George Lucas- Hack or no? - Page 4 - Blu-ray Forum

Sussudio · 01-28-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Halcro 1

I liked American Graffitti ..... His best movie .. I dont like Star Wars ....And he knows nothing about audio THX is very overrated

no offense whatsoever, but it sounds like you know nothing about audio. just because you may think THX is overrated doesn't mean it hasn't done wonders for theaters. do some research on it and actually read up on why and how much it is used

Halcro 1 · 01-28-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Sussudio

no offense whatsoever, but it sounds like you know nothing about audio. just because you may think THX is overrated doesn't mean it hasn't done wonders for theaters. do some research on it and you'll find out how much it is used

I do live sound for major performers ... Of which most have heard ..... SDDS Is better in the theaters ... And I have an Audio system that would make you cry.....THX reccommends my to cross my sub @ 80 Hz who in their right mind would want to have a sub play 80 HZ bass ??? My mains play flat to 40 HZ .. 80Hz to a sub = muddy bass

Sussudio · 01-28-2009, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Halcro 1

I do live sound for major performers ... Of which most have heard ..... SDDS Is better in the theaters ... And I have an Audio system that would make you cry.....THX reccommends my to cross my sub @ 80 Hz who in their right mind would want to have a sub play 80 HZ bass ??? My mains play flat to 40 HZ .. 80Hz to a sub = muddy bass

i took a look at your theater, very nice indeed

what i say is just based on my own experiences and i used to work at a movie theater where thx was used a lot and i tried to learn a lot about the theater technologies in my spare time. but, there isn't an end-all-be-all answer. your opinion comes from your experiences and mine from mine

uziel5000 · 01-28-2009, 03:54 PM

Well... just because you don't like THX doesn't mean the man doesn't deserve recognition. When I brought the subject of THX it was to point out his contribution which beyond the quality of THX, helped the industry focus more on the issue of sound in movies. Many more technologies have come out since THX and I'm sure some are better and some might be fantastic compared to THX but he certainly paved the way. Of course he is not the ONLY person responsible for THX. In fact I doubt he had much to do with it from a scientific/research standpoint. But it was his vision that brought it to life.

That I think sums up his legacy. It has always been about doing the most with what you have. Both SW Trilogies have that in common. He made both with the tools he had at the moment and pushed those tools to the edge. Other filmakers, some probably better than him have taken those tools and made magnificent things we all enjoy. But again, he paved the way. Which is why I insist that beyond what you might think of him as a filmaker (and arguments on both sides are equally strong) I do not think he is a hack.

Sussudio · 01-28-2009, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by uziel5000

Well... just because you don't like THX doesn't mean the man doesn't deserve recognition. When I brought the subject of THX it was to point out his contribution which beyond the quality of THX, helped the industry focus more on the issue of sound in movies. Many more technologies have come out since THX and I'm sure some are better and some might be fantastic compared to THX but he certainly paved the way. Of course he is not the ONLY person responsible for THX. In fact I doubt he had much to do with it from a scientific/research standpoint. But it was his vision that brought it to life.

That I think sums up his legacy. It has always been about doing the most with what you have. Both SW Trilogies have that in common. He made both with the tools he had at the moment and pushed those tools to the edge. Other filmakers, some probably better than him have taken those tools and made magnificent things we all enjoy. But again, he paved the way. Which is why I insist that beyond what you might think of him as a filmaker (and arguments on both sides are equally strong) I do not think he is a hack.

great summary

JamesKurtovich · 01-28-2009, 04:10 PM

I wouldn't call Lucas a hack.. he's a very prominent figure in filmmaking and in his early years was very dedicated to his work and had many fresh ideas. Not sure what happened to the SW films though.

I just found this image on Wikipedia and thought it was funny. It's like George is acknowledging criticism of the "Original new Star Wars".

Nevermind. It's too big. Look at George Lucas's page on wikipedia.

sjy1969 · 01-28-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu Man

Like what? Everything I said in that statement is true.

From a certain point of view..

Sussudio · 01-28-2009, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sjy1969

From a certain point of view..

was that supposed to have a double meaning

if so, perfectly used quote!

SellmeyourDVD · 01-28-2009, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Crim122

I give this thread 5 stars

+1

sjy1969 · 01-28-2009, 04:20 PM

Glad you appreciated it!

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Originally Posted by Sussudio

was that supposed to have a double meaning

if so, perfectly used quote!

Variable · 01-28-2009, 10:44 PM

I wouldn't call him a hack because I don't suddenly forget the OT, but I honestly find the prequels to be absolutely awful. and I tried HARD to like them all. I even used to think I liked Ep III but I watched it again and it's just not good.

Diesel · 02-08-2009, 04:07 AM

i dont understand y everyone thinks george lucas created star wars

Christian Bale did

didnt u see reign of fire?
lol

(Fe)Man · 02-08-2009, 04:28 AM

I can't say he is. I don't really care for anything he's ever done, but I can't deny what he's done for the entertainment biz. He's made a lot of very intelligent decisions and some not so intelligent ones, but so do most if not all directors/writers/producers.

I respect him for what he's done. I just don't agree with some of his later decisions.

jadedeath · 02-08-2009, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Variable

I wouldn't call him a hack because I don't suddenly forget the OT, but I honestly find the prequels to be absolutely awful. and I tried HARD to like them all. I even used to think I liked Ep III but I watched it again and it's just not good.

Therein lies the problem with most people I find.

If you go into a movie, the best way to go into it is thinking that it's going to suck big donkey balls.

That way, you'll always be at least pleasantly surprised {unless it's a Uwe Boll movie, in which case you're just opening yourself up to more disappointment}

Logan

Ex Accountant · 02-08-2009, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Blu-Runner

Hack. I think Star Wars Episodes 4 and 5 were total flukes.

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Originally Posted by tilapiah6

+ 1

Two of the worst films ever made.

You think Star Wars and The Empire Strikes Back are two of the worst films ever made? Dem's fightin words, boys!

ShelbyGT500 · 02-08-2009, 04:57 AM

Luca$$.....nough said.

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01-28-2009, 03:54 PM	#64
uziel5000 Expert Member Member since:Jan 2009 Location:Vega Alta, Puerto Rico Blu-ray collection:103	Well... just because you don't like THX doesn't mean the man doesn't deserve recognition. When I brought the subject of THX it was to point out his contribution which beyond the quality of THX, helped the industry focus more on the issue of sound in movies. Many more technologies have come out since THX and I'm sure some are better and some might be fantastic compared to THX but he certainly paved the way. Of course he is not the ONLY person responsible for THX. In fact I doubt he had much to do with it from a scientific/research standpoint. But it was his vision that brought it to life. That I think sums up his legacy. It has always been about doing the most with what you have. Both SW Trilogies have that in common. He made both with the tools he had at the moment and pushed those tools to the edge. Other filmakers, some probably better than him have taken those tools and made magnificent things we all enjoy. But again, he paved the way. Which is why I insist that beyond what you might think of him as a filmaker (and arguments on both sides are equally strong) I do not think he is a hack.

01-28-2009, 04:10 PM	#66
JamesKurtovich Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Alaska Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:229 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:2	I wouldn't call Lucas a hack.. he's a very prominent figure in filmmaking and in his early years was very dedicated to his work and had many fresh ideas. Not sure what happened to the SW films though. I just found this image on Wikipedia and thought it was funny. It's like George is acknowledging criticism of the "Original new Star Wars". Nevermind. It's too big. Look at George Lucas's page on wikipedia.

01-28-2009, 10:44 PM	#71
Variable Special Member Member since:Mar 2008 Location:Northern New Jersey Blu-ray collection:12	I wouldn't call him a hack because I don't suddenly forget the OT, but I honestly find the prequels to be absolutely awful. and I tried HARD to like them all. I even used to think I liked Ep III but I watched it again and it's just not good.

02-08-2009, 04:07 AM	#72
Diesel Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 31 Trading Score:10	i dont understand y everyone thinks george lucas created star wars Christian Bale did didnt u see reign of fire? lol

02-08-2009, 04:28 AM	#73
(Fe)Man Senior Member Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:42 Blu-ray collection:627 DVD collection:111	I can't say he is. I don't really care for anything he's ever done, but I can't deny what he's done for the entertainment biz. He's made a lot of very intelligent decisions and some not so intelligent ones, but so do most if not all directors/writers/producers. I respect him for what he's done. I just don't agree with some of his later decisions.

02-08-2009, 04:57 AM	#76
ShelbyGT500 Senior Member Member since:Jul 2008 Location:Bellevue, WA Home Theater Gallery:7 Blu-ray collection:75 Blu-ray reviews:7	Luca$$.....nough said.

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