: Will Dana do that operation? Will Fox rent a car, and drive towards more snow? Will Xzibit be nice? Find out on, 'One Fox To Live'.

..Now the first flick, that was a movie. This one, felt like Upstairs Downstairs. Where's the tea?

[bruce_pullen]

X-Files: I Want To Believe

And what was with that credit cookie, with them in the Caribbean?

To me, that was, the film in a nutshell.

Out to lunch, or in this case, out on vacation.

[Grimshaw23]

Originally Posted by bruce_pullen

X-Files: I Want To Believe

And what was with that credit cookie, with them in the Caribbean?

To me, that was, the film in a nutshell.

Out to lunch, or in this case, out on vacation.

Can't say that I disagree with you there. The movie was like "just another day at the park". Little effort and thoughts was given to it. No heart or soul. Almost like a fanservice given to the hardcore X-files fan for all these years of waiting.

[bruce_pullen]

Originally Posted by Grimshaw23

Can't say that I disagree with you there. The movie was like "just another day at the park". Little effort and thoughts was given to it. No heart or soul. Almost like a fanservice given to the hardcore X-files fan for all these years of waiting.

Yes, it was an info-mercial for X-Files fans. Yet, being one myself, I wasn't impressed. Were you?

[Grimshaw23]

Originally Posted by bruce_pullen

Yes, it was an info-mercial for X-Files fans. Yet, being one myself, I wasn't impressed. Were you?

I wasn't because honestly, I'm only a casual fan of the X-files. I like watching the X-files TV show from time to time, but was never a big fan of it. However, I do know what a well-made movie looks like and the X-files:IWTB was not it.

[bruce_pullen]

Originally Posted by bruce_pullen

Yes, it was an info-mercial for X-Files fans. Yet, being one myself, I wasn't impressed. Were you?

For years, fans wanted them together. This was nothing more, than the bland after-math.

It was like an endless out-take reel. I wander, if the whole film was canned.

It feels like it.

[spolcyc]

X File: IWTB would have been a great 2 part story arc during the shows run. Fans wanted a mythology movie, something that could give us closure after the series finale. IWTB is still a very good movie for what it was, as an X Files fan I was just happy to see Mulder and Scully back in action. The film would have been better with Robert Patrick and Annabeth Gish characters instead of Amanda Peet and Xzibit. If they do another film, I think Chris Carter now knows what the fans are demanding.

[bruce_pullen]

Originally Posted by spolcyc

X File: IWTB would have been a great 2 part story arc during the shows run. Fans wanted a mythology movie, something that could give us closure after the series finale. IWTB is still a very good movie for what it was, as an X Files fan I was just happy to see Mulder and Scully back in action. The film would have been better with Robert Patrick and Annabeth Gish characters instead of Amanda Peet and Xzibit. If they do another film, I think Chris Carter now knows what the fans are demanding.

At 41 minutes, maybe passable. At 104 minutes, it's excessive.

As an episode (or episodes), it would be a different animal.

"A very good movie for what it was," what was it? You’re giving it credit, it doesn’t deserve. Amanda Peet falling down an elevator shaft, Skinner in the last reel, how’s this closure?

Fox and Dana, go through the same conversation, about questions, they always have. And the writing, hasn’t adapted to the times.

The film squeaks by one-viewing. Anymore, and the seams show.

Also: that George Bush joke was silly. (Cue Mark Snow)

Note: After this, the only thing fans will demand: is no more films. Period.

[spolcyc]

Originally Posted by bruce_pullen

At 41 minutes, maybe passable. At 104 minutes, it's excessive.

As an episode (or episodes), it would be a different animal.

"A very good movie for what it was," what was it? You’re giving it credit, it doesn’t deserve. Amanda Peet falling down an elevator shaft, Skinner in the last reel, how’s this closure?

Fox and Dana, go through the same conversation, about questions, they always have. And the writing, hasn’t adapted to the times.

The film squeaks by one-viewing. Anymore, and the seams show.

Also: that George Bush joke was dumb. (Cue Mark Snow)

Read my post again, I didn't say the film was closure, I said that fans were wanting closure after the series finale with a mythology movie, not with this one.

If you didn't like it or thought it was boring, thats fine I have made the same comment about other movies that people love. But as an X File fan I was happy with the movie, I was expecting something more but was not disappointed with the film at all. The X Files is one of my favorite shows of all time and I was happy to see it again and hope there are more movies in the future.

[bruce_pullen]

X-Files: Fight the Future

"something that could give us closure after the series finale."

So are you saying it didn't live up to that need, but it's still an okay film?

I'm confused, a little.

What I'm saying is, the film will age badly. It has no legs, past one viewing. After that, watch Fight the Future again.

You'll feel better.

Sorry I misread you.

[kpkelley]

Hey Bruce Pullit,

Stop trying to hijack this thread. Feel free to start your own debates in other threads of your own creation.

As for movies becoming purely "entertainment," I couldn't disagree with anyone more. If films were purely entertaining we would missing out on some of the greatest films of all time and instead be fed a constant drivel of mindless sensationalism, kinda like pop music. I appreciate a film like Wall-E because it takes its artform seriously and realizes that it can be a vehicle for change and a place where ideas can be expressed.

[bruce_pullen]

Originally Posted by kpkelley

Hey Bruce Pullit,

Stop trying to hijack this thread. Feel free to start your own debates in other threads of your own creation.

As for movies becoming purely "entertainment," I couldn't disagree with anyone more. If films were purely entertaining we would missing out on some of the greatest films of all time and instead be fed a constant drivel of mindless sensationalism, kinda like pop music. I appreciate a film like Wall-E because it takes its artform seriously and realizes that it can be a vehicle for change and a place where ideas can be expressed.

"a vehicle for change and a place where ideas can be expressed." In a children's film, in a kid's film? What kind of change?

What is change?

Give me the Webster's definition:

What is change, according to Wall*E?

The color green, humans as big fat blobs, and Fred Willard pulling a Bush, that kind of change?

Is Wall*E's appeal emotional, rather than thought? That was my question.

As for hijacking: I am responding to other posts, that relate to this topic.

Do you think X-Files 2? Is a best film of 2008? That was my response.

Also: I don't think Wall*E should be embraced as "gospel" without analysis, don't you?

Or is Wall*E, the next Jim Jones?

Note: Next time: get your facts straight. But thanks for the advice.

I thought, you could respond to these topics.

You telling me I can't.

[spolcyc]

Originally Posted by bruce_pullen

X-Files: Fight the Future

"something that could give us closure after the series finale."

So are you saying it didn't live up to that need, but it's still an okay film?

I'm confused, a little.

What I'm saying is, the film will age badly. It has no legs, past one viewing. After that, watch Fight the Future again.

You'll feel better.

Sorry I misread you.

I love Fight The Future. I was hoping IWTB would follow along with the mythology. FTF was a mythology movie and that is why it had success at the box office.

The only thing I can think of is that IWTB was to get people who did or did not watch the show reintroduced to the characters. Chris Carter said after the show ended that he wanted to continue with movies. It has been 6 years since the series finale and some fans and the general population have forgotten about the X Files. If more movies are made, I think they will delve more into the mythology of the show.

[bruce_pullen]

Originally Posted by spolcyc

I love Fight The Future. I was hoping IWTB would follow along with the mythology. FTF was a mythology movie and that is why it had success at the box office.

The only thing I can think of is that IWTB was to get people who did or did not watch the show reintroduced to the characters. Chris Carter said after the show ended that he wanted to continue with movies. It has been 6 years since the series finale and some fans and the general population have forgotten about the X Files. If more movies are made, I think they will delve more into the mythology of the show.

I hope, if any more are made, they are clearer and more precise. Don't you?

[spolcyc]

Outside of The Dark Knight and other comic book movies, one of the best movies(not the best) of 2008 that has been forgotten is Rambo. The gore was a little over the top, but the story was very good and even the acting was good.

[spolcyc]

Originally Posted by bruce_pullen

I hope, if any more are made, they are clearer and more precise. Don't you?

Yes.

IWTB will be considered similar to The Phantom Menace. Not in box office numbers of cult following, but as a setup to bigger and better movies.

[kpkelley]

Originally Posted by bruce_pullen

I thought, you could respond to these topics.

You telling me I can't.

Responding is one thing, but deviating the thread from it's intended purpose is another.

Originally Posted by steve_99101

if it was up to you which 5 movies would you nominate for Best Picture (Academy Award not PQ) and which 1 would win, just curious what people think since it's getting close, please be realistic

Allow them to post their opinions as the op wished.