The Dark Knight Rises (2012)

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by shealer

Come on folks, this isn't the Avengers thread.

It's not? I thought Batman was part of the Avengers? He's a superhero!

[Kaiju]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Yeah, I wasn't. What you described fits Whedon to a T.

In terms of framing and composition from the Avengers, Whedon needs to go back to school. Seriously.

Anyone who has seen Inception, Memento, and especially the Prestige and says Nolan's not a great visual storyteller is completely off their rocker.

His and Wally's Batman work is just as great, with Rises being their crowing visual achievement of the trilogy.

Oh no. It appears we have a Nolanite on our hands here, guys.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by srinivas1015

Not to mention Dollhouse and Cabin in the Woods. A couple of these guys (especially Michael Bay) can make the most mundane environments look beautiful with lighting,color grading and the usage of shadows.

Don't insult Michael Bay by comparing him to Whedon. He may not be great with story or character but Bay is a visual auteur of the highest order.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Yeah, I wasn't. What you described fits Whedon to a T.

In terms of framing and composition from the Avengers, Whedon needs to go back to school. Seriously.

Anyone who has seen Inception, Memento, and especially the Prestige and says Nolan's not a great visual storyteller is completely off their rocker.

His and Wally's Batman work is just as great, with Rises being their crowing visual achievement of the trilogy.

uhhh, really?? Insomnia was pure GARBAGE, visuals were OOOOOOKKKKKKKKK, but nothing great. Prestige... visual were amazing I will agree.

DKR....worst of the trilogy.. and I disliked TDK a lot. (great crime drama, but a shite batman movie)

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by TheMan

Oh no. It appears we have a Nolanite on our hands here, guys.

Dude, whatever. It doesn't take a genius to know which guy is better behind the camera if you look at their work. This isn't hard.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Don't insult Michael Bay by comparing him to Whedon. He may not be great with story or character but Bay is a visual auteur of the highest order.

Bay is an ADD crack ***** when it comes to editing. man is a complete FAILURE at visuals. pretty much he pops in a crap load of CGI and a camera man who's drunk off his @ss and calls it a day.

[Kaiju]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Dude, whatever. It doesn't take a genius to know which guy is better behind the camera if you look at their work. This isn't hard.

Only joking, man. I respect both of them to be honest. I think they're both very talented and creative artists.

[BluProofie]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Yeah, I wasn't. What you described fits Whedon to a T.

In terms of framing and composition from the Avengers, Whedon needs to go back to school. Seriously.

Anyone who has seen Inception, Memento, and especially the Prestige and says Nolan's not a great visual storyteller is completely off their rocker.

His and Wally's Batman work is just as great, with Rises being their crowing visual achievement of the trilogy.

Firstly, you haven't seen Joss direct anything else, so your opinion on his visual style means nothing. Second, Nolan's visuals are bland and practically devoid of color. Third, Nolan is the most overrated writer working in Hollywood today. His dialogue can be quite bad and pretentious.

[srinivas1015]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Yeah, I wasn't. What you described fits Whedon to a T.

In terms of framing and composition from the Avengers, Whedon needs to go back to school. Seriously.

Anyone who has seen Inception, Memento, and especially the Prestige and says Nolan's not a great visual storyteller is completely off their rocker.

His and Wally's Batman work is just as great, with Rises being their crowing visual achievement of the trilogy.

The composition works brilliantly in 3D. It's not 'dead space', that's how the composition is supposed to be to gauge the dimensionality.
The Batman trilogy is great and I admit that but I don't understand the blind Nolan worship.
I like Whedon,Nolan,Bay,Cameron,etc. What's the point of dissing other directors with false accusations?

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

I think I picked the wrong time to stumble into this thread.

[rickah88]

Oh boy, this thread will now hit 1000 posts in about 14 minutes!

Whedon vs. Nolan
Avengers vs. Batman
Marvel vs. DC

Have at it!

[Rizor]

Originally Posted by wormraper

I disagree. I've pretty much LOVED almost every movie he's directed... Nolan on the other hand. it's a 50/50 thing

You've loved almost every one of the two movies Whedon's directed?

I'd love more extras on the Nolan Batman films, but I think what we've gotten is pretty solid. Batman Begins has a great collection of informative featurettes. TDK's extras are solid, even though they tended to focus more on the technical side of things. The extras announced for TDKR sounds pretty good so far. I can't say I care about a commentary. I love a good one, but if he has no desire to record one, better nothing than a bad one.

[BluProofie]

Originally Posted by srinivas1015

but I don't understand the blind Nolan worship.

It's because people like Jumpman are so devoid of "deep" storytelling that they think anything even remotely resembling a complex story must be good. Sometimes big and overcomplicated isn't better...it's just big and overcomplicated.

[srinivas1015]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Oh boy, this thread will now hit 1000 posts in about 14 minutes!

Whedon vs. Nolan
Avengers vs. Batman
Marvel vs. DC

Have at it!

Might as well. The blu-ray is far away and we don't have much to discuss .

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by wormraper

Bay is an ADD crack ***** when it comes to editing. man is a complete FAILURE at visuals. pretty much he pops in a crap load of CGI and a camera man who's drunk off his @ss and calls it a day.

Yeah, no he isn't. And Bay is the last guy that goes straight CG. See his Transformers trilogy. Take out the robots and he shot the majority of those films on location. And you can tell in comparison with Avengers.

The end battle of that film, as good as it was, was completely shot mostly on set. Bay would've shot 90% of that live action and we would've noticed. It would've looked even more seamless.

You can not knock Bay on the visual side. You just can't. The dude is a master craftsman on that end.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Oh boy, this thread will now hit 1000 posts in about 14 minutes!

Whedon vs. Nolan
Avengers vs. Batman
Marvel vs. DC

Have at it!

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Wow. Just wow.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by BluProofie

It's because people like Jumpman are so devoid of "deep" storytelling that they think anything resembling a complex story must be good. Sometimes big and overcomplicated isn't better...it's just big and overcomplicated.

Dude, you don't know me.

[neoz]

Originally Posted by Aragorn84

I think I picked the wrong time to stumble into this thread.

hahaha I know.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Yeah, no he isn't. And Bay is the last guy that goes straight CG. See his Transformers trilogy. Take out the robots and he shot the majority of those films on location. And you can tell in comparison with Avengers.

The end battle of that film, as good as it was, was completely shot mostly on set. Bay would've shot 90% of that live action and we would've noticed. It would've looked even more seamless.

You can not knock Bay on the visual side. You just can't. The dude is a master craftsman on that end.

actually you CAN.. it's done all the time... I think someone needs to switch his kool-aid mixture