British Film Institute (BFI) Discussion Thread - Page 41 - Blu-ray Forum

ravenus · 06-19-2012, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jmo78

The first four DVD volumes of BBC Ghost Stories are now available to pre-order. The fifth and final disc will be released in October, as will a complete box-set. I know what I'm asking for this Christmas!
http://www.find-dvd.co.uk/search.asp...st+stories+vol

Oh man, I love adaptations of classic ghost stories. This sounds like it could be terrific

James78 · 06-19-2012, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ravenus

Oh man, I love adaptations of classic ghost stories. This sounds like it could be terrific

I'm excited too, ravenus! I've decided to wait and hope for a Blu-ray release, but I've put them on my rental list so I can have a look at the picture quality.

rock, stone · 06-19-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jmo78

I wasn't making a point to anyone in particular, Yami. I was just balancing out the fact that despite the loss of some programmes, the BBC have a lot for us to enjoy. I'm sure we'll have lots of good BFI releases because of this!

One does not excuse the other. It isn't like the artists and artisans who actually made any of the programs are the ones who junked them. It is the case of decades long bureaucratic idiocy destroying hundreds, if not thousands of hours of Britain's cultural legacy.

Yami · 06-19-2012, 04:27 PM

The BFI have previously said that "Blu-ray plans for the Ghost Stories will be entirely dependent on the availability of HD masters" and, as these are being released on DVD, I really doubt there will be a Blu-Ray release in the foreseeable future. When was the last time the BFI decided to withhold a Blu-Ray to make people double dip?

James78 · 06-19-2012, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rock, stone

One does not excuse the other. It isn't like the artists and artisans who actually made any of the programs are the ones who junked them. It is the case of decades long bureaucratic idiocy destroying hundreds, if not thousands of hours of Britain's cultural legacy.

I suppose the best way to look at it is there's no use crying over spilt milk. We may as well focus on what we have, rather than what we don't. We can only enjoy what the BFI releases from the archive, not what doesn't exist anymore.

James78 · 06-19-2012, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Yami

The BFI have previously said that "Blu-ray plans for the Ghost Stories will be entirely dependent on the availability of HD masters" and, as these are being released on DVD, I really doubt there will be a Blu-Ray release in the foreseeable future. When was the last time the BFI decided to withhold a Blu-Ray to make people double dip?

This suggests that they haven't checked? Why would they release something without checking if HD masters were available? It's all very peculiar, isn't it?

MacEachaidh · 06-19-2012, 04:35 PM

Or are they hoping to obtain masters from a source other than the BBC, perhaps?

James78 · 06-19-2012, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

Or are they hoping to obtain masters from a source other than the BBC, perhaps?

I don't know. BFI releases often have booklets which provide information about the transfer, so we'll know when the first DVD is released.

Yami · 06-19-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by jmo78

This suggests that they haven't checked? Why would they release something without checking if HD masters were available? It's all very peculiar, isn't it?

My interpretation is that the ones which have available HD masters will be released on Blu-Ray.

Opdef · 06-19-2012, 05:16 PM

Weren't they only filmed on 16mm? If so there's very little point in giving them the Blu-ray upgrade.

James78 · 06-19-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Opdef

Weren't they only filmed on 16mm? If so there's very little point in giving them the Blu-ray upgrade.

I do see what you mean, but have you seen the recent Poirot Blu-rays? They are astonishingly good:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Poiro...2/#Screenshots

BarnDoor · 06-19-2012, 05:34 PM

Well I would hope BFI would check and clarify the issue prior to releasing the Ghost Stories on DVD. I don't want to be buying them only to learn that Blu-rays will come next year.

Opdef · 06-19-2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jmo78

I do see what you mean, but have you seen the recent Poirot Blu-rays? They are astonishingly good:

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Poiro...2/#Screenshots

Very interesting, hadn't seen that before. Just goes to show the potential if they take the time to do a proper transfer. I'd got excited about the Brideshead Revisited Blu-ray release in the US, but it looks no different to the DVD. If it were given a decent transfer I think it could look amazing.

Yami · 06-19-2012, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Opdef

Weren't they only filmed on 16mm? If so there's very little point in giving them the Blu-ray upgrade.

16mm has several times as much resolution to be fit for Blu-Ray!

Opdef · 06-19-2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Yami

16mm has several times as much resolution to be fit for Blu-Ray!

Not considerably more. 16mm is closer to 2K (which is marginally more than 1080p), whereas 35mm is virtually 4K. There's not enough difference to be noticeable, hence my understanding why there's a reluctance from many distributors to release 16mm on Blu-ray (I know for a fact the BFI will only release 16mm on DVD - see Gazwrx for a good example).

NoirFan · 06-19-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Opdef

(I know for a fact the BFI will only release 16mm on DVD - see Gazwrx for a good example).

All 16mm films BFI have released on Blu-ray:

Faces
Shadows
Nightbirds
Anti-Clock

I'm sure there are others.

Opdef · 06-19-2012, 08:39 PM

Haha fair one - should have checked my facts there (especially as I own a couple of them)!

Buffalo66 · 06-19-2012, 09:09 PM

If 16 mm is close to 2K isn't it then very reasonable to transfer it to BD?

Opdef · 06-19-2012, 09:28 PM

Yeah it is - got a bit confused there. My point was more to say that Blu-ray is closer to the same resolution as 16mm, not several times as was previously stated.

rock, stone · 06-20-2012, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by jmo78

I suppose the best way to look at it is there's no use crying over spilt milk. We may as well focus on what we have, rather than what we don't. We can only enjoy what the BFI releases from the archive, not what doesn't exist anymore.

I disagree. This discussion started because you said

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Originally Posted by jmo78

The BBC Television Archive has kept almost everything since the 1950's, so the negatives are almost definitely available. The films were shot on 16mm, so I see no reason why they shouldn't be released in HD.

which is simply misinformation.

Don't forget, the BBC takes a license fee from just about every household in the UK.

[Show spoiler]

It is a government agency. Destroying its own library was like a food bank throwing away all its canned food because produce goes bad after a couple weeks.

No one is crying over spilled milk. They are saying that was absurdly stupid and destructive. There is a difference.

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06-19-2012, 04:27 PM	#804
Yami Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 4K collection:158 Blu-ray collection:1830 DVD collection:32	The BFI have previously said that "Blu-ray plans for the Ghost Stories will be entirely dependent on the availability of HD masters" and, as these are being released on DVD, I really doubt there will be a Blu-Ray release in the foreseeable future. When was the last time the BFI decided to withhold a Blu-Ray to make people double dip?

06-19-2012, 04:35 PM	#807
MacEachaidh Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2011 Location:Edge of the Accretion Disc Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Trading Score:4	Or are they hoping to obtain masters from a source other than the BBC, perhaps?

06-19-2012, 05:16 PM	#810
Opdef Senior Member Member since:Jul 2010 Location:Shropshire, England Blu-ray collection:659	Weren't they only filmed on 16mm? If so there's very little point in giving them the Blu-ray upgrade.

06-19-2012, 05:34 PM	#812
BarnDoor Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Jan 2010 4K collection:337 Blu-ray collection:6005 Trading Score:3	Well I would hope BFI would check and clarify the issue prior to releasing the Ghost Stories on DVD. I don't want to be buying them only to learn that Blu-rays will come next year.

06-19-2012, 08:39 PM	#817
Opdef Senior Member Member since:Jul 2010 Location:Shropshire, England Blu-ray collection:659	Haha fair one - should have checked my facts there (especially as I own a couple of them)!

06-19-2012, 09:09 PM	#818
Buffalo66 Active Member Member since:Aug 2010 Location:Sweden Blu-ray collection:360	If 16 mm is close to 2K isn't it then very reasonable to transfer it to BD?

06-19-2012, 09:28 PM	#819
Opdef Senior Member Member since:Jul 2010 Location:Shropshire, England Blu-ray collection:659	Yeah it is - got a bit confused there. My point was more to say that Blu-ray is closer to the same resolution as 16mm, not several times as was previously stated.

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