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View Poll Results: Which school will win the CFP National Championship game?
#1 LSU Tigers 12 66.67%
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:04 PM   #8341
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how does a guy in California become a Penn State (football) and Indiana (basketball) fan? are you from the east coast, or is there a story behind these two being your teams?
Actually I was born in Indiana although that isnt why I like the Hoosiers. There are certain childhood reasons why I like the teams I do. Remember that old saying...."You dont choose your teams, your teams choose you" that should explain it. Nuthin to do with geographical reasons. Got Em!!

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There are a lot of rumblings that O'Brien is looking to the NFL. If he does indeed leave Penn State, they are going to lose Hackenberg and Breneman out of their upcoming recruiting class. That would be a huge loss as both are looking to be future studs in college football.
Just losing O'Brien would be a tough loss alone. I am hoping he will do what Crean did for Indiana and stay around rebuild us back into a powerhouse. Guess well see. Got Em!!

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And Bulls, and Cowboys... CZAR does Zagat food reviews for navigation systems so he's well traveled
And I do articles for Trading Spaces lol. Got Em!!
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:07 PM   #8342
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Confirmed: Stoops to Kentucky

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...ball/21161968/
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:12 PM   #8343
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That whole conference was laughably bad this season, and now capped off by Miami's self-imposed ban. For the sake of ticket sales, at least the rivalry would have provided a little spark.
Yes. FSU and Clemson were truly terrible.
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Old 11-27-2012, 07:31 PM   #8344
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And I do articles for Trading Spaces lol. Got Em!!
I forgot hows that going, I heard you landed a big interview next month with Paula Dean!
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:02 PM   #8345
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Bad move for him. He'll be looking for a job in two years. If Jimbo stays maybe we can get Gene Chizik For our defensive coordinator.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:19 PM   #8346
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I think Stoops could succeed at Kentucky. It's a basketball school and they don't expect too much from their football team. Kentucky fans are content with 7 wins and a bowl game each year and Rich Brooks was able to do that in his final 4 seasons before retiring. I expect Kentucky to have another 1-2 down years but once Stoops gets his recruits in there I don't see why they couldn't win 7 games, especially considering Kentucky's out of conference schedule usually isn't terribly hard with Louisville, Western Kentucky, an FCS team, and a MAC team.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:44 PM   #8347
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Glad to see FSU distracted this week
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:53 PM   #8348
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Glad to see FSU distracted this week
Tell me about, worst timing ever. He's taking interviews in stead of getting ready for that triple option.
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Old 11-27-2012, 08:56 PM   #8349
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Tell me about, worst timing ever. He's taking interviews in stead of getting ready for that triple option.
Maybe we really will get the worst ratings in history... Georgia Tech vs Kent State in the Orange Bowl. That stadium will be EMPTY.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:17 PM   #8350
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Maybe we really will get the worst ratings in history... Georgia Tech vs Kent State in the Orange Bowl. That stadium will be EMPTY.
Yeah that would be the worst BCS game in history of the BCS. No better then if we had to play Kent State or who ever come's out of the Big East. It's all ready bad we went 0-4 against the SEC last week. Now everybody is going to make fun of our opponent in the BCS game.
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:19 PM   #8351
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Just losing O'Brien would be a tough loss alone. I am hoping he will do what Crean did for Indiana and stay around rebuild us back into a powerhouse. Guess well see. Got Em!!
A week or two ago, he was asked point blank by a reporter if he was interested in leaving Penn State, and he avoided the question. If a job he covets is offered, he is long gone. Regardless, the job he did at Penn State this season was truly remarkable.



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If Jimbo stays maybe we can get Gene Chizik For our defensive coordinator.
The problem is Chizik's buyout at Auburn is worth way more than any job offer he will get as an assistant. I'm not sure how buyouts work if you get another job. Maybe the annual salary at the new job is taken out of the buyout?
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Old 11-27-2012, 09:34 PM   #8352
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The problem is Chizik's buyout at Auburn is worth way more than any job offer he will get as an assistant. I'm not sure how buyouts work if you get another job. Maybe the annual salary at the new job is taken out of the buyout?
Chizik's buyout would be reduced by any future income he earns while coaching, broadcasting, publishing media or any other type of football-related employment between now and Dec. 31, 2015. In essence, if he takes any job over the next 3 years he'll essentially be working for free because it will just lower the amount Auburn has to pay him.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:09 PM   #8353
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For quite a few years I bought into the conventional wisdom with regard to the USC case. But after I actually sat down and really looked into the details of that case I was shocked at how badly USC got jobbed. They went after USC hard for an incredible amount of time, basically had nothing on them and still hammered them with some serious punishment. I'm glad the truth is finally coming out. Too bad Paul Dee isn't still alive to answer for a lot of this.
And the drumbeat is growing louder...

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefoot...nt-in-usc-case

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Documents appear to show improper NCAA involvement in USC case

By Dennis Dodd | Senior College Football Columnist

November 27, 2012 3:23 pm ET

Documents that the NCAA is aggressively trying to keep under seal appear to show improper involvement by NCAA staff and committee members in the landmark USC decision more than two years ago.

A judge's decision made public last week -- and obtained in full by CBSSports.com -- shows that at least three persons may have improperly tried to influence the NCAA's powerful infractions committee to find former USC assistant Todd McNair complicit in the Reggie Bush case. Lawyers for McNair are trying to show the association violated its own rules and procedures in investigating their client.

Two non-voting members of the NCAA infractions committee and NCAA staffer allegedly tried to influence voting members inside the 10-person committee. The judge's decision contains excerpts of emails that he has determined show "ill will or hatred" toward McNair.

McNair is suing the NCAA for an undisclosed amount for defamation of character citing irreparable damage to his career. The information was disclosed after a motion by NCAA lawyers to dismiss the case was denied.

Information in Judge Frederick Shaller's decision reveal in detail the apparent lengths the NCAA went to cast McNair -- as one NCAA staffer put it -- as "a lying morally bankrupt criminal, in my view, and a hypocrite of the highest order."

The duties of that staffer, believed to be infractions committee liaison Shep Cooper, are basically administrative -- to assist the committee on infractions on their needs and gathering information. Cooper is a former NCAA enforcement rep.

Shaller said that evidence provided by McNair's attorneys show the NCAA had a "reckless disregard for the truth." Emails between Cooper and committee members Rodney Uphoff, a Missouri law professor, and Roscoe Howard, a former U.S. attorney, were circulated "covertly" in violation of NCAA rules according to the document.

Shallers' decision uses only last names "Cooper," "Uphoff" and "Howard" but the document identifies by their NCAA duties and titles relevant to the case.

The document also refers to a four-page email Howard wrote to infractions committee members trying to persuade them that McNair lied numerous times. The entire email is not included in last week's decision but is summarized by Howard saying, "I hope none of you was insulted by this rant … USC's approach to this case I have found very troubling and downright insulting."

Shaller, a USC grad, already has concluded McNair has proven "actual malice" on the NCAA's part in the lawsuit. McNair contends that false information produced and gathered by the NCAA was central to his appeal that was denied by the association in 2011. He sued the NCAA later that year.

In finding McNair and USC guilty of rules violations, the NCAA used a phone call between the coach and would-be marketer Lloyd Lake, a convicted felon, as evidence. The NCAA concluded that Lake's description of the call was credible and rejected McNair's version. An NCAA investigator got the year of the call wrong (2005, instead of 2006) while interviewing McNair.

The NCAA admitted it had telephone records showing that Lake initiated the call, contrary to his testimony to the association. Lake told the NCAA McNair had called him in early hours of Jan. 8, 2006. That conclusion according to Shaller's decision "could reasonably cast doubt on the occurrence of the … conversation." The NCAA "should have known" parts of the infractions report regarding that call were "demonstrably untrue."

Largely on the basis of that call and Lake's testimony, McNair was found to guilty of unethical conduct by the NCAA. Shaller's decision says McNair's attorneys had proven the NCAA infractions report on USC "contained material false statements regarding" the phone call.

An email from infractions committee member, Eleanor Myers, admits to a "botched" interview with McNair according to Shaller's decision.

On the basis of those issues Shaller said last week he would unseal the entire McNair inquiry waiting 30 days to give the NCAA time to file an appeal. The public's access to the file could reveal the inner workings of one of the most contentious cases in NCAA history. Bush was found to taken benefits and cash from two would-be marketing agents. The school was hit with a two-year bowl ban and the loss of 30 scholarships over three seasons. That particularly penalty has two years to run.

McNair was given a one-year show cause order by the NCAA which his lawsuit contends damaged his reputation such that he hasn't been able to find work in his chosen field. McNair, a former NFL player, was a Trojans assistant from 2004-2009.

The lawsuit was filed in Los Angeles. The fact that Shaller's undergrad degree is from USC is not necessarily considered a conflict in legal circles. Shaller would have to have a personal interest in the outcome of the case.

The NCAA infractions committee hears testimony from enforcement officials and the accused before assigning penalties in infractions cases. The enforcement and infractions process was streamlined last month by the NCAA.
The NCAA has caused great damage to USC already due to the already-served 2-year bowl ban and the loss of 10 scholarships to this point. It needs to immediately suspend all remaining sanctions (the 20 scholarships left to be forfeited) until this is straightened out.

Absolutely disgusting.

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Old 11-27-2012, 10:12 PM   #8354
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Yeah we might be losing Jimbo Fisher to. He is high on TN list of coach's right now. As an FSU fan this very bad new's, it look's like we will be back in that rebuilding stage. I'm pretty sure Jimbo will take the job if offered.
Seriously? As high as I am about SEC football I still don't regard Tennessee as a better job than FSU.
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Old 11-27-2012, 10:25 PM   #8355
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Seriously? As high as I am about SEC football I still don't regard Tennessee as a better job than FSU.
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. Also Jimbo is an SEC guy so maybe that's were he would like to be. It also don't help that his agent is a Tennessee grad so you know were he will tell him to go.
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Actually I was born in Indiana although that isnt why I like the Hoosiers. There are certain childhood reasons why I like the teams I do. Remember that old saying...."You dont choose your teams, your teams choose you" that should explain it. Nuthin to do with geographical reasons. Got Em!!
hey, i get it. born and raised in Wisconsin, but my teams are the Oregon Ducks, Seattle Seahawks, Portland Trailblazers, and Seattle Mariners (i.e. Pacific Northwest ) i have no affection or love for teams from my state.
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that was the longest two and a half minutes of my life!!!
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Maybe we really will get the worst ratings in history... Georgia Tech vs Kent State in the Orange Bowl. That stadium will be EMPTY.
isn't the current worst Connecticut vs Oklahoma from last year? eesh, that match up and game were horrid.
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